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I already had half the books most of the big books so not as much of a super savings but still well worth it, slightly more than the cost of 1 PDF get all the ones I didn't have.

I would love to see such a bundle for the 1e stuff to get the stuff i missed.

Dancing Wind wrote:

we also have some errata for those books.

Are the errata in the PDFs being released today?

Or will those PDFs be updated at a later time?

Errata in the PDFs are not being released at this time. We need more time to collect, process and copyfit, which is generally driven by the reprinting physical books.

Any chance in the short time while we wait on the main PDF's to be updated. That we can have all the errata made into a single pdf or even txt file that we can download? That would be a lot more handy that having to check the web page.

Not something that interest me, but best of luck with the project. Hopefully it makes money, so Paizo can turn around and dump those profits back into Pathfinder books.

Hopefully no one minds I post this link to a Roll for Combat live stream where they talked to Erik Mona and Thurstan Hillman, I think they answer some of the questions people have been asking in this thread like the differences in when PC's can get flight etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb7jgE0jisg

I checked out SF1 with one of the humble bundles and thought it was ok, but it just didn't grab me. I like to many of the changes PF2 made to go back to PF1 or a game with a similar system like DnD3.5 etc.

So I am a lot more interested in checking out SF now that it will use some of the stuff I thought where nice changes for PF2, 3 action economy being a big one.

Anyways, depending how the playtest goes next year, might have to see about moving things around to budget SF subscriptions in a couple of years.

Must get stuffed grey kitty.

PensiveOcelot wrote:

lastgrasp wrote:

I purchased the Humble Bundle & paid for the shipping of the physical products. Does anyone know how you access the pdfs? I don't see it in my download section.

Thank you.

It's a little tricky, but you should have received a code for each tier you paid for, and there should be a link once you've paid that directs you to a part of the paizo site where you can enter those codes in. Once you do that they appear in your downloads page.

No luck. I redeem the code for next lowest tier and got some of the PDFs. The rest don't show anything. I have to contact them.

Each tier has it's own redeem code. You can't just use the highest code and get it all. I bought the complete set and I think I had to enter 5 or 6 codes to get it all unlocked.

I had not checked out Starfinder yet, but this seems like a cheap way to check it out. Plus I like to support Paizo and Humble Bundle when I can, not to mention it helps out a charity.

Announced for November! Product image and description are NOT final and may be subject to change.

just pointing out if you notice the text by the preorder button it says October and your post says November and I know Jason in the live stream said October and then corrected it and said November as well.

Anyways just point it out so you might want to change it. It is the same on the Players Core Book 1 as well.

Elves are not a creation of the folks of WotC or even JRR Tolkien.

Do they need to change the name of a Cloak of Elvenkind?

This is the sort of question that I am hoping they are asking themselves. What they do sets a precedent and capitulating completely on things where they don’t need to is bad.

They have talked about how costly a legal battle can be, but I’m hoping they are also keeping in mind how costly conceding rights can also be.

We already know they don’t intend to carry Otyugh into the remastered content.

My understanding is that you can’t copyright names, that is Trademark or Servicemark. The 1st edition Monster Manual doesn’t list a Trademark on Otyugh. I think TSR (who WotC bought) only have copyright for their description of the monster. To my knowledge, the Otyugh is a monster that was original to D & D but there are still limits on what about that copyright can protect.

I am not advocating that Paizo set themselves up for a complicated and costly legal battle. I would like some assurance that they also aren’t abandoning things where there is a weak to non-existent IP claim...

I just used Elven Cloak as a example. They could change slightly what it does and leave the name the same, change the name slightly and leave what it does the same etc. So in the end we will have a cloak that does basically the same thing. Same with most of the monsters, magic items etc.

I was only pointing out even with the stuff they have to or feel it would be safer to tweak to avoid possible legal issues. I doubt it will have much effect at all, since much of DnD lore comes from real world lore or other sources anyways.

bugleyman wrote:

Amazing how all edition wars start to look the same, right down to the inevitable "no one is coming to your house to steal your books" straw man.

