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Would it be possible for there to be a boon added to do retraining but no gear changes? The current retrain boons seem excessive, if not punitive, to a character who does not want to change gear. Alternatively, could the existing rebuild boons have language added that the wealth is not changed if no gear is being changed? I think that having easier access to these things would be beneficial both to players wanting to have old characters take advantage of new boosts, as well as old and new PC's who may just want to make non-gear changes that would take a long time to complete via retraining.

Yes, please!

My Gnome Champion already suffered in the damage-dealing department, so having his weapon nerfed down a die size really hurts.

Being able to just Retrain his Ability Boosts would help a lot.

When I built my 08 Cha Champion, I figured I was building against type, but he's now Level 10 and I've encountered plenty of other similar Champions since.

(Gnome w/ Flickmace, so I needed the Str bump)

Difference is mine has an 18 Wis, and the Cleric Archetype, and I haven't encountered anyone else like that yet. Expert Divine proficiency 3 levels early has been nice.

It's certainly something that could be streamlined for 3E.

Probably too much editing required for Errata.

Papa Svirf wrote:

HumbleGamer wrote:

Not sure domain initiate gives you a second focus point ( like hymn of healing and similar spells).

It does for Champions.

Domain Initiate grants you a focus pool of 1 Focus Point, and, "If you have multiple abilities that give you a focus pool, each one adds 1 Focus Point to your pool".

You're not quoting the whole section there:

Quote:

Focus Points from Multiple Sources

It’s possible, especially through archetypes, to gain focus spells and Focus Points from more than one source. If this happens, you have just one focus pool, adding all the Focus Points together to determine the total size of your pool. (Remember that the maximum number of Focus Points a pool can have is 3.) If you have multiple abilities that give you a focus pool, each one adds 1 Focus Point to your pool. For instance, if you were a cleric with the Domain Initiate feat, you would have a pool with 1 Focus Point. Let’s say you then took the champion multiclass archetype and the Healing Touch feat. Normally, this feat would give you a focus pool. Since you already have one, it instead increases your existing pool’s capacity by 1.

What is meant by "more than one source" is not very clearly defined, but it's "especially through archetypes" and the example given is done through multiclassing.

And the example given includes the very feat I mentioned ^_^

If taking any feat with another focus spell always gave you an extra focus point, the "especially through archetypes" sentence doesn't make any sense.

The Focus Spell is irrelevant. Domain Initiate actually gives you a Focus Pool.

Also, some feats specify they give you an extra focus point, others don't; if a new feat always gave you a new focus point that wouldn't make sense either.

Exactly. Again, it works this way for Champions, multiclassing into Cleric, and taking Domain Initiate, because of the rules on Focus Pools I quoted.

I never said anything about a general rule that learning a new Focus Spell gives you more Focus Points.

A familiar can help with that.

(Deep Gnome with a Cave Gecko, in my case)

Not sure domain initiate gives you a second focus point ( like hymn of healing and similar spells).

It does for Champions.

Domain Initiate grants you a focus pool of 1 Focus Point, and, "If you have multiple abilities that give you a focus pool, each one adds 1 Focus Point to your pool".

To help with ranged, I gave my Champion the Cleric Archetype, and took Domain Initiate (Earth). Divine Lance is a decent enough ranged option, but Hurtling Stone has been fun to surprise enemies with. Domain Initiate gives you a second Focus Point, so it's not just a once-per-combat trick, and your Divine spell attack increases to Expert at 9th, so it's a far better option than using any ranged weapon when your Dex is only 10 (not to mention the lack of hands required).

My post was meant for people reading this thread who might not know otherwise. Wasn't addressing you, and obviously it doesn't bother me. But for someone who's looking for a quick guide on building their first character, it's a rules item that's easy to overlook.

I do love my Gnome Champion and his Flickmace!

The original post suggests Full Plate for the Throwing & Longbow Champion, but at 14 Str you're going to be hurting with ACP and –10 Speed (plus the Bulk gets cumbersome quick).

the Roll 20 sheet seems to not like it.

You can set each spell to have different ability modifiers. Since you won't have too many spells programmed for your Archetype, it shouldn't be much work.

