Do the Outer Planes exist in Starfinder?
'Cause if so, that big purple mouth is clearly the entrance to a Styxian log-flume ride straight to Abaddon...
Daemonic mountain eels have emerged from the Styx to spread that river's taint onto the dry land of this Material World planet.
Since the Styxmouth opened (about 40 years ago), the Hanakan and Verthani on the planet have incorporated Abaddon's foul values into every aspect of their culture/s. The two species meet in unholy crystal atheneums where "Accords of Betrayal" - damaging to *both* parties - are painstakingly devised.
The only functioning magic/technology on the planet now comes from devices with living hallajins imprisoned in the core.
Needless to say, the more excruciating the pain the hallajin endures, the more powerful the "battery."
[I know the proper adjective is 'StyGian' - but Charon orders me to spread destruction and fear, so...]
I for one will deffo be buying from *both* product lines at least initially. I may drop off on Starfinder after awhile, as I'm way more of a fantasy guy, but SF can count on me buying *at least* its first AP, in full. And if I go nuttsballs for Starfinder, I'll follow it to AP #2 and beyond... While still buying as much Pathfinder as I currently do.
I.e. - I will be an exemplar of Vic's Situation 3, above. Overlap.
Interesting sidenote?: i'm one of those happy Paizo customers (I'm sure there's more than just me) who doesn't even *play* RPGs anymore. I just love reading the good words and ogling the pretty pictures. I buy Paizo stuff purely to read (and gawk at).
As to Ameeko vs. Amayko -
I now know another Mariko, the wonderful YA writer Mariko Tamaki, and she uses "muh-REE-koh" too come to think of it. Though I'm sure when either Mariko's in Japan, they'd totally roll with being addressed as "mah-ree-koh."
I think the other thing people tend to forget in discussions of correct pronunciation is how vastly different words are pronounced WITHIN THE SAME LANGUAGE in the real world.
"a-luu-MIN-ee-uhm" versus "uh-LOO-min-uhm" is just one obvious example, but even within the States alone the way vowels, especially, are voiced can vary dramatically. And then there are all the different regional accents in England, let alone Ireland, Scotland and Wales. And Australia. And New Zealand. And Canada. And the Caribbean. And what about countries like Nigeria? Etc etc etc... Even within one lifetime some styles of pronunciation die out (or arise). No one uses the old Hollywood "Mid-Atlantic" accent anymore, for instance. And my (heavily American) sense of things is that the precise accent of Queen Elizabeth and pre-50s BBC radio announcers has basically given up the ghost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBRP-o6Q85s
I'm sure it's been said on boards before, by many others, but one of my least fave Paizo names is The Darklands. It's so not evocative enough, imho. Also not very specific. I have to say, "Underdark" was really a good coinage. (Though obvi Paizo couldn't just rip that name off.) "Underdark" was mysterious and broody and menacing, in part because "Underdark" only barely works as a legitimate formation in English (at the very least, it's a an *unusual* formation - 'dark' without a 'the' in front of it is an adjective) so right off the bat, for English speakers, just grammatically the name conjures up "everything is going to be VERY different down there." * I love it. As one of my fave regions in any campaign setting, I wish Paizo's name for it was more unsettling & unique. (This is the not even a ding against Paizo because 1. I'm a total fanboi AND 2. I don't EXPECT to like everything in a setting, just like I don't expect everything in the real world to always be named or described with my sense of appropriate drama & poetry.)
I think it's the "lands" part of "Darklands" that really dulls the word. "Lands" to me implies something knowable, mappable. Makes everything too prosaic. It's too familiar. Also, I really do think any name for an underdark region has to include SOME reference to 'belowness.' 'Cause I hear the Darklands and I immediately think of surface-stuff: Mirkwood. The Badlands. The Land of Shadows. "Land" also conveys a broad expanse, where is one of the key things about underdarks is how twisted and cramped and claustrophobic they are. Even the biggest cities like Menzoberranzan or Zirnakeynin (sp?) feel super-tight and pressurized. No rolling plains of anything... No skies! No real weather... no spaciousness...
OMG this is a long post. Let's subtitle this "A Writer Avoiding His Real Writing for the Day"
* Please no one lecture me on how compound words are formed in English. I know how they're formed.
As a children's book writer myself (ahem!), and as someone who loves reading aloud to kids, one good thing to note is how *loving* the act of reading aloud/storytelling can be, IRL. If nothing else, you're spending time your time with someone, spending your time on them. It can create a space of great tenderness and closeness.
So, stereotypical evil drow would NOT be about that. Who's gonna waste their time on weak children? Why on earth would you try to create something rich for them? You wouldn't. Unless....