With WotC hiring Pinkertons to retrieve MTG cards, I’m not sure we can call that a straw man anymore…

On the other hand, I would like to remind everyone complaining about having already purchased the books that this means they can play the game now rather than waiting until November or later.

I am concerned that this announcement will stifle sales of the current material, even things like the Lost Omens books that are not getting any changes. I wouldn’t want to wait six months but I suppose it might be worth it to others.

I am somewhat concerned that Paizo might be giving up a bit more than they should with respect to removing the OGL. I do hope they don’t remove things like Pegasus or the Elven Cloaks. They need to do their own game stats for such things but most of that was already done in the 2e conversion. A lot of the D&D material comes from lore that predates the game.

Pegasus and many of the monsters come from real world myth's so they won't go away. Maybe a few tweaks and some of the ones who's names are IP's they have already said they will be replacing them with similar monsters that fill a similar role.

Things like Elven cloak might get renamed maybe, to shadow cloak and it helps you hide(assuming they still do that in PF2e didn't look).

I think it would be a good idea to go forward with a series of player core books, that only has player info. Then keep other books with info for GM's. Split how they currently release some books like Dark Archives etc which has a mix of GM and player info in it.

I also think it would make it more clear to players what books should they get to get more player options, if it was all kept in player core book series.

I really really hope this isn't just Paizo getting cocky/greedy and attempting to double-dip after angry dnd FANS MOVED OVER TO pf2E and bought out 8 months of books in a month.

They are doing it because some stuff falls under the OGL which they want to move away from. Honestly after what WoTC tried earlier this year who could blame them. Which means removing some stuff that can only be used with the OGL and replacing it, and printing the game with the ORC licence going forward. Since they have to make changes because of the OGL they might as well tweek a few things.

I just like 2 months ago back into PF, I just ordered the PF2E Players Core book like 3 days ago. So I get how you feel, but I also understand why they have to do this. I wouldn't want to tie my game to the OGL and good will of WoTC anymore either.

Are both the new player core and gm core both coming out in the same month? If so that will be a very expensive month for subscribers. Both of these plus at least the AP book for about 147 roughly.

I would honestly rather seem one delayed a month to spread it out some.

I assume this will work like the Paizo stuff. As in order it and set it to be shipped with the next subscription to save on shipping.

An "Adventure Finder" for PF2E would also be a good thing.

yeah I agree, right now it isn't a big issues as there is not that many adventures yet, but in time it will be.

How did I not know that you had returned?!!

I succeeded at my sneak check?

That's called "having spell slots". If you don't like encounter powers, it's very possible to play a character without them. Personally, I don't like daily powers, and it gladdens me that it's possible to play without them, too. Saying "I hate encounter powers and wish they were daily powers instead"... I'm going to have to say that I am bitterly opposed to your position on this matter. If they're not for you, then that's fine... but don't try to take them away from the rest of us so you can have more daily stuff.

Who said anything about taking them away from you. I said I didn't like them and that I would change them and was just talking about ways I might change them for my own games.

Then again, you can recover your points AND do something else in that short rest. It's also a bit better for the narrative, as you need to take a break in order to use your focus spells again rather than magically regaining them after a grueling battle.

It doesn't "make sense" that you recover encounter powers after a 5-round fight when you just came out of a 2-round fight before that.

It is better than how 4e did it yes, but I still not a fan of either. I would rather it be something like you get 10 focus points and only recover them after a 8 hour rest or something. As I said not really sure how I would change them, only that it is one of the few things I actually don't like about PF2e

Interesting discussion about focus being like encounter powers, but makes sense and in many ways it is. Which likely is why focus points is one of two things I don't actually like about PF2e, the other being that they got away from spell list for each class to make them feel more unique.

