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Heh. I'd be more than little hypocritical for me to criticize reading :P (although I do have fun playing a character who's completely uninterested in it!)
I'd just like to add that the 'do-it-by-yourself' approach to finding solutions and the 'lonely genius' archetype is often not how it works. Everyone has blind spots, and you need someone else's perspective to identify your own failings - a bit like trying to see on the back of your own head. And the best way to reach accurate conclusions is, as Stephen Hawking put it best, by standing on the shoulders of giants : nothing comes out of nothing. Yay for teamwork!
I think that Intelligence is remembering everything that you know on a particular subject, structuring your arguments in a way that makes sense, and seeing how you could make a breakthrough with an original theory that hasn't been explored yet. But Wisdom would tell you what biases you have, what information you're missing, and how someone else's completely different perspective might be useful for your own.
Damn, we're having highly philosophical discussions on this Pathfinder game!
I remember a discussion long ago about the value of "tabula rasa", at least for a particular topic. The pro was that as you learn you limit yourself. The value of ignorance then is that you don't limit your learning to things that you already know, and perhaps you will see things from a different angle. You might even find that you learned something that is wrong.
If I'm not mistaken, a good part of intelligence is pattern recognition. How well and fast you can recognize patterns in things. Education helps to know a lot of patterns that you can find in other things too. But that knowledge doesn't change your intelligence a lot. As I heard intelligence itself (as meassured in intelligence tests) isn't trainable beyond getting more familiar with the test methods but that doesn't change the result significantly.
As for wisdom I have another definition derived from the bible: Wisdom is to know for a situation what the right thing to do is and then actually doing it.
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I've heard another definition from studying Hebrew theology a bit (though I'm not religious): chokmah, or Wisdom designated not just the capacity to know, but the capacity to doubt that you think you know is true.
The Jewish faith considers that there is no single 'true' interpretation of the holy texts; only relevant theories that must be studied together and contrasted to get the fullest perspective possible. I quite like a definition of wisdom that focuses on discussion, debate, and contrasting evidence!
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Well, someone stating that they have the one and only truth that is not up to debate is either a sure sign of a god, which should come with some more indicators about godhood. Or it is the signature characteristic of unblemished stupidity.
I pondered adding that often you have at least at one person on top, that fully knows that it is b@+*$##& and makes use of the stupidity of the others.
But we might also live in a world like the experiment with the ten apes in a cage.
Where in the middle are babanas on top of a ladder, but once any ape steps on the ladder the whole cage is doused in ice cold water. So no ape ever gets to the bananas, and even if one would think it to be worth it, the others would grab him and beat him up for it. Then the water is turned off and one ape is replaced. That ape sees the bananas and goes for them, which earns him a proper beating. Then another ape is replaced. That one also goes for the bananas and gets beaten by 8 original apes, as well as the one replaced ape who doesn't know why it is consensus not to go for the banans. By and by all apes are replaced, the ritual of beating up any ape who wants to go for the bananas is still practiced, even though there is no reason anymore and not a single ape knows why it started in the first place.
That is a terrible ape story! Sadly I can imagine it actually being a real study, and justified because they were "just stupid animals". Even though that is proven false by them learning to not go for the bananas.
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That is a terrible ape story! Sadly I can imagine it actually being a real study, and justified because they were "just stupid animals". Even though that is proven false by them learning to not go for the bananas.
It's only an imagined experiment, thankfully!
But yeah, we prove better than apes that we sometimes follow rules for no other good reason than 'I was told to'.
'Not my job' is also a well known answer to the question why something is executed in a specific way and not improved/changed/dismissed.
Standard NPC stats:
13, 12, 11, 10, 9, and 8, +2 on one of them for being human.
Tarjun stats:
14, 10, 10, 10, 8, 17
Some proverb with bricks and glass houses comes to mind. ;)
Feel free to bot me if needed!
Tarjun reconsidered marriage and Clara and Tarjun lived happily ever after. :P
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Okay! I've wiped the tears from my eyes from laughing so hard.... Careful what you offer. I played in one game years ago, if you fell asleep your character became the 'trap detector' for the group, until you died or woke up! Your body was carried along and raised once you woke up. Back then you didn't lose a level, just 1 point of Con. And there were ways to magically raise your Con back up.
But you lived happily forever after!?! Jewel and both parents cried at the wedding! But we couldn't detect any charm magic.
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Hmm... Int 10, Wis 8. ?? But Cha 17? I hadn't checked Tarjun's CS. He'd be a really charismatic lumberjack! Might have Clara and Jewel fighting over him!
Happy Turkey Day!
Our Thanksgiving was already two months ago and it isn't a big thing here.
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Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. Good food, family and friends, and usually almost no drama! We hosted this year so it was a lot of work, cleaning up and setting up for the horde, and cleaning up after. I understand better now why my mother turned the hosting over to my sister when she got older. At my age now I wish I had a responsible child that I could turn it all over to....