My Champion/Cleric has a Charisma of 08 but a Wisdom of 18 so his Divine spell DCs are 5 apart depending on which spell he's using ^_^

So for someone using the Vigilant Seal's Curse Breaker Boon, if I fail the initial check, what do I do with the remaining 6 days?

Earn Income?

"A bear? Well. This was to be unexpected."

The stately, cranky, elderly gnome expends a couple strides reaching the ursine before raising his most sacred pick for a single blow:

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (20) + 8 = 28
Crit, Fatal, Piercing: 3d10 + 8 ⇒ (5, 10, 5) + 8 = 28

And if a Retributive Strike presents itself:

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (18) + 8 = 26
Piercing: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (6) + 4 = 10
Or fatal if that crits:
Piercing: 3d10 + 8 ⇒ (3, 7, 2) + 8 = 20

Crowd:

Perception (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (6) + 7 = 13

"This one cannot see the citizens through the stampede."

Wind:

Athletics (T): 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (20) + 8 = 28
Nature (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (7) + 7 = 14
Society (T): 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (13) + 3 = 16
Athletics (T): 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (16) + 8 = 24
Nature (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (4) + 7 = 11

"The creatures of the earth know how to handle wind. We avoid it by staying below ground."

Lightning:

Reflex: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (11) + 4 = 15 (+3 if Bulwark applies)

"We are still working on how to avoid lightning."

In the twenty minutes it took Garad to Treat Wounds, Papa Svirf spends his time refocusing and sharing stories of mining the gems of the deep.

Garad heals 12 hit points.

"The dwarf is to be commended for his martial skill. Now, this one thinks the human with the glowing eyes would appreciate coordinating."

Papa Svirf moves so that Garad may flank, and then bashes once, before again raising his shield.

Shield Boss: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (12) + 8 = 20
Bludgeoning: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5

The gnome sighs heavily when his most sacred of weapons fails to do its job.

"If these beasties are undead, then surely the light of Sairazul will banish their darkness!"

Divine Lance : 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (20) + 7 = 27 (targeting Cyan)
Crit, Good: 2d4 + 6 ⇒ (4, 1) + 6 = 11

After which he once again raises his trusty shield; will block if hit, or Ranged Reprisal otherwise:

Shield Boss: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12
Bludgeoning: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (6) + 4 = 10

As the yellow-stained skeleton bites at Fairmount, Papa Svirf reflexively steps forward and strikes.

Fairmount takes 4 less damage, which I believe leaves them standing.

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (17) + 8 = 25
Piercing: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (3) + 4 = 7
Or fatal if that crits:
Piercing: 3d10 + 8 ⇒ (4, 4, 5) + 8 = 21

He then Strikes once more, raises his shield, and touches Fairmount to heal some of the injuries (lay on hands heals 6 hp)

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (6) + 8 = 14
Piercing: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5

Will shield block if attacked, or Retributive Strike again if available:

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (19) + 8 = 27
Piercing: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6
Or fatal if that crits:
Piercing: 3d10 + 8 ⇒ (10, 4, 4) + 8 = 26

The gnome nods, as though this were not a surprise.

"We are fortunate to have the one who smells of moss and old books to sweep away these beasties made of dust and ash."

Defending for my Exploration Activity.

The gnome strokes his fantastic beard.

"Yes, the conversing is best left to the surface dwellers. This one will observe."

Oh. Lol. Just saw this =P

Papa Svirf, do you that I take care of your wounds?

"The dwarf is kind and good. The people of the earth support each other. This one will accept your generosity."

First, the gnome tends to his scratches:

Treat Wounds, DC 15: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (7) + 7 = 14

Then, he begins the toil:

Crafting/Engineering Lore: Nope

Perception (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (14) + 7 = 21

Occultism: Nope

Religion (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (19) + 7 = 26

Society (T): 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (3) + 3 = 6

Nature (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (2) + 7 = 9

Society (T): 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (9) + 3 = 12

Medicine (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (16) + 7 = 23

"This beastie is quite the amalgam of abilities."

The gnome Steps forward to press the assault, and aims to Strike at the giant's central eye when it next bends down in the cramped tunnel.

