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Valeros's ego is at work, I see...
I can almost see why the artist was chosen for this, this style probably does seem like a good fit for deformed woods and monsters like goblins and bugbears, but, for me, it's a big problem when it's extended to the main characters as well. It actually lessens the impact of seeing a horde of deranged goblins when the humans/elf/dwarf basically look like slightly deformed monsters themselves.That's a fair point.
I picked up issues 1 & 2 yesterday at the FLGS. I find the artwork problematic, too. The heroes' depictions are too extreme; in some panels, Valeros looked like a werewolf instead of a human. That said, the storyline is engaging and I really like the mini battle maps and scenarios so I'll stick with the comics and hope that the art improves soon.
Regards,
V
Frankly I'm surprised noone has complained about the nudity yet...theres always one you know.
I wonder if the depictions of our heroes were supposed to be as the Gobbo's saw them?
I wonder if the depictions of our heroes were supposed to be as the Gobbo's saw them?
Now, that would be interesting if it were restricted only to the panels where the heroes and gobbos were interacting.
Regards,
V
Doh, unavailable... now BEFORE I pick another cover are these going to have more made?
Bugger.
Hahah :)
I guess it's a case of "Snooze = Lose" :p
I don't have a problem with the art - you can't expect Wayne Reynolds for every panel. Each issue would take a year to put out and probably cost $50.
Yes there is a little manga-ishness to some of the art work but its not excessive. I find the combat and lighting and mood set by the artist to be rendered excellently.
I love the story so far plus the bonus stuff.
It looks good on my old iPad.
My only complaints so far is the delay with this issue and there is not more.
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Will there be a PDF release, since they've sold out?Well, technically, we've only sold out of he Paizo.com exclusive cover. We have copies of the regular covers available. The comic s the same inside with just the cover art being different.
Lisa
An even better option as the digital release doesn't have a fold out poster/map! ;)
Will there be a PDF release, since they've sold out?Well, technically, we've only sold out of he Paizo.com exclusive cover. We have copies of the regular covers available. The comic s the same inside with just the cover art being different.
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Any word on a limited release poster print of the cover like issue 1? Is that going to be a regular thing?
I don't have a problem with the art - you can't expect Wayne Reynolds for every panel. Each issue would take a year to put out and probably cost $50.
There are numerous comic book artists who manage to produce much higher quality art than this (in my estimation at least) for monthly titles, and they sell for the same cover price.
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I don't have a problem with the art - you can't expect Wayne Reynolds for every panel. Each issue would take a year to put out and probably cost $50.There are numerous comic book artists who manage to produce much higher quality art than this (in my estimation at least) for monthly titles, and they sell for the same cover price.
It's honestly the style you don't like. His art is technically fine. His storytelling panel to panel, excellent.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Huerta's style, either, but he's definitely good at it.
It's honestly the style you don't like. His art is technically fine. His storytelling panel to panel, excellent.I don't have a problem with the art - you can't expect Wayne Reynolds for every panel. Each issue would take a year to put out and probably cost $50.There are numerous comic book artists who manage to produce much higher quality art than this (in my estimation at least) for monthly titles, and they sell for the same cover price.
I got kind of sidetracked by my distaste for the style, I was, however, just trying to make the point that while you might not get Reynolds quality, you could certainly find something much closer to his style that could be delivered in just as timely (if not more so) a manner.
I will disagree, while an individual panel might be technically fine within the style, the character's not staying on model is a major problem in serialized art, as far as I'm concerned that's not a matter of style, that's just bad art.
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It's honestly the style you don't like. His art is technically fine. His storytelling panel to panel, excellent.I don't have a problem with the art - you can't expect Wayne Reynolds for every panel. Each issue would take a year to put out and probably cost $50.There are numerous comic book artists who manage to produce much higher quality art than this (in my estimation at least) for monthly titles, and they sell for the same cover price.I got kind of sidetracked by my distaste for the style, I was, however, just trying to make the point that while you might not get Reynolds quality, you could certainly find something much closer to his style that could be delivered in just as timely (if not more so) a manner.
