On casting Spirit Link or Shield Other (whatever spells it grants that transfer your hitpoints), give you spell level temporary hitpoints. No prevention of issues with the rules text.
An interesting thought, thank you.
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The godless Healing feat as a pre-req has the text "can’t have a patron deity". Oracle's draw their powers from many gods, but don't necessarily have a patron. So... Can they take Godless Healing? I mean, RAW it seems so... But RAI... It's sort of in the name implying no lol.
For an upcoming game I was brainstorming fun ideas for a staff for a life oracle I intend on playing. My front-runner is the Staff of the Martyr, or perhaps the staff of sacrifice. The theme of the staff being primarily healing others by harming yourself or taking their damage. The options I've seen so far are... Forbidding Ward Cantrip (sacrificing your action for a meager bonus? Lol)
Any other thoughts for possible spells? I'm also stumped for a balanced passive effect. The obvious would be to prevent a small amount of damage transfer, but that could be too strong and is explicitly forbidden by the above spells. Thoughts?
Although I don't think this really works rules as written... My GM is okay letting it fly house rules style. Whatever the various feats give me as an increase, will end up being my total leap distance.
Any suggestions on how to circumvent this problem? I am more than happy to take feats and such to make it happen. For example I was planning on taking breath control, and powerful leap. But this doesn't get around the base speed issue. I would prefer to avoid using the fly spell, as it loses the comedic value of flopping around.Since your goblin doesn’t actually know what a shark is, it might be more workable to pick some other animal totem and find the comedic value in the goblin simply insisting that whatever else you picked is a shark. a great idea, although unfortunately I have already portrayed myself adopting the facial features of a shark with raging. I guess although he doesn't really know what a shark is, he assumed the right face by instinct.
I am playing a goblin barbarian with the Shark as his Animal Instinct. He once got his butt kicked by a someone wearing a shark tooth necklace so he decided he needed to get stronger and sharper teeth by worshiping "The great God Shark." He of course has never seen a shark and has no idea what they really are. I've become a enamored with the idea of using the lvl 8 Animal Rage power to transform into a shark on the battlefield and use leap and such to flop around the battlefield. The shark form has a 35' swim but no land speed listed. Unfortunately under Athletics on page 242 of the core rulebook it says "You can't leap farther than your speed." Any suggestions on how to circumvent this problem? I am more than happy to take feats and such to make it happen. For example I was planning on taking breath control, and powerful leap. But this doesn't get around the base speed issue. I would prefer to avoid using the fly spell, as it loses the comedic value of flopping around.
So my group is running through the plague Stone adventure , and we seem to be running into a lot of issues with balance. Curious if anyone else is having the same issues, or if we just need to "get gud". As an example, without spoilers. At level two our two party melee characters both have an AC of 19. We just stopped a session in the middle of a fight where we were fighting a creature with plus 15 to hit. As a result, it will Crit us when rolling a 14 or better, and only misses if it rolls a 3 or less. Trying to debuff up the creature it's saving throws were such that it only failed on a 1 or a 2. Meanwhile its offensive ability had a DC of 21. Which is hard to beat at level two for most of our party. We are getting crit into the ground. This is not the first scenario in this adventure we've had this problem. A similar event happened at first level where things were having + 12 to hit us. It just seems like the monsters may need to be rebalanced a little. Our group is considered giving some of these fights the weak template. Thoughts?
I mean, except for the part where it takes 10 minutes/1 hour to administer this healing and 2 actions to draw and chug an Elixir. I'm not saying it's not useful. I actually have a familiar that I gave manual dexterity. So my toad sits on my shoulders and can feed me elixirs if I get hurt. So it actually only takes me one action to command my familiar :) The distinction between the two, is that one expends a resource and the other doesn't. Is it expanding gold in this case? No. But my elixirs made per day is very limited. It is effectively the expanding of a spell slot. And most of those go to bombs, since I am of the bomber focus. (I saw the picture of the goblin alchemist burning down The docks, and I just had to make one). Yes, I realize I get two elixirs for one batch of reagents. But since I lack cantrips, my bombs and reagents go quick.
