GM Elberion's Broken Chains
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Game Master
GeraintElberion
Maps & Handouts
”Zadim” | Male N Medium Human Slayer 7 | Speed 30ft | Active Conditions: none Skills: Acrobatics +13, Bluff +3, Climb +10, Disguise +8, Heal +4, Intimidate +3 (+4 by day), Know (dungeoneering, geography) +5, Know (local) +11, Know (religion) +6, Ride +7, Stealth +13, Survival +10 (+13 for tracks), Swim +10
AC 20, T 14, FF 17 | CMD 26 | F +7 R +9 W +5; | Init +3 | Perc +10 | SM +10
Zadim will attempt to study the approaching creature.
Studied target, if possible?
He then draws his kukri and prepares to strike.
Ready an attack if the creature attacks him on an adjacent ally.
”Zadim” | Male N Medium Human Slayer 7 | Speed 30ft | Active Conditions: none Skills: Acrobatics +13, Bluff +3, Climb +10, Disguise +8, Heal +4, Intimidate +3 (+4 by day), Know (dungeoneering, geography) +5, Know (local) +11, Know (religion) +6, Ride +7, Stealth +13, Survival +10 (+13 for tracks), Swim +10
AC 20, T 14, FF 17 | CMD 26 | F +7 R +9 W +5; | Init +3 | Perc +10 | SM +10
Zadim will attempt to study the approaching creature.
Studied target, if possible?
He then draws his kukri and prepares to strike.
Ready an attack if the creature attacks him on an adjacent ally.
Male Grippli Rng 6| HP 42 | AC 22; Touch 17; FF 17 | F +6; R +10; W +5 | CMB+6; CMD 22| Speed 30 ft | Init +4 | Perc +11 | Stealth: +14 Ranger 6
Kermit will ready an attack on the nearest bad guy with his bow.
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Three strange, horned creatures appear.
Schir Noise Round 1 wrote:
Everyone expect Brallenera and Othine
Creatures
Brallenera and Othine
Bold are up!
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Round one of combat. See Slide 3 of the map.
Male Half-Orc Ex-Cleric 1 / Spiritualist(Phantom Blade) 6 (HP 38/52) (AC 21/11/20) (CMD 20) (Fort +13, Ref +7, Will +15) (Init +1) (Perception +20)
Victor strides forward, and swings at Red!
+2 Ghost-Touch Fauchard: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (12) + 9 = 21 , for 1d10 + 15 ⇒ (6) + 15 = 21 damage.
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Victor strikes true and cuts deeply, but not as deeply as he might have expected, into the creature.
”Zadim” | Male N Medium Human Slayer 7 | Speed 30ft | Active Conditions: none Skills: Acrobatics +13, Bluff +3, Climb +10, Disguise +8, Heal +4, Intimidate +3 (+4 by day), Know (dungeoneering, geography) +5, Know (local) +11, Know (religion) +6, Ride +7, Stealth +13, Survival +10 (+13 for tracks), Swim +10
AC 20, T 14, FF 17 | CMD 26 | F +7 R +9 W +5; | Init +3 | Perc +10 | SM +10
Zadim moves forward, studying this newly-arrived foe, and brings his blades to bear.
Studied target on red
Melee (+1 kukri), ST: 1d20 + 13 + 2 ⇒ (16) + 13 + 2 = 31
Damage (S): 1d4 + 7 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 7 + 2 = 11
Melee (+1 kukri), ST: 1d20 + 8 + 2 ⇒ (11) + 8 + 2 = 21
Damage (S): 1d4 + 7 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 7 + 2 = 11
Female N Elf Psychic 5 | HP 32/32| AC 15 T 12 FF 10 | CMB +2, CMD 14 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +4 (+6 vs enchantments) | Init: +4 | Perc: +5, SM: +3 | Speed 30ft | Phrenic Pool: 2/4 | Spells: 1st 0/8, 2nd 3/5 | Active conditions: None. 4
Knowledge (planes): 1d20 + 18 ⇒ (4) + 18 = 22
DR, immunities, resistances
Nanny will move up and cast murderous command (DC 17) on the top demon.
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Zadim and Victor injure the red-furred creature.
will: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (12) + 3 = 15
While another’s eyes glaze over.
