| Hayato Ken |
Hehe i wondered about it but automatically assumed it was some sort of input mistake from a mobile phone^^
I have some similar quarrels like you wanderer82, there's some stuff i really liked in 5e, but AE5 changes that up a lot it seems and now the options seem to be a bit meh in parts, or very niche.
Possibly interaction with the maneuvers outbalances that again, but don't have enough oversight to say so yet.
| BodaciousGaming |
Hi BodaciousGaming, I am still here, working my way slowly through the a5e rules. I've had minimal experience with basic 5e, so it's taking me a bit to wrap my mind around everything. Should hopefully today have submitted a human berserker, Though I'm still working out the archetype. I have been going back and forth between using a heavy, two-handed weapon, a weapon and shield, or two weapons, and trying to piece together all the differences. It looked like Great Weapon Master in 5E was a pretty awesome feat, but with its replacement in HIV giving disadvantage on the attack role, not sure it is really worth it. Any thoughts?
Great weapon master was a very powerful feat for 5e, and it’s A5E iteration IMO isn’t the most elegant replacement with regards to the second bulleted point.
In 5e the -5/+10 got pretty ridiculous when you had builds that were centered around maximizing DPR. Barbarians dipping fighter for action surge and possibly paladin for divine smite resulted in one or two round fights against the BBEG’s. Sharpshooter was arguably the more powerful feat because the archery fighting style offset part of the feat penalty. Neither one scaled amazingly well because taken at 4th level the to-hit was grueling, and at later levels with magic items it was almost universally an “auto-on” feature.
Disadvantage in my mind isn’t the most elegant replacement to the -5 to hit because there are so many features in the game that let you get advantage and cancel it out. It isn’t as prevalent as in 5e, so that’s probably their rationale. Things like flanking that in 5e would give advantage have been replaced to a large degree with expertise die. Disadvantage is also better or worse at the extremes. It’s almost not a penalty against lower AC enemies and against higher AC enemies it’s super punishing, even though Adv/DisAdv is normally abstracted to be ~ +/-5 on a die roll.
In past 5e games I’ve houserule fixed the penalty to hit and bonus damage to proficiency bonus. That way it scales with level to an extent. For example a character of our starting level would take a -3 to hit and gain a +6 to damage. I really don’t see where it would break the system to make that change here, as it worked well enough in 5e. I might regret that decision if there is a bunch of unintended ways to increase your to-hit through expertise dice stacking and such, but we can cross that bridge when we get there.
| ElbowtotheFace |
Level 5 Fighter
Heritage: Orc
Culture: Stoic Orc
Background: Soldier
Destiny: Wealth
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Speed 30 feet, Climb 30ft
Languages: Common, Orc, Goblin
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STR 18 DEX 13 CON 18 INT 9 WIS 16 CHA 11
Trained saved STR/ CON
HP: 58
HD: 5d10+4
Fatigue 0, Strife 0
AC 19 (Splint + Med. Shield)
Proficiency:
Armor: light, medium, heavy armor, shields
Weapons: Simple and Martial
Skills: Athletics, Perception
Tools: Dice
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Melee: +1 Longsword +8 (1d8+5)
Ranged: Shortbow +4 (1d6)
Feats:
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Acrobatics (T)
Animal handling(T)
Arcana
Athletics (T)
Culture
Deception
Engineering
History
Insight (T)
Intimidation
Investigation
Medicine
Nature
Perception (T)
Performance
Persuasion
Religion
Sleight of hand
Stealth
Survival
Orc Traits: Darkvision, Heavy Lifter, Mighty Attacks
Orcish Gift: Ancestral Blessing (Resistance Radiant, Cast Shield 1/long rest)
Stoic Orc: Clarity of Mind (Adv. On saves vs Charmed/Frightened), Stoic Traditions (insight), Ritual Focus (Find Familiar, Alarm)
Soldier: +1 Str/Con, Athletics and Animal Handling, Dice Proficiency, Language: Goblin, Connection: The scary experimental war construct I accompanied on a dangerous mission, Military Bearing
Wealth: Profits, Everyone has a price
Gear: Longsword, Shortbow, Arrows, Medium Shield, Splint mail, 2 potions of healing,
Fighter Features:
Fighting Style - Tireless Fighting
Combat Maneuvers (Adamant Mountain, Razor's Edge)
Soldiering Knack - Stable Footing, Weather Beaten
Steely Mein - Watchful Eye
Maneuver Specialization
Martial Archetype: Brute
Ability score improvement +1 Str/Con
Reserves (1)
Extra Attack
There's something perplexing about him, perhaps it's the palpable passions burning under a stoic façade, or simply his quit contemplativeness, but nonetheless, people tend to befriend him, while spreading stories about him.