If Treat Wounds is too video games, I am curious on your stance of wands of CLW. It depended on the campaign. I was never a huge fan of it, but it certainly did crop up sometimes. At least then, there is a finite resource being expended. One that is quite cheap at higher levels, but still a cost. And at level 2, 750 gold is quite a chunk of change. Treat wounds only has the initial cost for the kit. The funny part of all this, is that in pf1 I thought that heal was too weak. So I don't mind that they buffed it, but it seems like they took it too far. As stated previously, we are continuing with rules as written for now. After all, we are only level two. And our sample size so to speak, is still too small to make any major changes.
Any thought(s) / feelings? / Suggested Nerfs? This is one of the problems with the skill. The old CLW wand was an expended resource. As was the old healers kit. Cleric spell slots are also an expended resource. Maybe Im just butthurt because the "free" healer's kit uses are way more effective than my crappy 1d6 alchemist elixirs :p
We talked about nerfing the dice as you suggest. Which is a definite thought. The other thing we are thinking at might actually go with is increasing the DC by 5-10 (probably 5) every time you are treated. Which ends up lessening the healing via diminishing returns.
Lots of people disliked needing magic in order to let martials keep fighting during the day. Now, magic is much faster, but it isn’t required to avoid recovering for multiple days after a big fight. Perhaps we disagree on this. We just feel that it essentially makes damage meaningless. If I can get a just shy of fatal wound like a longsword through my abdomen and be back up like nothing happened in a few hours like nothing happened that is silly. Like our fighter, has 32hp. Average healing for a full hour of treating wounds is 18hp. So in 2 hours he goes from almost dead to full health nothing happened... with.. basic... bandages... Sure, it's nice for the non healers, but there is a flip side to that coin. When everyone can be as good as or better than your devoted healing magic for free.... it detracts from the role of the healer.
This is exactly our problem. Its a very video game feel, and kills suspension of disbelief. Just piling bandages on someone until they go from dying 3 to good as new tap dancing in a few hours is just silly. We also intend to keep playing RAW for now. It just seems OP thus far.
Being able to heal 4d8hp per medic per hour is a crazy level of downtime healing at level 2. If you treat wounds for 2d8 taking 10 minutes, you can continue to a full hour for double the healing, so 4d8. We had 2 medics, working on different people. So it was still 4d8 per medic per hour in this case.
So my group is just starting out on the plaguestone path, and medicine is kinda OP. After a rough fight, everyone was pretty hurt. We went to rest for the night, and found that the resting HP restoration rules simply didn't matter. Being able to heal 4d8hp per medic per hour is a crazy level of downtime healing at level 2. Throw in ward medic or continual recovery and it gets even more absurd. We ended up hand waving the healing rolls to save time. Sure, you could fail and damage yourself, but it takes 4 failed rolls to cancel out one successful roll. And a critical fail only happens on a 1 for us. We are considering nerfing the skill as a house rule, since slapping a few bandages on someone near death and then having them good as new within a few hours seems silly. We are talking about increasing the cooldown to once per day, and removing continual recovery as a feat, or making it have higher requirements. Any thought(s) / feelings? / Suggested Nerfs?
Flensing strike makes a target sickened. If i'm using poison, does the poison save come before or after the sicken? Benefit: When you successfully inflict sneak attack damage on a foe with a slashing weapon, your attack doesn’t go particularly deep, but you do carve away a significant portion of skin and flesh. If this sneak attack inflicts bleed damage, the victim of the sneak attack is sickened by the pain and has its natural armor bonus (if any) reduced by a number of points equal to the number of sneak attack dice you possess. These penalties persist as long as the bleed damage persists. Multiple strikes on the same foe do not stack the bleed damage, but the penalty to natural armor does stack, to a maximum penalty equal to the target’s normal full natural armor score
I'm part of a gaming group that rotates the GM every few levels with a new adventure. Sometimes we have self created content, sometimes canned adventures. The next GM has never run a Game before, so a canned adventure is ideal. Does anyone have any suggestions for stand alone adventures starting around lvl 8 or 9 they particularly enjoyed? No spoilers please, and thanks in advance.