Female N Elf Psychic 5 | HP 32/32| AC 15 T 12 FF 10 | CMB +2, CMD 14 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +4 (+6 vs enchantments) | Init: +4 | Perc: +5, SM: +3 | Speed 30ft | Phrenic Pool: 2/4 | Spells: 1st 0/8, 2nd 3/5 | Active conditions: None. 4
"Your bog standard goat demon--use cold iron or good weapons. They're immune to electricity and poison, and tresist cold, fire, and acid."
male Human Chirurgeon 8 AC20(24)/T15(19)/F16/CMD17 |HP 67/67 | Fort:+11;Ref:+13;Will+6 |Percept.+12 | Init.+10 (1/1 mutagen: used bombs 11/15 used) wings 2/7min {heroism, cues, endure elements, shield, mutagen}
Isn't that just lovely. Roderick calls out to Nanny's warning, trying to determine the best way to fight the beasts.
He mixes a quick concoction to drink (STR mutagen) and then hefts his cold-iron longspear as he moves between Nanny and Kermit.
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Female Dwarf Barbarian (Invulnerable Rager) 10 I HP 78 (Rage:98)/122 I AC 23 T12 FF22 Fort+13 Ref+6 Wi+6 Ini +1 Per +8 spd 30 DR4/- CLW Wand 50/50 RAGE! used 0/24
Know Planes: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (16) + 4 = 20
Best save and AC
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Brallenera Thalkham wrote:
[dice=Know Planes]1d20+4
Best save and AC
Male Grippli Rng 6| HP 42 | AC 22; Touch 17; FF 17 | F +6; R +10; W +5 | CMB+6; CMD 22| Speed 30 ft | Init +4 | Perc +11 | Stealth: +14 Ranger 6
Kermit fires at the goat thing. "Nanny I forgot to get cold iron *shoot*"
He turns to his lizard friend.
"Geico stay here and bite it if it comes near us!"
rapid shot point blank +1 magic: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (15) + 12 = 27
damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (5) + 3 = 8
rapid shot point blank +1 magic: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (5) + 12 = 17
damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (5) + 3 = 8
rapid shot point blank +1 magic: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (14) + 7 = 21
damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (1) + 3 = 4
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The red-furred Schir rolls its wild eyes and swings its halberd at Zadim, then tries to gore him with its twisted horns.
halberd attack: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (10) + 10 = 20
damage: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6
gore: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (5) + 3 = 8
damage: 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (5) + 1 = 6
The halberd blade is gross.
The schir with metallic horns responds to Nanny's command and charges at its ally.
halberd attack: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (13) + 10 = 23
damage: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (5) + 4 = 9
Wounded and snarling, the rune-etched schir moves away and casts a spell on itself.
Schir Noise Round 1/2 wrote:
Victor
Zadim (-6)
Nanny
Kermit
Xim
Red-furred Schir (-31)
Brallenera
Othine
Bold are up!
Othine steps forward and swings for the rune schir.
attack: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (1) + 10 = 11
damage: 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 2 = 4
Male Half-Orc Ex-Cleric 1 / Spiritualist(Phantom Blade) 6 (HP 38/52) (AC 21/11/20) (CMD 20) (Fort +13, Ref +7, Will +15) (Init +1) (Perception +20)
Implacably, Victor tries to finish-off Red!
+2 Ghost-Touch Fauchard: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (9) + 11 = 20 , for 1d10 + 9 ⇒ (9) + 9 = 18 damage.
As always, I ignore the cover my ally provides.
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Victor kills the red-furred schir. It’s body slump to the floor and rapidly decomposes.
male Human Chirurgeon 8 AC20(24)/T15(19)/F16/CMD17 |HP 67/67 | Fort:+11;Ref:+13;Will+6 |Percept.+12 | Init.+10 (1/1 mutagen: used bombs 11/15 used) wings 2/7min {heroism, cues, endure elements, shield, mutagen}
Roderick will step up and stab at the same creature as Othine
Good show, Victor!
Cold Iron longspear, STR: 1d20 + 5 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 5 + 2 = 24 dmg : 1d8 + 1 + 3 ⇒ (1) + 1 + 3 = 5
Human Cleric 7 [HP 59/59 ], [AC 19, touch 11, flat-footed 19] , [Fort +7, Ref +4, Will +10], [Spd 20ft, Perception +4]
Kyra moves to Brallenera and casts guidance on her.