I don't dislike the idea of focus points but I am not a fan of how they are used, aka limited number and you take a short rest to recover them between fights. Not sure how I would change it but just not a fan of it, which makes sense I didn't like the per encounter powers of 4e.

I would like to see a feature in the 3rd party PF2e section where I could sort all 3rd party products by date sold. Then I could see what all has been added. Right now I have to go to each company and then switch the view to newest first.

A small thing I know but it would be a nice feature.

Any idea when physical copies of 2e core rulebook in hardback will be available?

I want to say I remember reading somewhere on here it was expected middle of April.

This is not a true review, just a overview of the condition of the non-mint version. I picked one of the non mints up.

I will note I noticed like a day or two after I placed my order that Paizo stopped offering non-mint versions of the book.

I bring this up, because I am wondering if they ran out of non-mint or over sold them or something. Because the copy I got is perfect, I looked and looked and there is just nothing at all wrong with it. The print out I got still says non-mint, but it was not in bold like all the other non-mint books I have gotten. Coincidence? Maybe, or is my theory above true.

This is not a true review, just a overview of the condition of the non-mint version. I picked one of the non mints up.

It had a crease about one inch from the open edge of the book. Which causes the cover to curl up a bit and not sit flat. About 25% of the pages inside suffer from the same thing. I am putting a lot of heavy books on top of it and see if I can get it to flatten out to make it stop curling up at the edge. Though the crease on the cover will always be visible even if I mange to completely flatten it back out.

I sometimes think the price points is some master plan to get people to buy more.

Since I am catching up on PF2E i decided the best way is to order a few books each month to take advantage of the 10 dollars off shipping if you order more than 100 in a order and set it all to ship at once.

With April's coming subscription cost and the items on sale I want to pick up, the closest I could get was 99.17 so had to add in another item to push it up to around 113 and change. Still worth it as the free shipping makes most of that 13 and change over free, but it would have been nice if I could have manage 100.17 you know.

Dark_Mistress wrote:

I am guessing this is correct but want to confirm. If say I buy several items on the last day of the sale April 4th and set it to always ship once a month with the subscription that is fine? So even though the items won't ship until the end of the month with the subscriptions you get the sale price. I only ask because I know you are not actually charged for stuff until it ships, which would be after the sale.

I double checked to make sure this is indeed true. Add the sale items you want and check out, our system will remember that and charge accordingly. The one caveat would be try not to add items between when the sale ends and when your items ship. Worst case scenario, emailing customer service will help as they can get it fixed.

Ok thanks, that is what I expected but wanted to be sure.

I am guessing this is correct but want to confirm. If say I buy several items on the last day of the sale April 4th and set it to always ship once a month with the subscription that is fine? So even though the items won't ship until the end of the month with the subscriptions you get the sale price. I only ask because I know you are not actually charged for stuff until it ships, which would be after the sale.

I know I would love to see a detailed weather/season system for Golarion. Where each nation or region with in a nation had random weather tables based on the season.

Dark_Mistress wrote:

Other than the art is there any difference to the original set? I know I would personally love to have a harrow set in actual Tarrot card size, which are much bigger than playing card size.

From the description:

Product Description wrote:

... and a size common to many real-world tarot decks...

Reading is hard sometimes.

Dark_Mistress wrote:

A lot more of what the Travelers Guide had. More info on each nation or regions holidays, different kinds of dress, foods, drinks, common sayings, things like that so each area really feels different. I mean in RL you can see major regional differences with in a single country in food, drinks, even clothing styles. I imagine in a fantasy setting with a lot more difference ancestries, magic, monsters etc it would be even more noticeable.

Expanded heritages, example teifling different ones based on each of the different demons, devils, deamons etc. Sure some might be similar enough, but some should be radically different. Would like to see the same thing with changlings which are now all hag, would like to see Satyr, dryad etc versions all with some differences.

What is Traveler's Guide? Is that from PF1E? Sounds interesting.

What the others said, I didn't have the book at hand so was guessing at the name.

