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Dragon78 wrote:I hope kineticist, swashbuckler, monk/UC monk, rogue/UC rogue, hunter, summoner, and druid get archetypes
I hope there will be a dragon mystery for oracles.
It is, at this point, impossible to fit in archetypes for all the Pathfinder classes into a Player Companion, or at least it is if we put *anything* else in. So some of the classes you mention get archetypes, but certainly not all of them
Some of the classes that don't get archetypes get other class-specific or class-focused new rules elements.
And there are some options available to any class.
I'm really happy with what we've done, but it's just not possible to cover everyone's list of 8 preferred classes.
That's fine. Just make sure that you cover my eight favorite classes. ;)

Fourshadow |

doc the grey wrote:anyone know if there has been talk of some draconic medium spirits appearing in this one? I have a player interested to know.No draconic smalls, larges, or SuperSizes?
You're killing me Smalls!
While we are on pet projects; any draconic spells/masterpieces for the Bard?

Wei Ji the Learner |

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*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*
No promises on linnorm archetypes.
The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.
You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)

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Hmm, a Medium archetype that channels the power of monsters would be interesting. Maybe something like Genie or Lich for Archmage, Archon or Troll for Champion, Golem or Treant for Guardian, Angel or Unicorn for Hierophant, Dragon or Ghost for Marshal, and Fey or Succubus for Trickster?
I'd rather it be just an option rather than locked to an archetype. As it stands the spirit ability of mediums is already pretty modular and well balanced against itself since you can't really stack them or benefit from more than one a day. The minute you start limiting the list we run the risk of optimizing out other options that don't stack up or people just never using one option outright. Besides, I'm more down to see mediums who can sit on the throne of a king for his political acumen one day, the cave of a great dragon to fly and spew fire the next, and then on the grave of a vampire lord in Geb at last to gain his deathly sustenances that next Tuesday. Also it lets me as a GM surprise a little more with what might show up at a locus point ^-^.

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No promises on linnorm archetypes.The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.
You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)
So far the fact it appears 25 times is a good sign in my book Mister Stephens.

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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:So far the fact it appears 25 times is a good sign in my book Mister Stephens.
No promises on linnorm archetypes.The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.
You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)
I concur.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*No promises on linnorm archetypes.
The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.
You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)
Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.
I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.

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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:Thomas Seitz wrote:*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*No promises on linnorm archetypes.
The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.
You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)
Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.
I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.
Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.

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EltonJ wrote:Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:Thomas Seitz wrote:*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*No promises on linnorm archetypes.
The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.
You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)
Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.
I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.
It would be awesome, don't you think?

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Rysky wrote:It would be awesome, don't you think?EltonJ wrote:Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:Thomas Seitz wrote:*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*No promises on linnorm archetypes.
The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.
You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)
Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.
I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.
Yus.

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... so I'm reading this correctly right? We're gonna get dragon mounts. You're not just playing tricks on me are you because if you are Owen I'll never forgive you.
"drakes and lesser dragons to serve as... " "flying mounts."
Yes, there is really an option for drakes and/or lesser dragons, that can result in having one as a flying mount.
But obviously, it's not just bolting flying dragons onto any character of any level. :)
I hope you all like what we've done once the book it out.

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FedoraFerret wrote:... so I'm reading this correctly right? We're gonna get dragon mounts. You're not just playing tricks on me are you because if you are Owen I'll never forgive you."drakes and lesser dragons to serve as... " "flying mounts."
Yes, there is really an option for drakes and/or lesser dragons, that can result in having one as a flying mount.
But obviously, it's not just bolting flying dragons onto any character of any level. :)I hope you all like what we've done once the book it out.
*sadly puts bolt gun away*

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EltonJ wrote:Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:Thomas Seitz wrote:*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*No promises on linnorm archetypes.
The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.
You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)
Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.
I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.
What about linnorms that shed their human form to become linnorms?

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Rysky wrote:What about linnorms that shed their human form to become linnorms?EltonJ wrote:Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:Thomas Seitz wrote:*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*No promises on linnorm archetypes.
The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.
You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)
Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.
I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.
Linnorm Disciple Prestige Class!!!
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LINNORM CORRUPTION!!!!

EltonJ |

That wasn't what I was "Oh Dear"ing about. There are far more interesting dragons than Linnorms. Like the Surrush, or the Lambton Wyrm. Or perhaps just maybe your typical red dragon that likes to eat adventurers for lunch, even though the Dragon Surgeon General says that eating Adventurers is generally bad for his health.
And don't get me started on Teenaged dragons.