(I'm not in init order :3)
Female Dwarf Barbarian (Invulnerable Rager) 10 I HP 78 (Rage:98)/122 I AC 23 T12 FF22 Fort+13 Ref+6 Wi+6 Ini +1 Per +8 spd 30 DR4/- CLW Wand 50/50 RAGE! used 0/24
Now that one adversary has been vanquished, Brallenera fearlessly attacks the farthest foe, hoping her magical axe will do some damage
attack, Guidance: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (11) + 10 = 21
Dmg: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (6) + 4 = 10
Awww, you're to shy to come to me?
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Apologies, GM Doofus!
Roderick and Brallenera, with Kyra's help, strike true.
Schir Noise Round 1/2 wrote:
Zadim (-6)
Nanny
Kermit
Red-furred Schir (-43, dead)
Brallenera
Bold are up!
Female N Elf Psychic 5 | HP 32/32| AC 15 T 12 FF 10 | CMB +2, CMD 14 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +4 (+6 vs enchantments) | Init: +4 | Perc: +5, SM: +3 | Speed 30ft | Phrenic Pool: 2/4 | Spells: 1st 0/8, 2nd 3/5 | Active conditions: None. 4
Nanny gives a small snort and stomps her foot on the earth, sending a shockwave at the metallic-horned demon. Casts thunderstomp.
Trip vs CMD: 1d20 + 5 + 4 ⇒ (12) + 5 + 4 = 21
Male Grippli Rng 6| HP 42 | AC 22; Touch 17; FF 17 | F +6; R +10; W +5 | CMB+6; CMD 22| Speed 30 ft | Init +4 | Perc +11 | Stealth: +14 Ranger 6
Kermit shoots again.
rapid shot point blank +1 magic: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (20) + 12 = 32
damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (4) + 3 = 7
crit confirm: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (13) + 12 = 25
damage: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (3, 2) + 6 = 11
rapid shot point blank +1 magic: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (11) + 12 = 23
damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (4) + 3 = 7
rapid shot point blank +1 magic: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (13) + 7 = 20
damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (5) + 3 = 8
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The shockwave ripples under the creature's feet and it tips back onto its rear. This actually saves it from one of Kermit's arrows, but one still strikes true.
Schir Noise Round 1/2 wrote:
Zadim (-6)
Red-furred Schir (-43, dead)
Brallenera
Bold are up!
”Zadim” | Male N Medium Human Slayer 7 | Speed 30ft | Active Conditions: none Skills: Acrobatics +13, Bluff +3, Climb +10, Disguise +8, Heal +4, Intimidate +3 (+4 by day), Know (dungeoneering, geography) +5, Know (local) +11, Know (religion) +6, Ride +7, Stealth +13, Survival +10 (+13 for tracks), Swim +10
AC 20, T 14, FF 17 | CMD 26 | F +7 R +9 W +5; | Init +3 | Perc +10 | SM +10
Fortitude (DC 14): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (17) + 7 = 24
Shaking off the effects of the deplorable grime on his foe's blade, Zadim steps past his freshly-fallen foe, skirting the rocks in an effort to outflank his opponents.
Double move; path noted on map
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The Schirr on the ground lashes out wildly from the floor, striking for Brallenera...
attack: 1d20 + 1 - 4 ⇒ (2) + 1 - 4 = -1
damage: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (9) + 4 = 13
and Zadim
gore attack: 1d20 + 3 - 4 ⇒ (13) + 3 - 4 = 12
damage: 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (5) + 1 = 6
While the rune-marked Schir attacks Othine.
attack: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (15) + 10 = 25
damage: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (3) + 4 = 7
gore attack: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (9) + 3 = 12
damage: 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2
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Wounded, Othine strikes back.
attack: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (18) + 10 = 28
damage: 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 2 = 4
attack: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (14) + 5 = 19
damage: 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (5) + 2 = 7
The demon shrugs off her assault.
Schir Noise Round 2/3 wrote:
Victor
Zadim (-6)
Nanny
Kermit
Xim
Kyra
Red-furred Schir (-43, dead)
Brallenera
Bold are up!
Male Half-Orc Ex-Cleric 1 / Spiritualist(Phantom Blade) 6 (HP 38/52) (AC 21/11/20) (CMD 20) (Fort +13, Ref +7, Will +15) (Init +1) (Perception +20)
Victor moves forward into a flanking position with Zadim, and takes a powerful swing at metallic-horns!
+2 Ghost-Touch Fauchard: 1d20 + 9 + 4 + 2 ⇒ (11) + 9 + 4 + 2 = 26 , for 1d10 + 15 ⇒ (6) + 15 = 21 damage.