As for the topic about spell slots I think it depends a lot on style of play. If you have a party that pushes, with a healer that specializes in healing. You can push beyond the ability of low level casters to keep up. But if your group likes take breaks and pulling back to rest it isn't really a problem. At least that is my opinion on it.

As for the witch subtopic, it was one of my favorite classes in 1e and now after reading it. I think it is one of the weakest if not weakest caster. It doesn't really seem to offer anything special anymore beyond flavor. I admit I have not yet played one but reading it, that has been my impression and what I have read here and on other places from others that seems to be a common opinion which is sad.

Right now after only reading things and not playing I think my fix would be the following.
focus spell - it allows you to cast any spell known by your familiar. Giving the witch a slight spontaneous caster ability. The idea is the focus spell is she is drawing the power from her familiar/patron and not herself casting it per say but only acting as a focus point.

hexes - make them at will abilities. can only use 1 of the 3 actions a turn on using a hex. cackle is uses the reaction action for the turn, to let a witch be a good buffer and debuffer again. Might have to removed a couple of the spells that are currently called hexes though for that to work would have to check it.

but that is my first thoughts on the witch.

A lot more of what the Travelers Guide had. More info on each nation or regions holidays, different kinds of dress, foods, drinks, common sayings, things like that so each area really feels different. I mean in RL you can see major regional differences with in a single country in food, drinks, even clothing styles. I imagine in a fantasy setting with a lot more difference ancestries, magic, monsters etc it would be even more noticeable.

Expanded heritages, example teifling different ones based on each of the different demons, devils, deamons etc. Sure some might be similar enough, but some should be radically different. Would like to see the same thing with changlings which are now all hag, would like to see Satyr, dryad etc versions all with some differences.

When I last run Pathfinder the biggest changes was.

Gods - where more regional. While some crossed over regions they was seen slightly different, sometimes with different names and looks in different regions. As it helped reflect the differences in cultures.

Numeria - was turned into a more traditional fantasy nation. Personally not a fan of scifi/magic mix, same reason i am not a fan of shadowrun game, but love cyberpunk.

magic - low end magic is sorta common, in that alchemy and herbalism mimic many things you might find. Such as herbalism birth control, Alchemy bath heating, airships(expensive but around, yet still fairly rare) etc. While higher magic is a bit more rare than default.

tech - kinda covered in magic above, you might find things you would find from our world from the 1500-late 1800's as far as tech. Not steam punk but borrows some elements from it. (mostly because I love steam punk)

alignment - it was a lot less hard and fast and turned into a gradual scale. Neutral in the middle with the two extremes being good/evil and lawful/chaotic. So if detect evil was cast it could have results of. faint evil traces(some starting down the evil track from neutral), to mildly evil(what is called we had names but I can't find my notes at the moment they are in a box somewhere), fairly evil, to pure evil(for those at the end of the scale) and same for the rest.

As for 2e changes I have read on it some and i like some of the changes, some of it I love and some I don't. So personally I when I next run a game, go with 1e setting while burrowing a fair bit from 2e setting.

As far as the Devil, daemon, and demon discussion the main difference is demons are cool of course. Smarter, better looking, just over all better.

Other than the art is there any difference to the original set? I know I would personally love to have a harrow set in actual Tarrot card size, which are much bigger than playing card size.

Any shipment that costs over $100 gets the $10 off, so yes.

Quote:

Paizo will pay the first $10 in shipping and handling for any shipment of products totaling $100 or more.

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Yeah I read that but was just making sure since it is technically 2 different orders just being shipped together. I thought it would but as I said wanted to be positive.

Question if I order some stuff and have it set to ship with this months subscriptions and that total for both the order and subscriptions goes over 100 does that get the 10 dollars off shipping still?

For anyone that is thinking of getting a non-mint copy of this. I thought I would share my thoughts, this is not a true review as I am only going to talk about the non-mint condition.

