[GD14] 6-17: The Devil in the Details

Game Master Michael Hallet

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Radiant Oath

2396852-2015 | Female Half-Elf | Field Medic | Monk Lvl 7 | Medic Dedication | Arrows: 31/35 | HP 108/108 | AC 27 | F/R/W/P: 16/16/15/15 LL | 40 feet | Class DC 24 | Focus Points: 2/2 | Moderate Healing Potion: 1/2 | Medicine(M): +18, Acrobatics(E): +17, Stealth/Crafting(E): +15, Nature/Survival: +14, Athletics/Lore (PFS, Warfare): +13 | Exploration Activity: Search | Hero Points: 0/3 | ◈◇↺ |
GM Mike Hallet wrote:

It is Fin-thir's turn.

FYI. This scenario runs long. At our pace we definitely won't be even close to done by the end of the gameday. We'll lucky to be done before the new year.

No worries. Assuming Kat comes out the other side, she'll level up...

Dark Archive

Sorry for the delay. In addition to my busy weekend, I had to do some digging through the rules.

My interpretation of what I read is that just as with the pre-remaster rules, attack roll modifiers like courageous anthem, do not apply to skill actions like grapple.

This was explicitly mentioned in the Core Rulebook FAQ, but I could not find anything definitive in the Player Core or FAQ. What I based my decision on was the rules section of attacks in Player Core 302-203, specifically on the last part of that section, "Compare to AC" suggests that if it doesn't target AC, then it is not an attack roll, but a skill check with the attach trait (meaning MAP applies). There are items that make exceptions such as the Shadow Signet, but they explicitly spell out that the check is still an attack roll.

It mattered in this case as a phistophilus has a Fortitude DC of 28.

If someone has seen something definitive from a rules source that says this has changed, please point it out to me.

Envoy's Alliance

♥️ 107 | AC 27 | Saves 16/17/16|Focus Points ☑ | PFS# 133608-2001 | Male Human Bard (Level 9) | | ☘️ 3 | Spells DC 27 (Occult)-/3/3/2/1/1 (Divine) - | Perception +13 |◆◇↺ |

Huh, Today I Learned, it's a Skill Check with the Attack Trait, and not an Attack Roll. We'll see if this bites us later and she comes back with reinforcements...


Map and handout aid Token.
Emmanuel Holysmith wrote:
Huh, Today I Learned, it's a Skill Check with the Attack Trait, and not an Attack Roll. We'll see if this bites us later and she comes back with reinforcements...

Yeah. There is attack rolls and there is the attack trait. But Hirondelle would like the song that augment the athletics skill next fight.

Also cool! The majority of table didn't kill a cheliaxian!

Dark Archive

Anyone?

Dark Archive

Fin-thir is up.


Map and handout aid Token.

Fin-thir, Emmanuel and Charles, estes You can position yourself adajacent to the square that are inside to the orange line.

Envoy's Alliance

♥️ 107 | AC 27 | Saves 16/17/16|Focus Points ☑ | PFS# 133608-2001 | Male Human Bard (Level 9) | | ☘️ 3 | Spells DC 27 (Occult)-/3/3/2/1/1 (Divine) - | Perception +13 |◆◇↺ |

Thanks! That's a cool Exemplar ability...


Map and handout aid Token.
Emmanuel Holysmith wrote:
Thanks! That's a cool Exemplar ability...

Yes. Hirondelle is essentially Hercules for two actions!

Grand Archive

NG female human rogue scholar-10 HP 118/118; hero 2/3; moderate healing potion 1/1; (heals 1hp/min) lv 1: 1/1; 2: 1/1; 3:1/1; AC 29(w/shield); F +18 (+1 vs inhaled toxins;Resilience); R +21(evasion); W +15; resist cold&electricity/3; Per +16; Stealth +18; mv 25'; Conditions: none

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