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (12) + 8 = 20
Piercing: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 4 = 8

He then raises his shield, and will once again block if attacked, or strike out if an ally is targeted:

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16
Piercing: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5

"This one is happy where everyone is."

The fantastically bearded gnome swings his sacred mining pick twice at the flanked giant, and then raises his shield.

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (5) + 8 = 13
Piercing: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 4 = 8 (vs Flat-Footed)

Pick: 1d20 + 8 - 5 ⇒ (8) + 8 - 5 = 11
Piercing: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 4 = 8 (vs Flat-Footed)

Will Shield Block if attacked, otherwise Step Up and Retributive Strike:

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (18) + 8 = 26
Piercing: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6

Religion (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (2) + 7 = 9

"This one knows not what these creatures are. Best to take up defense."

◈ Recall Knowledge
◈ Step
◈ Raise Shield

If I'm attacked first, then Shield Block; otherwise, Retributive Strike/Ranged Reprisal on Ally within reach

Upon hearing that you aren't here to find Dreng, Yiddlepode grimaces.

“As I suspected.”

The gnome grumbles dourly again, "This one has never met the Dreng. We are told he is capable, in case these inky figures accosted him. We are to proceed helping our allies, as the matter of your new home is the imperative."

"Have you worked with them? How do they fare in the field?”

"This one has worked with a chatty kobold. Always strategizing. As though the world were a completed puzzle that needed to be dismantled. Very useful in dismantling a creature with a bounty on its head."

"Tell me, what is your mission?”

Papa Svirf grumbles a bit, but answers directly, "Your tribe is our ally, and this one has no reason to lie. We are to see your new home, since the Dreng is not to be found. And we are curious about a recent fight you observed. Tell us about it. The one between shapeshifters."

Shield and Pick in hand; Exploration Activity will be to Defend (+2 AC)

Religion (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (14) + 7 = 21

Society (T): 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (7) + 3 = 10

The gnome idly weaves a new string of colorful beads into his fantastic beard.

"A clockwork drill, you say? Sounds like a gnomish invention. And this one admits, kobolds are usually no friends to gnomes. Still. If this Dreng trusts them, they must be trustworthy. What do we know about this Dreng? Where does he want to relocate the ugly little lizards?"

Next person to post gets a bonus Hero Point!

Signing in for 2-05: Balancing the Scales

PLAYER: Nefreet
CHARACTER: Papa Svirf
PFS ID#: 66548-2009
Faction: Vigilant Seal

Earn Income, Mining Lore (E), DC 14: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (7) + 5 = 12 (8 copper)

Swords Consumable: Silversheen

Purchasing a new Steel Shield for this scenario.

Reflex, Bulwark: 1d20 + 4 + 3 ⇒ (11) + 4 + 3 = 18

"Keep low to the ground. Trust the ways of the deep gnomes."

Survival, Terrain Expertise: 1d20 + 7 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 7 + 1 = 14

Reroll, Promotional Vestments: 1d20 + 7 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (16) + 7 + 1 + 1 = 25

Reflex, Bulwark: 1d20 + 4 + 3 ⇒ (19) + 4 + 3 = 26

Oh, sure, NOW the dice roller wants to cooperate >.>

Medicine (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (19) + 7 = 26

"This one is reminded of the terrible things that Derro do to those they capture. Experiments. Surgeries. Exposures. Pay attention this time, Goblin."

"Understandable, given how much Goblins have been hunted."

Pssstt, Papa Svirf and Fin-thir. Discreet we said.

"This one trusted the elf's footsteps, forgetting they were not laid in a forest."

Stealth (U): 1d20 + 0 ⇒ (9) + 0 = 9

The gnome grabs his oversized sword, anticipating an encounter, but it clangs loudly against the cavern wall.

Assuming Gedrim's Success + Fin-thir's Crit Success = 3 Successes...

Papa Svirf begins to skirt around the skeletal incursion.

Stealth (U): 1d20 + 0 ⇒ (13) + 0 = 13

...but he can't help but wonder aloud, "Why did these things not accost us on our way down?"

I wonder if it's a website glitch - does anyone see post #4601?

"A gem that guides the miner. Home will never believe it!"

Nature (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (3) + 7 = 10

But apparently the gnome is so excited at the prospect of a talking gem that he ignores the ceiling literally collapsing around them.