Male Grippli Rng 6| HP 42 | AC 22; Touch 17; FF 17 | F +6; R +10; W +5 | CMB+6; CMD 22| Speed 30 ft | Init +4 | Perc +11 | Stealth: +14 Ranger 6
Kermit shoots at the nearest demon.
rapid shot point blank +1 magic: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (5) + 12 = 17
damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (6) + 3 = 9
rapid shot point blank +1 magic: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (6) + 12 = 18
damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (1) + 3 = 4
rapid shot point blank +1 magic: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (6) + 7 = 13
damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (1) + 3 = 4
Human Cleric 7 [HP 59/59 ], [AC 19, touch 11, flat-footed 19] , [Fort +7, Ref +4, Will +10], [Spd 20ft, Perception +4]
Kyra moves towards Roderick, drawing her own scimitar just in case, and taps him with guidance.
Female Dwarf Barbarian (Invulnerable Rager) 10 I HP 78 (Rage:98)/122 I AC 23 T12 FF22 Fort+13 Ref+6 Wi+6 Ini +1 Per +8 spd 30 DR4/- CLW Wand 50/50 RAGE! used 0/24
Brallenera shows no mercy to her fallen foe
Attack on prone: 1d20 + 10 + 4 ⇒ (18) + 10 + 4 = 32
Dmg: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (5) + 4 = 9
2d attack: 1d20 + 5 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 5 + 4 = 13
Dmg: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (5) + 4 = 9
Aww.. get up if you dare!
”Zadim” | Male N Medium Human Slayer 7 | Speed 30ft | Active Conditions: none Skills: Acrobatics +13, Bluff +3, Climb +10, Disguise +8, Heal +4, Intimidate +3 (+4 by day), Know (dungeoneering, geography) +5, Know (local) +11, Know (religion) +6, Ride +7, Stealth +13, Survival +10 (+13 for tracks), Swim +10
AC 20, T 14, FF 17 | CMD 26 | F +7 R +9 W +5; | Init +3 | Perc +10 | SM +10
Seizing the opportunity, Zadim quickly steps into the flank and unleashes his blades.
Five foot step; Full attack
Melees (+1 kukri), flank: 1d20 + 13 + 2 + 2 ⇒ (14) + 13 + 2 + 2 = 31
Damage (S): 1d4 + 7 ⇒ (3) + 7 = 10
Melees (+1 kukri), flank: 1d20 + 8 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 8 + 2 = 27
Damage (S): 1d4 + 7 ⇒ (3) + 7 = 10
Melees (+1 kukri), flank : 1d20 + 13 + 2 ⇒ (12) + 13 + 2 = 27
Damage (S): 1d4 + 7 ⇒ (2) + 7 = 9
Melees (+1 kukri), flank: 1d20 + 8 + 2 ⇒ (14) + 8 + 2 = 24
Damage (S): 1d4 + 7 ⇒ (4) + 7 = 11
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I moved Victor into position. I should have made it clear that the fungus does not affect movement.
Victor strikes the prone foe.
Kermit's volley of arrows all skitter off the cave walls.
Roderick feels the presence of Kyra's goddess.
Brallenera makes a hit on her foe.
Then Zadim finishes off the goat-demon with a flurry of strikes.
Schir Noise Round 2/3 wrote:
Nanny
Xim (guidance)
Red-furred Schir (-43, dead)
Metallic-horns Schir (-45, dead)
Brallenera
Bold are up!
Male Half-Orc Ex-Cleric 1 / Spiritualist(Phantom Blade) 6 (HP 38/52) (AC 21/11/20) (CMD 20) (Fort +13, Ref +7, Will +15) (Init +1) (Perception +20)
I was in position at the time I posted - Zadim stepped *out* of a flank with me, and into a flank with Brallenera on his action.
male Human Chirurgeon 8 AC20(24)/T15(19)/F16/CMD17 |HP 67/67 | Fort:+11;Ref:+13;Will+6 |Percept.+12 | Init.+10 (1/1 mutagen: used bombs 11/15 used) wings 2/7min {heroism, cues, endure elements, shield, mutagen}
Roderick will try stabbing with his long spear.
lcold iron, guide, STR, longspear: 1d20 + 2 + 1 + 5 ⇒ (13) + 2 + 1 + 5 = 21 dmg : 1d8 + 3 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 3 + 1 = 8
Female N Elf Psychic 5 | HP 32/32| AC 15 T 12 FF 10 | CMB +2, CMD 14 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +4 (+6 vs enchantments) | Init: +4 | Perc: +5, SM: +3 | Speed 30ft | Phrenic Pool: 2/4 | Spells: 1st 0/8, 2nd 3/5 | Active conditions: None. 4
Nanny will cast magic missile at the remaining demon.
