
Noctifer Umbria |

Putting on my min-max hat for a moment*, it would seem best if the character with the highest score take 10 for some reliable results, and the rest of us roll for a chance at better results.
*This phrase implies that the min-max hat actually comes off at some point. There is no guarantee that actually happens.
That was my thinking so if, for example, Noctifer takes 10 he might not know everything about the subject but at least he'll remember something so we have something to go on.

GM Ever_Anon |

Sounds good. In this case the min-maxing and stated preferences line up very well. Taking free inspiration into account Noctifer has the highest modifier on every single knowledge except History. (Which I haven't rolled for anyone yet. The module doesn't give any DCs for knowing about Nicasor, which I'm taking to mean it's just too obscure for any PCs to have prior knowledge about.)
So from now on I'll roll knowledges for everyone except Noctifer, who'll take 10. The exception will be Ussaile if, as in this case, I think it's something her patron might know or have interest in.

Noctifer Umbria |

Sounds good. In this case the min-maxing and stated preferences line up very well. Taking free inspiration into account Noctifer has the highest modifier on every single knowledge except History. (Which I haven't rolled for anyone yet. The module doesn't give any DCs for knowing about Nicasor, which I'm taking to mean it's just too obscure for any PCs to have prior knowledge about.)
So from now on I'll roll knowledges for everyone except Noctifer, who'll take 10. The exception will be Ussaile if, as in this case, I think it's something her patron might know or have interest in.
Well Nicasor was 1,000 years ago so that's, what, DC 50 or something? ;)

Jassminder Shah |

It sounds like the only thing we're agreed on is the need for a night's rest; other than that, we're split between those who want to enter the mirror and those who want to do something else first.
The GM mentioned a ghost that could potentially be made helpful and we haven't encountered her yet so - if you'll forgive the metagaming - it does sound like there's some additional things we can do before we enter the mirror and I'm definitely open to that.

Noctifer Umbria |

It sounds like the only thing we're agreed on is the need for a night's rest; other than that, we're split between those who want to enter the mirror and those who want to do something else first.
The GM mentioned a ghost that could potentially be made helpful and we haven't encountered her yet so - if you'll forgive the metagaming - it does sound like there's some additional things we can do before we enter the mirror and I'm definitely open to that.
Yes the ghost is Baron Stepan's Aunt. I'd like to see if she and/or Miklos have any information on the Midnight Mirror. The fey could 100% be a red herring but Noctifer isn't keen on entering something he might get stuck inside.

Xanther Coleson |

I have a suggestion for Jassminder. Since Nicasor is appearing to the Baron via dreams, she could try and block this by casting Keep Watch on the Baron. That way, he can rest without sleeping and maybe remember more stuff.

Jassminder Shah |

@Xanther - I've realised I didn't put spellcasting onto my character sheet, a mistake I will rectify. My plan was to prepare Divine Favour which gives a luck bonus, stacking with almost any other modifier. Keep Watch is a bit situational, although I like the idea in this instance!

Noctifer Umbria |

@Xanther - I've realised I didn't put spellcasting onto my character sheet, a mistake I will rectify. My plan was to prepare Divine Favour which gives a luck bonus, stacking with almost any other modifier. Keep Watch is a bit situational, although I like the idea in this instance!
Not to ruin the plan but to me it's almost impossible to beat Hero's Defiance for a Paladin's 1st level spell slot. Bless Weapon is a close second.

Jassminder Shah |

Ooh, I like Hero's Defiance! The only issue is that I get to use LoH offensively by turning them into extra Smite Evil; so I may not have any left when the time comes. Still, I will change up my spell when we rest tonight.
Thank you :)

Noctifer Umbria |

It's my birthday this weekend and I'm spending it away from the computer.
Please move ahead without me!
Happy Birthday! Hats & Horns!

Noctifer Umbria |

Ooh, I like Hero's Defiance! The only issue is that I get to use LoH offensively by turning them into extra Smite Evil; so I may not have any left when the time comes. Still, I will change up my spell when we rest tonight.
Thank you :)
I play a Paladin in PFS and he's also an Oath of Vengeance build. I always kept one (and now two) LoHs in reserve because Hero's Defiance is literally a lifesaver.

GM Ever_Anon |

@GM: The player not knowing the culture of Nidal, would it be more usual or unusual to do business this time of night? Ghosts don't generally need to sleep and I was thinking about seeing if the Baroness would assist the party in meeting Aunt Eugenia.
You learned from Ionela earlier that most people in Karpad go to bed early. Talking to Eugenia would be fine; Anya's still awake and as you said ghosts don't normally sleep. The two taverns are also still open. The loggers however are almost certainly already heading for bed.
Also, Happy Birthday Ussaile! I hope you have a fun weekend.

Noctifer Umbria |

Noctifer Umbria wrote:@GM: The player not knowing the culture of Nidal, would it be more usual or unusual to do business this time of night? Ghosts don't generally need to sleep and I was thinking about seeing if the Baroness would assist the party in meeting Aunt Eugenia.You learned from Ionela earlier that most people in Karpad go to bed early. Talking to Eugenia would be fine; Anya's still awake and as you said ghosts don't normally sleep. The two taverns are also still open. The loggers however are almost certainly already heading for bed.
Also, Happy Birthday Ussaile! I hope you have a fun weekend.
Thanks I couldn't remember. :)
So our choices are to talk to Aunt Eugenia or get some sleep. I'd recommend sleep.
Xanther Coleson |

It's my birthday this weekend and I'm spending it away from the computer.
Many happy returns!

