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Does the schrodinger Wizard (sorry Kthulhu, wizurd) have a schrodinger cat as a familiar?


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Roan wrote:

I'm enjoying this thread, especially the rapid-response nature of it. Good way to spend a Friday afternoon in rainy Washington State. Wish I had some popcorn :).

Reading it though I feel I can sum up some tactics and counter-tactics. It's my personal belief that mythic is almost always stronger than non-mythic. So that being said in my mind the fighter has already won. I’ll explain why below.

Point-by-point counter begins now:
1: Explosive runes tactic/: Ruined by spell immunity unless you have heightened the explosive runes to a higher level. You would need to heighten them to 9th level if the fighter knew about this ahead of time and got a hold of a scroll of greater spell immunity.

2: Time-Stop Shenanigans: A contingency spell can help with these shenanigans. The contingency is "If someone I can see casts Time Stop then I dimension door to somewhere else." Or go invisible. Or whatever. It costs some money to set-up, unless you have what I am about to describe.

3: Geas/Quest: Undone by Unbreakable Fighter 20.

All other points can probably be countered by the following:

Some folks might ask "Roan, why do you think mythic will always trump non-mythic?" and my response would be "Divine Source." The mythic ability you can pick up at Tier 3, 6 and 9 gives you spells effectively. You pick two domains the first time you take it and then 1 domain and two subdomains each time after and can cast one spell of each level per day as a spell-like ability. Remember, spell-likes have no components? And Miracle, Wish, Limited Wish, Time Stop, and Explosive Runes are domain spells you can access. In short all those cool things the wizard can do (especially tactics 1-3 listed above) said fighter can pull of with Divine Source. Sure, it's only once per day, but you don't have to pay gold for them, ever. Given enough time said fighter (or any class really) can do WHATEVER THEY WANT BECAUSE WISH DOESN'T COST MONeY. You want to turn it up to 11? Then take the feat Spell Lore and...

I am just throwing a random idea here. Could the demigod fighter, and all his unlimited wishes, wish to be immune to one spell? Like, to be immune to the effects of the explosive runes?


I think that no one asked the right question yet.

So, do they need to fight?

Could not they settle their dispute in a nice and neutral place, while eating something nice and exotic? Probably in another plane or world?

Imagine! Both of them sitting in a good-aligned plane, drinking a celestial tea and discussing things like reasonable adults. Am I asking too much?

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I think I am.


The one who wins is the one who sees that no one will concede victory (ever) and leaves to do something productive. ;)


Luthorne wrote:
Hmm, I was thinking, a common thread with hypnotism is having someone do something they didn't know they could do, so, what about having the mesmerist be able to either grant a scaling bonus on skill checks, or being able to implant a combat feat temporarily? I'm thinking something like the brawler's martial versatility, but probably a bit more limited, since he'd be capable of giving one to an ally. Might be a bit much, but thought it was worth suggesting...

I think the tricks could be changed to something like that. It makes sense, and we could even use the idea of the hypnotic stare on allies to implant those tricks.

I am just tossing some random ideas here.


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I am concerned that people are concerned.

Should we be making this much fuss? The game did not stoped being fun, and even with more classes I do not think it will.


A class based around deception, guile and mind tricks?

THAT IS MINDBLOWING! (Pun intended)

I will give some opinions, after all, this is a playtest.

Tricks: I really like those. But having to touch your friends to implant the tricks on them in the middle of the combat is a huge problem, also having to spend a standard action to implant ONE trick. I would suggest a move action to implant tricks at a distance, or stronger tricks so that it be worth losing your standard action.

Hypnotic Stare and Bold stare: I can begin to mindrape people only by looking at them? Can I get a Hell Yes? This is really cool, and to be able to do this and cast mind spells on constructs and undeads is great. No complaints about this.

Towering Ego: The ability is great, and the flavor is top notch. I can believe a mesmerist, something like Patrick Jane, not being affect by spells because of the biggest organ in his body, i.e his ego.

Mental Potency: Only 1 more HD? Really? This is not going to make a lot of difference. This is a class that inhales awesome and exhales debuffs. It should be something like the awesome display ability from the Oracle's Heaven Mystery:

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Awesome Display (Su): Your phantasmagoric displays accurately model the mysteries of the night sky, dumbfounding all who behold them. Each creature affected by your illusion (pattern) spells is treated as if its total number of Hit Dice were equal to its number of Hit Dice minus your Charisma modifier (if positive).

Glib Tongue: I am in love with this feature. I will never speak the truth now, and nobody will know! I just have one doubt, is this supposed to be a lv 9 feature, or lv 12?

Like aceDiamond said, some mechanics could use a overhaul.

I will give my feedback of the other abilities other time, but I hope this is useful to any of you.


"If I wanted a meat this tough, I WOULD HAVE HIRED A MEDUSA!"

"This dish is so bad, that a paladin tried to smite it!"

"What are you doing? Even a follower of Urgathoa would not eat this shit!"


Greetings people of the board!

So,my friend is DMing an adventure about a wedding between a princess from a scheming kingdom, and a minotaur general from a militaristic minotaur-ruled, Rome-alike, kingdom.

Weird setting aside, my character will be the Master Chef in this wedding, and it is his responsability to supervise the others chefs. My character will be an alchemist who will behave like the Gordon Ramsay Meme, insulting almost everything the NPCs cooks do. And to make it funnier, I would like help coming up with funny or unusual insults using the pathfinder rules or setting.

Something along those lines: "This chicken is so raw, that a Wizard tried to make it his familiar!"

"This meat is so cooked, that it put the barbarian into a rage!"

"This soup is so bad, that a cleric would have to cast purify food to eat it!"

Anyone else have a funny idea?

-Roxx