As a general rule constructs are not meant to have intelligence. But you can put a brain in any construct you want, but that gets expensive and is risky. The easy fix would to be for someone to take leadership and hav e their lowbies be the crew. Throw in a few animated objects or golems for extra defense and you get the best of both worlds.
I don't think the hardening spell would work. Since you would need to pay a CP cost for the increased hardness. The spell seems balanced around this concept. The fortifying stone is cool though. Since it is acting as a buff. It can only be applied to objects though. Does the construct still count as an object once animated? Isn't it a creature at that point? The construct traits seem to imply that it is no longer an object, despite the name. Immunity to any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects, or is harmless).
I am applying the clockwork construct template to the animated object, which is a construct. Clockwork Traits: While you can create a clockwork construct from scratch, you can also turn any existing construct into a clockwork construct by simply applying clockwork traits to the construct. Adding these traits to a construct does not affect its CR. My intention is to animate a medium construct in the form of a table with 8 legs, his gun mounted to the front, a comfy chair mounted to the back. As far as vital statistics go, I'm mainly concerned with the hardness for durability, and the 40' move / climb. The thought of the gnome tinkerer blasting you with his experimental gun from the back of his clockwork spider platform climbing up a wall amuses me greatly.
So I'm playing a gnome spellslinger using a double hackbut as his gun... Who is also going down the craft construct line... With clockworks... Now that we have established that I am a masochist... I'm trying to figure out the cost of an item I want to animate. I want him to ride around on a medium sized object that is essentially a small table with a comfy chair mounted to it. Mount the hackbut to the front to avoid the setup issues an whalah. Cackling gnome gun platform of doom. Medium animated clockwork object.
So to enchant I get (5^2)x500x1.5 (clockwork)=18750 base price
Now... How much does it cost to craft the item I'm animating? What weight should I use to determine the 500/lb mithril cost? My obsessive trait is for craft clockwork... So the crafting dc's aided by crafter's fortune will be a non issue. I'm assuming the cost of the item is not included in the crafting cost.
Waters of lamashtu function as unholy water, except if you drink it or have it poured on you in a ritual you have to save or take the ability damage. Since unholy ice weapon only uses the unholy water function, you would not gain any extra benefit from using the waters of lamshtu unless they were to eat the ice of the weapon. It could be a great response to swallow whole though.
With the incredible length of this thread, I have no idea if this has been brought up or not but... A succubus could easily use its charm monster or dominate abilities to "lure someone in for and act of passion" and not even be grappled or have to expend an action. 1) charm, suggestion, dominate (standard)
Sadly, I lack pictures.
What happens when you apply the clockwork construct template to a golem? The template gives electricity vulnerability, but golems tend to be immune to almost all magic. Vulnerable to Electricity: Clockwork constructs take 150% as much damage as is normal from electricity attacks
So what happens? 1) The golem remains immune to the spell lightning bolt but should be careful in a natural thunderstorm taking x1.5dmg.2) The golem is no longer immune to magical lightning and will take x1.5 dmg from any electricity. 3) The golem retains its immunities but any special effects (such as the duration of an iron golem being slowed) are x1.5
No. Just because something calls for a will save does not mean it is mind-affecting. Heat metal being a wonderful example.
Pardon my necro, but I see no reason why you can't sing or orate while dancing. After all, the standard bard is perfectly capable of using perform sing during combat. If the feat were specifically tied to perform sing and or oratory in it's use, that would mean it would be unusable to any instrument using bards as well.
Dazing Metamagic rod instead of Extend....that's all. I'd love to. But that costs 14k vs the 3 of the extend rod.
Thanks for the replies.