"It makes sense for this one to collect all of the gems."

Nature (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (6) + 7 = 13

"Goddess Sairazul, for who it is Anathema to collapse an earthen structure on a creature, take pity on us."

Papa Svirf steps up to the base of the vines, pick in hand.

"This one has spent five centuries digging gems out of undesirable rough. Gems always survive. Rough... Not so much. Does Amkha care what happens to rough?"

"This one is a miner. With shovel and pick. Amkha can be dug out."

"This one does not give a name, but Amkha may use 'Papa' in their address. Why choose Amkha? Does it have meaning in another tongue?"

The gnome would like to recall what this could possibly be...

Recall Knowledge: 1d20 ⇒ 15 (Underground Lore +5, Nature +7, Religion +7, Society +3)

"This one stands back as well."

Are we all healed? If not, Papa can Lay on Hands 6hp/10min.

Ah. Well then. I'll take the easy one and call it a day ^_^

"The shard made of flint goes next."

Religion (T): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (19) + 7 = 26

I am, however, terrible at puzzles =\

As Farryn leaves the first set of runes, Papa Svirf opens his eyes and grunts...

Society (T): 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (17) + 3 = 20

"You missed somethin' there."

So I think I need to Crit succeed to not drop...

Reflex, Bulwark: 1d20 + 4 + 3 ⇒ (3) + 4 + 3 = 10

...and I think that Crit fails =(

The gnome collapses once again, grumbling all the while.

Reflex, Bulwark: 1d20 + 4 + 3 ⇒ (18) + 4 + 3 = 25

"The troubles this one toils through."

Papa Svirf strides into a flank with Jasariel and strikes twice...

Bastard Sword: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12 (vs flat-footed?)
2H, Slashing: 1d12 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6

Bastard Sword: 1d20 + 8 - 5 ⇒ (20) + 8 - 5 = 23 (vs flat-footed?)
Crit, 2H, Slashing: 2d12 + 8 ⇒ (8, 7) + 8 = 23

And will offer up a Retributive Strike if Jasariel is hit...

Bastard Sword: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16 (vs flat-footed?)
2H, Slashing: 1d12 + 4 ⇒ (10) + 4 = 14

"The fingers are beginning to look more decrepit."

Papa Svirf swings twice and then takes a Guarded Step back.

Bastard Sword: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15
2H, Slashing: 1d12 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5

Bastard Sword: 1d20 + 8 - 5 ⇒ (17) + 8 - 5 = 20
2H, Slashing: 1d12 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5

And if Retributive Strike somehow becomes available this round:

Bastard Sword: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (2) + 8 = 10
2H, Slashing: 1d12 + 4 ⇒ (9) + 4 = 13

The gnome simply grunts, stands, draws his oversized sword and strikes.

Bastard Sword: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (3) + 8 = 11
2H, Slashing: 1d12 + 4 ⇒ (9) + 4 = 13

(since you indicated that you intended to Shield Block).

Ayup. I think what I'm going to start doing is just buying a new shield at the beginning of every scenario, using it until it gets destroyed, and then two-handing the bastard sword afterwards.

Stabilize?: 1d20 ⇒ 16

The 31 doesn't Crit; Papa Svirf's default Exploration activity is to Defend. So I think I'm still up, with 28 damage.

"This beastie is impressive, but I am sure the one who smells of moss and books will joke about the appendage."

Papa Svirf follows up the giant's strike with one of his own...

Pick: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (20) + 8 = 28
Ooooo I've never crit with a fatal weapon before =D
Piercing: 3d10 + 8 ⇒ (6, 8, 1) + 8 = 23

...and then heals 6 hit points from a Lay on Hands, before Raising his Shield yet again.

Save Reaction to Shield Block

EDIT: so with Farryn's healing that should put me down to just 11 damage.

"The beastie was sickening. The Goblin is sick. This one is healing."

Papa Svirf will Lay on Hands on Okh (healing 6 hp), and then, if there's time, will break out some gnomish tools and suturing thread and tend to the remaining wounds.

Treat Wounds, DC 15: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (9) + 7 = 16
Healed for: 2d8 ⇒ (8, 4) = 12

"The Goblin is healed."