I will disagree, while an individual panel might be technically fine within the style, the character's not staying on model is a major problem in serialized art, as far as I'm concerned that's not a matter of style, that's just bad art.
Jack Kirby never gave a lot of credit to staying on model, and rather focused on the energy and emotion of the page. The defense rests its case.
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Any word on a limited release poster print of the cover like issue 1? Is that going to be a regular thing?Will there be a PDF release, since they've sold out?Well, technically, we've only sold out of he Paizo.com exclusive cover. We have copies of the regular covers available. The comic s the same inside with just the cover art being different.
Lisa
We didn't make that print—it was something Tyler did for Gen Con, and we brought back the rest to sell for him after the show. Short answer: it's up to Tyler.
Well bugger, looks like my subscription will start with #3 then
Any word on a limited release poster print of the cover like issue 1? Is that going to be a regular thing?We didn't make that print—it was something Tyler did for Gen Con, and we brought back the rest to sell for him after the show. Short answer: it's up to Tyler.
Ah, I see. Thanks.
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It's honestly the style you don't like. His art is technically fine. His storytelling panel to panel, excellent.I don't have a problem with the art - you can't expect Wayne Reynolds for every panel. Each issue would take a year to put out and probably cost $50.There are numerous comic book artists who manage to produce much higher quality art than this (in my estimation at least) for monthly titles, and they sell for the same cover price.
I agree. Keith Giffen had a very hard style like this in the Legion of Super Heroes for a long while, and I thought it was excellent. But in this setting it doesn't fit, in my opinion. I don't expect wayne reynolds in every panel (just the covers! ha) but something more like the established style would be more appreciated.
Yeah, chalk me up as a hate for the artwork on the iconics, but I think it's OK for rest of it. And actually, only Ezren and Valeros are really obscenely bad, IMO. To me they look like Yu-Gi-Oh drawn by Bill Sienkiewicz. Which would probably be enough to make me buy Yu-Gi-Oh, but is not how I like Pathfinder to look.
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We're working with Dynamite on a poster and maybe even something cooler based on this image. Stay tuned.
I hear you guys on the art (on both sides of it). I knew Andrew's style would be somewhat controversial, but of the artists presented to us by Dynamite, he had by far the most energetic and exciting visual style. I'm currently approving pages from deep into the 4th issue, and I am pretty certain that Andrew's art over the next few issues will make believers out of some skeptics.
That said, we're in the comics game for the long haul, and there will be other artists along the way. Heck, based on some conversations I had last weekend at NYCC, there may even be additional series somewhere down the road.
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I hear you guys on the art (on both sides of it). I knew Andrew's style would be somewhat controversial, but of the artists presented to us by Dynamite, he had by far the most energetic and exciting visual style. I'm currently approving pages from deep into the 4th issue, and I am pretty certain that Andrew's art over the next few issues will make believers out of some skeptics.
One thing I learned as a comic book fan is that it is impossible to please everyone with any art style or artist. You really learn this if you're a Bill Sienkiewicz or Darwyn Cooke fan!
(speaking of artists I dream of seeing do some iconics art(Art Adams and especially Massimilliano Frezzato too!)
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We're working with Dynamite on a poster and maybe even something cooler based on this image. Stay tuned.
I hear you guys on the art (on both sides of it). I knew Andrew's style would be somewhat controversial, but of the artists presented to us by Dynamite, he had by far the most energetic and exciting visual style. I'm currently approving pages from deep into the 4th issue, and I am pretty certain that Andrew's art over the next few issues will make believers out of some skeptics.
That said, we're in the comics game for the long haul, and there will be other artists along the way. Heck, based on some conversations I had last weekend at NYCC, there may even be additional series somewhere down the road.
Good news all around, especially that of more series from Dynamite! I'd have some favorites in mind. I'm glad sales is of a level that suggests more comics support!
Heck, based on some conversations I had last weekend at NYCC, there may even be additional series somewhere down the road.
Fantastic. :)