As for spell specialization, eh... I dunno. As it is now I could Empower a fireball for 15d6+21. Yes, I could get 13D6 vs 11d6 with an intensified fireball... but when we go mythic I'll get +3 Fire CL with elemental bond and mythic paragon putting me just 1 level away from a maximum 15d6 intensified fireball. After that point, the extra DC should be more useful with things like sirrocco or tar pool I would think. Dazing spell, I absolutely intend to pick it up. It is just a little steep at +3 spell level. I would only be able to apply it to my 1st level spells at this point. I saw the orc bloodline, and I might be able to talk my GM into allowing it, but I think I like the versatility of being able to convert spells better than the extra damage. For instance, fighting a fire immune leaving ball lightning as lightning will be a huge benefit. AC items: Draconic Resistance gives me 2 base natural armor already and upgrades to 4 eventually. So buffed it would give me an AC of 24. It isn't stellar, but it isn't bad either. Iron will is a good thought. I'll have to keep that in mind.
I'm making a fire focused sorcerer for a home game where I'm starting at lvl 9 and that may soon go mythic. Looking at the following for my build: Half Orc Crossblooded Gold Dragon / Fire Elemental Sorcerer. Chaotic Neutral: a bit of a pyromaniac, he means well but has trouble controlling his impulses and his split nature. Stats: 20 pt buy after race and lvl
Racial: (only alterations noted)
Traits:
Feats:
Bloodline Abilities:
Favored Class: 0.5 dmg/ lvl to fire spells. Currently +4 dmg per spell. Items: 30K budget
Spells: total bonuses +1 CL, +2 DC, and extra damage to fire spells. +1 CL and DC to evocation. +2 Spell Penetration. Cantrips: Detect Magic, Read Magic, Mage Hand, Message, Presdigitation, Spark, Ray of Frost. 1: Mage Armor (bloodline), Charm Person, Magic Missile, Shocking Grasp, Vanish. 2: Scorching Ray (bloodline), Pyrotechnics, See Invisibility, False Life 3: Protection from energy (bloodline), Fireball, Fly 4: Fear (bloodline), Ball Lightning. So I'll change things into fire damage as needed and blow the tar out of most things lacking fire resistance or immunity. For those threats, Magic Missile, unaltered Shocking Grasp / Ball Lightning, and fear should keep me being able to contribute. Which will be good, since a Red Dragon fight is likely soon. Thoughts?
It may not be RAW, but as a GM I handle both situations on a case by case basis. I wouldn't normally have burning hands catch folk on fire, but if the party threw lamp oil on the poor soul? Sure. If they rolled a 1 on their save? Maybe, if it adds to the scene. Etc. As for secondary effects I try to adjust them in ways that make sense. For example, Shocking Grasp normally gives a +3 bonus to hit against those wearing metal armor. Change it to flaming grasp? +3 to hit vs people wearing cloth only or monsters with a lot of hair.
I'm going to say no for a few reasons. The rules several times refer to extracts being "cast". You are mixing the reagents and adding a magic spark to them, with the drinking being the final somatic component. For reference:
To be fair, it does also say later "Although the alchemist doesn't actually cast spells", it seems a technicality but RAW you could use it as an argument. RAI however, amazing initiative is worded as it is to prevent spell casters (which an alchemist effectively is) from casting multiple spells per round. Otherwise mid to late game a caster could cast 3 spells in a round (quicken + amazing initiative). As spells get more powerful and mythic versions are thrown in, that would get truly absurdly unbalanced. An alchemist could easily do this as well with the trickster path ability assured drinker. Add in combine extracts and the alchemist would have the potential to use 6 extracts in one round. I say no.
I'm curious about this as well. Though from how the ability reads I'm inclined to say it stacks with itself.
Wings of Air (Sylph)
Benefit: Your bonus on saves against effects with the air or electricity descriptors and effects that deal electricity damage increases to +4. In addition, you gain a supernatural fly speed equal to your base speed (good maneuverability). You may only fly with this ability when wearing light armor or no armor. Question: Does monk fast movement boost the fly speed granted by this feat?
What about a monk's fast movement?
Just thought this was an interesting tid bit worth adding to the thread. While reading Rise of the Runelord Anniversary edition, on page 364 we find Karzoug the Claimer owning a wand of blood money. Now I wonder if it was intended to be used to help power some of his spells. Probably not, but it still makes me wonder. A Metamagic rod of quicken solves the action economy issue, and is worth having anyway.