This one had the lower corner of the back cover smashed just a bit. So it doesn't come to a complete point but is rounded off a bit. Otherwise it is in great shape. Guns and Gears had a minor spine issue, while both Book of the Dead and Dark Archive appear to have no issues despite them suppose to be non-mint.

I checked those two over closely and I can't even find a scratch on the cover or a folder page or anything wrong with them. Anyways if you are on a budget and are thinking of picking this up, I would say the non-mint copies are totally worth it.

For anyone that is thinking of getting a non-mint copy of this. I thought I would share my thoughts, this is not a true review as I am only going to talk about the non-mint condition.

This like Book of the Dead has no issues I can find on it, despite it saying non-mint. I got vault of treasures new as part of the subscription and it seems to be in the same shape as them. Got 2 other non-mint and those had minor issues on them, so if you are on a budget and want to get this book the non-mint is worth it.

For anyone that is thinking of getting a non-mint copy of this. I thought I would share my thoughts, this is not a true review as I am only going to talk about the non-mint condition.

I have searched the book over and honestly I can't even find a scratch on the corner. Got the new treasure vault book at the same time and they both seem to be in the same condition. Got 3 other non-mint books as well, another is like this where I can't find a issue. The other two have minor issues. So if you are on a budget the non-mints are worth picking up.

For anyone that is thinking of getting a non-mint copy of this. I thought I would share my thoughts, this is not a true review as I am only going to talk about the non-mint condition.

The book is in great shape but one spot on the upper spine. It almost looks like it foldered the spine a bit on top of it's self. What I mean is there is a bump where the spin is thicker for the final top inch or so. The pages seem secure etc. So other than that bump it is in fine shape, so if you want it and are a budget it is worth picking up the non-mint, I picked up 3 other books and they was all in even better shape than this one and this one is in pretty good shape.

Welcome back Dark Mistress, yes the boards have changed, for good or bad I don't know. But glad to see some of the older faces back again, hopefully the boards might pick up a little. Enjoy some topics on the boards and hopefully you will find threads that will hold your interest again.

EtG

I didn't leave because of topics or like of people here. I left for very specific reasons which I touched on early in the thread. I am getting back into pathfinder again with 2e now so will be checking out things from time to time. Though it will be awhile to catch up on the 2e books that interest me, before I start looking into 3rd party stuff and homebrew stuff which is where I spent most of my time last time I was here.

Like Sasha, I joined the forums just before you left, but I read and enjoyed so many of your posts. Welcome back.

Still find it weird people remember me like you and some others have said.

Ok cool, that's what I thought. I seem to remember liking it a lot the original.

I have not bought this yet, but I do love the idea of books like this. First have to slowly pick up the PF2e books before diving back into 3rd party stuff, but this is now on my future wishlist.

Plans to do the rest of the fey creatures then maybe starts on similar books for oh I don't know say demons, cause you know their cool and all? Then other planer creatures etc.

Am I wrong or wasn't this a 1e version of this product? Or one similar I seem to remember doing a review about a product like this for pathfinder 1e

Question is the non-mint copy of the book the 4th printing?

I remember you, but mostly on the Necromancer Games forums when they existed.

Yeah I noticed they was gone as well, was going to pop on there to say hi but they don't exist. I was mostly wanting to reply to a PM Clark left me awhile back but I have not found a way beyond PMing him back here to get in contact with him again. As all the old info I have no longer works.

Thanks for the welcome backs

We are thinking of getting back into Pathfinder after not gaming at all for awhile. Picked up a number of the PDF's on that humblebundle sale they have going on right now.

Yeah Clark and Bill founded Necromancer games together then they split and Clark kept running Necromancer and Bill started Frog God games.

Still a little odd to have people tell me my presence was noticed. But thanks.

Welcome back! Has it been 7 years? Sheesh, Time flies!

Just over actually, I believe it was 2015 when I left. For few reasons only one public if anyone even remembers that.

Speaking of which does Orcus aka Clark still post on here?