Magic Missile: 3d4 + 3 ⇒ (4, 3, 3) + 3 = 13
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I forgot, they have spell resistance: roll to penetrate.
Female N Elf Psychic 5 | HP 32/32| AC 15 T 12 FF 10 | CMB +2, CMD 14 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +4 (+6 vs enchantments) | Init: +4 | Perc: +5, SM: +3 | Speed 30ft | Phrenic Pool: 2/4 | Spells: 1st 0/8, 2nd 3/5 | Active conditions: None. 4
Caster Level Check: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (4) + 5 = 9
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The remaining demon gibbers excitedly and attacks Othine once more.
attack: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (11) + 10 = 21
damage: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (10) + 4 = 14
gore: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (9) + 3 = 12
damage: 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 = 3
Othine gasps in pain and swings back.
attack: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (20) + 10 = 30
damage: 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (7) + 2 = 9
attack: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (20) + 5 = 25
damage: 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (7) + 2 = 9
crit 1: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (20) + 10 = 30
damage: 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (3) + 2 = 5
crit 2: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (1) + 5 = 6
damage: 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (1) + 2 = 3
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Othine lands solid blows on the fiend.
Schir Noise Round 2/3 wrote:
Victor
Zadim (-6)
Nanny
Kermit
Xim
Kyra
Red-furred Schir (-43, dead)
Metallic-horns Schir (-45, dead)
Brallenera
Bold are up!
Female Dwarf Barbarian (Invulnerable Rager) 10 I HP 78 (Rage:98)/122 I AC 23 T12 FF22 Fort+13 Ref+6 Wi+6 Ini +1 Per +8 spd 30 DR4/- CLW Wand 50/50 RAGE! used 0/24
Awww, one last to kill.. Let's cut him down, Double-Blades!
Brallenera moves to the last target and strikes, nodding to Zadim to follow her
Attack: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (13) + 10 = 23
dmg: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (3) + 4 = 7
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Despite its unnatural resilience, Brallenera does more damage to the demon.
Male Half-Orc Ex-Cleric 1 / Spiritualist(Phantom Blade) 6 (HP 38/52) (AC 21/11/20) (CMD 20) (Fort +13, Ref +7, Will +15) (Init +1) (Perception +20)
Implacable as the rising tide, Victor trudges forward into a flank, and takes a swing at the remaining goat demon.
+2 Ghost-Touch Fauchard: 1d20 + 11 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 11 + 2 = 19 , for 1d10 + 9 ⇒ (10) + 9 = 19 Magical Ghost-Touch Slashing damage.
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And Victor finishes off the last schir demon!
No treasure except for MW halberds. Next post soon but right now you are in a tunnel, after continuing on for a hundred feet you round a bend and can speak once more as the fungi cease their wailing.
Female N Elf Psychic 5 | HP 32/32| AC 15 T 12 FF 10 | CMB +2, CMD 14 | F: +3, R: +4, W: +4 (+6 vs enchantments) | Init: +4 | Perc: +5, SM: +3 | Speed 30ft | Phrenic Pool: 2/4 | Spells: 1st 0/8, 2nd 3/5 | Active conditions: None. 4
"If this a cult of Lamashtu, expect more demons on our way." Nanny gives the fallen monsters a cursory glance and heads onward into the tunnels.
Human Cleric 7 [HP 59/59 ], [AC 19, touch 11, flat-footed 19] , [Fort +7, Ref +4, Will +10], [Spd 20ft, Perception +4]
Kyra nods with a serious expression.
"Indeed. Stay vigilant, everyone."
male Human Chirurgeon 8 AC20(24)/T15(19)/F16/CMD17 |HP 67/67 | Fort:+11;Ref:+13;Will+6 |Percept.+12 | Init.+10 (1/1 mutagen: used bombs 11/15 used) wings 2/7min {heroism, cues, endure elements, shield, mutagen}
”If that is indeed true, I will need to contemplate bombs to affect these demons. “
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Othine tries to close her wounds.
clw: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (3) + 4 = 7
clw: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6
clw: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 4 = 8