I believe that the tales the drow DO tell their children always have a horrid little twist at the end... aimed at the CHILD. A drow adult gets sadistic pleasure from lulling a child along with a gripping tale, but the end of the tale always ends up viciously skewering some particular aspect of that child's personality, for instance. (Or something else equally psychologically shattering.) The moral of the story: Don't ever let yourself be lulled!
By the way, need I say that I think doing this in the real world is deplorable? Terribly abusive. Utterly cruel. I.e., perfect for an evil and sadistic demon-worshipping race, alas. People weaker than you are mere victims and playthings. Alas.
I also think that this scenario probably happens: while one adult is telling the tots a riveting tale, another adult is sneaking into the kids' bedrooms and smashing all their possessions. "Ha ha, that'll learn ya."
A deaf iconic would be great, too. And I'm all for a Committee for Promoting Sakvroth Awareness.
Here's me spitballing a deaf iconic:
Let's say there's a relatively high occurrence of deafness in halflings. (Or the halflings of one specific region.) Due to brutal suppression of halfling culture in Cheliax, the indigenous sign language that Deaf AND hearing halflings developed together* was forcibly eradicated. (~A la all too many real world examples, like the efforts of settler boarding schools to stamp out Native American languages.)
And now the a-hole fascist Chelaxians have another reason to denigrate halflings: for their community 'harboring' so many 'disabled' members, and also for the hearing community 'enabling' their 'handicapped' members with a 'rude' language made of 'crude gestures and twitching.' (~This is how many many hearing people in the real world have responded to the languages Deaf people created on their own, alas.)
Anyway, one deaf halfling slave gets sold down into the Underdark when her new Chelaxian master discover that she's 'useless.' She ends up a slave in a drow city, where she sees Sakvroth being used all the time. She thinks about how amazing such a language could be, for use among her kin. (Not realizing that such a language existed not that long ago, but was harshly redacted out of existence by the Thrunies.)
This slave, let's call her Zace (no last name, she's a slave), eventually escapes from the drow, of course, and makes her way back to the surface world. The caves she emerges from have brought her to Andoran, birthplace of freedom! And Zace is now ready to bring (back) a sign language for use by her kin. "What a handy (ha ha) thing this will be to teach the Bellflower Network)..." she thinks...
Paizo folks, I'm happy to write Zace up- give me a jingle!
*(See Martha's Vineyard Sign Language for a great real world example! But there are actually many other instances of such a language, i.e., one utilized by both the Deaf and the hearing organically arising in communities with a high rate of deafness.)
I could not love this anymore!
Last of all, I LOVE Wayne Reynold's character design!
Oh... and I LOVE how many awesome trans characters (including an Empyreal Lord or two!) that Paizo now has. A growing smorgasbord...
Yay yay yay to Crystal, Shardra, and Paizo! I wish I had a rivethun shaman I could go to (bearing a gift or two) and ask her advice on the year ahead...
Or maybe the city is built around a flare-up of the Positive Energy Plane. What's coming through is raw (positive) power, which then is passed through 4 separate 'filters' or lenses- which renders the raw energy into each one of the 4 core Elements.
Am I totally thinking of this? http://www.amazon.com/Play-Doh-90020-Fun-Factory/dp/B004JMJKR4
Earth Air Fire Water.
The Earth plane contributes the landmass itself - and minerals, metals, building stones, etc.
A bit torn from each plane, by long-ago mages.
Elemental factionalism could crop up, plus maybe many elementals from the 'home' planes HATE this city for its ancient planar thefts.
(A lot of this is basically what @Ciaran Barnes was saying...)
Zon-Kuthon - before he was all cray-cray and slice-happy - i.e., when he was Dou-Bral (sp?)
In one of the Mythic supplements, it states that Dou-Bral made some unique stitchings, if you will, into the 'flesh' of Golarion itself (via mythic monuments), to help seal shut Rovagug's prison. A foreshadowing of his later, creepier interest in bindings and clamps and piercings and other charming whatnot...
Anyway- looking forward to this novel! Devils and psychopomps ahoy!
Thanks, Sara Marie!
If Rise of the Runelords does well, is there the thought of tackling other APs?
Regardless, I'm Über-excited for this series. Because:
I'm in. Will no doubt subscribe- though I already went ahead and purchased the first volume cause I'm just the eager to get my ears on it...
Heads up (or has this already been mentioned in this thread)
Wes Schneider himself is on hand to do a great talk re. the subject.
Gotta love Paizo!
oh- and shout-out to Know Direction- check out their podcasts (which are now also videos) - they're great!
As of last round, you became the guy I most to win...and you still are!
Dude- "Egelsee Effluent" is RIGHT THERE for the picking!
Or even Egelsee Sludge. Or Swill.
Regardless- I still dig this monster, it absolutely gets my vote, and you are still the guy I want to win!
Go forth, my brother! Prevail!