So I'm playing an abjuration specialist, and my DM let me use Focused Specialist from 3.5. End result is I have 3 cantrip slots for abjuration spells only, but there is only 1 in existence (Resistance). So I'm looking for ideas for other abjuration cantrips I might beg for / research. Here is one I put forth to my GM and got approved, just need 1 more. Fleeting Ward
Target gains 1 deflection AC that lasts the duration of the spell or until the target is hit by an attack.
Bump. Nobody?
StuffYeah, so RAW, you can apply Crane Wing to any attack, and if it misses you can Riposte it even if that attack would have missed normally. This is different than the old wording, and makes it significantly easier to get Crane Riposte to trigger than before. This is because you couldn't Crane Wing (and therefore could not Riposte) unless the attack would have hit you normally. Ah, I see. It isn't giving more than one per round or anything, but if you use it on later iterative attacks or secondary attacks you have a much better chance to trigger an AoO. Where before you may go multiple rounds with nobody penetrating your already high AC. Interesting.
The player in my group, who was previously distraught at how the Crane Wing errata destroyed his monk trip build (his favorite character to date), is now actually kind of excited at the Crane Riposte changes. He thinks it's even MORE powerful now. As he put it, "wait, you mean I can riposte on a miss now--I don't have to wait for them to hit my nigh-untouchable AC? I'm going to be bashing faces left and right!"Yeah, it does seem that Paizo prefers characters to be all offense. Playing a defensive character seems to be a big no-no, even if that's the 'whole point' of the character. Unless I'm missing something this is not the case. You only get the Riposte from the attack that you declare your AC bonus against or if you go total defense the attack you deflect. Crane Riposte: With the changes made to Crane Wing, how does Crane Riposte work? While the feat still reduced your penalty when fighting defensively, there is a change to the text the follows. From the FAQ. Update: Page 93, in the Crane Riposte feat, in the benefits paragraph, change the second sentence to read as follows: Whenever you are fighting defensively, and you use Crane Wing to add a dodge bonus against one attack, that attack provokes an attack of opportunity from you if it misses. In addition, when you deflect an attack using Crane Wing while taking the total defense action, you may make an attack of opportunity against that opponent (even though you could not normally do so while taking the total defense action).
EDIT: @MrSin: I am so tempted to try to find a way to make a Whale Tossin' encounter work, now. I played in a game once where the summoner kept summoning celestial orca at a fiendish Hydra. They would smite, get one rounded, then the summoner would rinse / repeat. Needless to say, it didn't take what we dubbed the orca cannon long to demolish that poor hydra.
If your DM allows conversion of 3.5 feats Reactive Counterspell is your best friend. As stated, you will likely want a good initiative so improved init is great (don't forget about your perception though). And Counterspell mastery already gives improved counterspell, so it is an easy feat to pick up at 7th level.
At higher levels (15), don't forget about the glory that is Parry Spell.
If you are playing a mythic game, Eldrich Breach and Flexible Counterspell are delicious. Eldrich breach takes the success chance of a 50/50 dispel check and makes it more like 80%. Get a few CL boosting bonuses in (or just use greater dispel) and you can have a near guaranteed dispel / counter.
Out of your immediate action counterspells per day? As long as you have mythic power you are good to go with Flexible Counterspell.
Want to really make an enemy caster hate life? Mix Dweomer Retaliation (spell from Cheliax, empire of devils) with the Dazing Spell metamagic feat. You will get temp hit points, they take damage, they make a will save or are Dazed for 3 rounds, and if you beat them (by a lot) in a concentration check you get the spell back...
Curious how these 2 interact. If I take the Archmage path ability Crafting mastery and the Mythic Feat Mythic Crafter can I make mythic versions of all the item types? I'm assuming no... it just seems a bit vague. Mythic Crafter (Mythic)
Crafting Mastery (Ex)
<chuckles> So he didn't want to let me take harmonious mage. He likes the idea of gun mages having 4 opposition schools. So he is instead giving me a permanent golem manual that includes directions for all constructs and spells with no opposition school penalty.... Errm... uh.. okay.