GM Ever_Anon |

Breakfast is at 7am. Since Noctifer says he rose early I'll say he's been up since 6am. I'll also say his efforts in sorting the books combined with the specialized nature of the library will make research go faster. (You can research in 4-hour chunks instead of the standard 8.)
Does everyone want to stick together and spend the morning researching, or do some people want to do something else?

Xanther Coleson |

We have to test the Keep Watch spell first. But if it does work, I have a question:
In theory, Xanther has Craft Wondrous Item. Jassminder has Keep Watch. So they could collaboratively make a Page of Spell Knowledge of Keep Watch, which the Baroness as a Sorceress *should* be able to use.
In practice, the Spellcraft DC to craft even an L1 Page of Spell Knowledge is supposed to be Caster Level +5 or 22.
However, there is an FAQ ruling that for Pearls of Power, the crafter can lower the caster level to a minimum needed to cast the required spell, so a Pearl of Power 1, can have a caster level of 1.
Will you let this apply to Page of Spell Knowledge?

Jassminder Shah |

Jassminder will, despite her misgivings, cooperate on creating a page of Keep Watch if everyone else thinks it's a good plan.

Xanther Coleson |

We still need to test if it works first, before convincing the baroness to cough up the necessary gold.
What spells did Jassminder prepare today?

Marcus Nocturnus |

Headed to the Young Writer’s Workshop for the week. Not sure about connectivity as I am taking my camper. I will try to post from my phone though I may have a bad signal. Be back Friday evening.

Noctifer Umbria |

Headed to the Young Writer’s Workshop for the week. Not sure about connectivity as I am taking my camper. I will try to post from my phone though I may have a bad signal. Be back Friday evening.
Have fun!

Marcus Nocturnus |

I should be able to post, the conference center has good wifi

Noctifer Umbria |

I should be able to post, the conference center has good wifi
Excellent, now I can 'torment' you! When you wrote you were going to a 'Young Writer's Workshop', I expected a more verbose description...
;)
Marcus Nocturnus |

May kid's attending. I have a couple of parent presentations to attend and I am safety parent for a day.

Noctifer Umbria |

May kid's attending. I have a couple of parent presentations to attend and I am safety parent for a day.
I was hoping to get you to write stuff for me - foiled again!

Marcus Nocturnus |

I published a bit of non-fiction but my fictional allegory has not gotten off the ground yet.

Marcus Nocturnus |

No, a commentary on certain political issues.

Noctifer Umbria |

Academic Papers?
Grabs red ink pen...ready!

Marcus Nocturnus |

I did not, probably headed out to the courtyard to tidy it up.

Noctifer Umbria |

Sorry, I posted yesterday but it obviously didn't make it through Paizo's servers. Trying again!
The servers do get hungry.

Jassminder Shah |

Hi all
unfortunately I've come down with a bug, I won't be posting for another 12-24 hours or so at least. Please bot me as needed.

Noctifer Umbria |

Hi all
unfortunately I've come down with a bug, I won't be posting for another 12-24 hours or so at least. Please bot me as needed.
Ack! :( Get better soon!
I'll send the chicken noodle soup.
Marcus Nocturnus |

For throwing tanglefoot bags or any other alchemical device to help I have a +8 to hit with ranged attacks. That would leave Jassminder to twang arrows.

Noctifer Umbria |

Noctifer has a +7 to ranged attacks so he can also hurl one.
With 17 SR I don't give any of us a chance at penetrating that unless you have both feats.
DR/10 Cold Iron is no joke either; anyone who plans on fighting the fey who doesn't have a cold iron weapon needs to get one. Even if you do have one you may want to invest in a cold iron dagger and a wrist sheath in the case of a grapple.
Noctifer has a cold iron rapier but it isn't MW or magical. Hopefully we can find scrolls and/or oils of magic weapon for sale.
There's also some 'old school' remedies like a tanglefoot bag followed by bag(s) of flour to keep it visible.
I don't know how experienced all of you are with 3.X/Pathfinder so if you have a question about something Xanther, Noctifer, or Nadia revealed post it here so we can discuss it. :)
We should also 'budget' with the loot we have and see what we want to sell/trade for what items we need. Alchemical weapons are usually a great buy; a creature like this probably has a decent touch AC so it won't be easy.

Xanther Coleson |

I should point out that Glitterdust is SR:No. It's our best tool to counter invisibility in a fight.
Sadly, Faerie Fire is SR:Yes.
Xanther has Remove Fear.
My first concern is how to spot the thing to begin with. If Ussaile doesn't manage to find it within the time her See Invisibility is active, then we might have to get dogs or something.

GM Ever_Anon |

Good catch everyone! I was just, uh, testing you. Definitely didn’t forget to check if Glitterdust was susceptible to SR, no siree Bob.
To speed up the shopping (unless you want to roleplay it out), there is a 75% chance of any individual item 400gp or less being available. You can make your lists here in discussion, roll to see if they’re purchasable, and discuss alternatives if not. Does that sound good to everyone?

Ussaile Nyoxa |

Grappled creatures are also easier to see... Kind of.
A grappled creature cannot use Stealth to hide from the creature grappling it, even if a special ability, such as hide in plain sight, would normally allow it to do so. If a grappled creature becomes invisible, through a spell or other ability, it gains a +2 circumstance bonus on its CMD to avoid being grappled, but receives no other benefit.
But yeah Faerie Fire is not as good as Glitterdust. Darn Wizards getting all the good stuff!
@Xanther: I can prepare 2 See Invisibility spells, and a 3rd if I drop Cat's Grace but I feel like that one may be useful for raw numbers.