A former soldier turned adventurer, Xulgag had made his way to the Vale seeking his fortune, after sticking his neck out for kings a few too many times for far too little coin.
He was born a wild and fiery child, learning to use arms and armor from the moment he could walk. He was prone to fits of violence far beyond normal orc youth. Normally this would be celebrated amongst his clan but at times it was too much. In order temper his spirit, Xulgag was taken to a Stoic Landing and went through the quelling ritual.
The ritual helped him control his passions but didn’t end them completely the way the rite is intended. Xulgag left the landing within a few months to seek a life of passion and violence, albeit a more controlled life of passion and violence.
| BodaciousGaming |
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Welcome to the party. I’ll be throwing the intro post up tonight. The only thing I saw on your profile is that I’m giving every a free starting feat, so feel free to take one. Details are a little further up in the thread, or the synopsis in in the general campaign information.
| Speaker of the Vale |
So apparently I "broke" the gameplay thread by "dotting in" and deleting the first post. Until customer service can help I've created a new gameplay thread HERE. Let's not let the technical glitching slow us down. I've posted a little scene for now and will hook everyone in. My long term hope is that customer service can unset the broken thread from the campaign and let me set the new thread to it. Right now it won't let me unpair the thread from the campaign like it will let me do with discussion thread or recruitment thread. I'll be troubleshooting it for now, but there are a number of places I've placed the link.
I'll be additionally linking everyone the new thread in their PM's.
| Speaker of the Vale |
What good are the deceptive stance and painful pickpocket maneuvers in combat or overall?
When and for what do you make a deception or sleight of hand check in combat?
Mist and shade more than the others is a pretty situational and fiat based tradition. I’m willing to work to make what you find fairly interesting, so long as it’s understood that the majority of what you’d pilfer is going to be relatively mundane, with enough of it being interesting or powerful to make it worth the attempt or exertion spend.
The bestiary fortunately provides loot recommendations so there’s at least some guidance in what enemies might carry.
| Speaker of the Vale |
Not yet finished, but getting somewhere.
There's really a lot of moving parts with this character.
Need to get some more maneuvers, equipment etc. and all the skill stuff.
I was looking through the equipment you’ve selected under your profile, and perhaps it’s a function of it still being a work in progress, but I noticed you had selected padded leather +1 as well as a cloak of protection. The cost of those two magic items exceeds the 700 gp starting wealth. Can you adjust it to have only one of those two items purchased?
| Speaker of the Vale |
Sure! Gonna go with the cloak.
Magic weapon is too expensive as well then right?
You can start with a +1 weapon OR a +1 spellcasting focus for free at creation. The rest needs to be bought with your 700 gp starting allowance.
Keep in mind anything you’d like to purchase or discover throughout the adventure.
| Hayato Ken |
Kana Cherryblossom wrote:Sure! Gonna go with the cloak.
Magic weapon is too expensive as well then right?You can start with a +1 weapon OR a +1 spellcasting focus for free at creation. The rest needs to be bought with your 700 gp starting allowance.
Keep in mind anything you’d like to purchase or discover throughout the adventure.
That's cool!
Could you say something to the above questions about size and Point Blank Shot though?
The character is somewhat experimental, relying on trip for sneak attack.
Can also sneak and hide i guess, that's why i want to know about size.
Also, is there something like a returning dagger? That could be kind of crucial in the long run.
| Speaker of the Vale |
Speaker of the Vale wrote:Kana Cherryblossom wrote:Sure! Gonna go with the cloak.
Magic weapon is too expensive as well then right?You can start with a +1 weapon OR a +1 spellcasting focus for free at creation. The rest needs to be bought with your 700 gp starting allowance.
Keep in mind anything you’d like to purchase or discover throughout the adventure.
That's cool!
Could you say something to the above questions about size and Point Blank Shot though?
The character is somewhat experimental, relying on trip for sneak attack.
Can also sneak and hide i guess, that's why i want to know about size.Also, is there something like a returning dagger? That could be kind of crucial in the long run.
So with regards to size, there doesn’t seem to be any blanket list of things that small creatures suffer or benefit from over medium or large creatures. The rules I’ve managed to come across in their respective sections are disadvantage on wielding heavy weapons, as well as specific benefits the halfling and gnome heritages gain as a trade off for their speed penalty. There are rules for creature sizes in relation to each other, which are too numerous to list out in a post. It would simply be too tedious to compile and be a real bore of a read. When they come up I’ll try and highlight them and let you potentially retcon a decision the first time it comes up.
For point blank shot, I can’t see as written where the disengage action precludes the shot from happening. It’s not described as an opportunity attack, so it point blank shot isn’t affected by disengaging.
I don’t see a returning dagger available as a magic item, although I’ll keep an eye out for other items or ideas that you can encounter for purchase.