Edit: if you want to be a construct-crafter, AVOID THE SPELLSLINGER LIKE THE PLAGUE! I'm sorry, but the fact you have 4 (yes 4) opposition schools means that each spell in an opposition school will increase the craft DCs by +4 (as well as a number of +5s for each spell that you dont know/are on the divine list, like ANIMATE OBJECTS! Frustrating stuff) I missed this earlier. I wasn't very concerned about that because the first archmage path ability I am taking removes 2 opposition schools and Wild Arcana lets me cast any spell on the wizard list regardless of opposition school or if I know the spell. Harmonious Mage (Ex) Your wizardly studies have moved beyond the concept of opposition schools. Select two opposition schools. These are no longer opposition schools for you, preparing spells from one of these schools now only requires one spell slot of the appropriate level instead of two, and you no longer take the –4 Spellcraft penalty for crafting items from an opposition school.
Though now that I post this the last sentence gives me pause due to the School of the Gun. School of the Gun The rigor and care required by arcane guns is so great that a spellslinger forsakes four schools of magic. These opposition schools are chosen at 1st level and cannot be changed later. A spellslinger who prepares a spell from his opposition school must use two spell slots of that level to prepare the spell. In addition, the spellslinger takes a –4 penalty on any skill checks made when crafting a magic item that has a spell from one of his opposition schools as a prerequisite.
I imagine my GM will still be okay with it... but.. hmm....
I appreciate that. We generally don't play with 3rd party supplements though so it isn't very likely. Don't worry about it though. It was, after all, only a dollar.
I did up a mythic version of the Craft Construct feat that you can find in the Feats of Monstrous Magic product that just released today from Legendary Games. It's a 3PP product you can find right here on Paizo and it's only a buck. An interesting take, but way too expensive. Adjusting for the math error above where I was actually calculating cost to purchase instead of construct we get the following. Standard Flesh Golem: 10.5K
May the gods take mercy on you should you try to craft an end game golem such as adamantine.
And to make it worse, per your rules you wouldn't even control it since giving it INT gives it free will. Though I suppose if you ever ran an epic game it would make one hell of a cohort. Also there seems to be errors in your text from copying what looks like a version of the Awaken Construct spell. (you refer the the feat as a spell) All in all, I thank you for the suggestion but consider the feat unusable and the PDF a waste of a dollar.
One of the things I was planning was golem armor, which gives bang for my buck without cluttering the table, but yeah. Crafting mastery isn't a bad plan. One nice thing about a mythic game is Wild Arcana pretty much wipes out the problem with not meeting spell requirements.
Oh, no. I was talking about constructing the golem from the ground up and making it mythic in that process. Same with legendary. The easiest way to do this would be to make a mythic flesh golem (which they actually gave a 6 int. Yummy...) The issue being I don't want to do that since a flesh golem doesn't fit in with the gnomish tinkerer idea I had from a RP standpoint. Clockworks or a cannon golem seem more appropriate (He is a gun mage aka Spellslinger after all) I wasn't suggesting constructs that I had made previously just upgrade for free. And yeah, The CR adjust from adding mythic should increase the cost to construct it. The mythic flesh golem for example is CR 9, instead of CR 7 for standard. So price would go from about 20k to about 35k if my math is right. Ouch... glad I'm taking hedge wizard, lol.
Mythic Crafter Prerequisite(s): Any item creation feat.Benefit: You can create any mythic magic item for which you have the appropriate item creation feat. In addition, you gain a +5 bonus on skill checks when creating non-mythic magic items. This seems to suggest to the contrary. Cr500cricket: Thank you, I had missed the mythic flesh golem entry somehow.
Have a concept for a tinkering gnomish gun mage who will eventually craft constructs. So, the question becomes what exactly happens when I use craft construct in conjunction with mythic crafter? Does the construct gain 1/2 its CR in mythic rank per monster creation rules? How are the abilities chosen? Can I custom choose or am I subject to the DMs whim? (Path-wise champion or guardian seem appropriate) Furthermore, could one craft a legendary construct via the Legendary Item universal path ability?
As you can see... the ambiguity is making my head swirl. Any help or clarity would be appreciated. |