The Root of All Evil

Game Master Edward Sobel

Huh. Never mind then.
You'd think they would, since mundane science can do it.
Oh well. *shrugs.*

Hey, guys. I should be able to get back on board tomorrow. It'll be later on in the day, but should be tomorrow. :)

You'd need around 4th level spells

We can cut a few fingers off the Dmpc's (Sam's) hand, if the statue doesn't work.

We could do that, yes. How many fingers do we need?

Sorry for my absence. Life had been messy here. I posted yesterday, but it seems Paizo ate it.

its cool I wasn't going to let the party mutilate your character.

you only need to remove the pointer finger to match the hand print.

What penalties would that give?
-2 to climb and disable device?

will have to look some stuff up on that not really sure.

Same as the Misbegotten drawback, I'd say. On a related note, I would like a gritty horror campaign where you actually do things like that. But I don't know if this is that campaign.

So, is someone planning on breaking the statue or should we continue? Tatsuo is neither inclined nor the best suited for it.

I am wondering the same thing.

will someone decide and do something?

If someone tells me to I'll chop it off with my sword

I don't think sword would be a good idea on stone. Even if you did bash it off with the weight of it, the blade would get way messed up. :/

My hardness is higher than it's

As for the sword, you can use the pommel to whack the hand.

Things have been moving along a bit slowly at some point. . If such is needed, Letha will be acting as a "leader" of the party.

this group needs a leader -- badly -- everyone is standing around waiting for someone else to give directions.

we will never get anywhere like this.

Tatsuo has started to take some initiative.

will give some time to respond otherwise I will go with his actions and you loose out on whats in the current room (for now)

well I'm not removing any fingers, especially until such a time as I find out what that'll effect
double especially if we don't have a way to reduce the pain and cauterize/heal the wound

Hey guys, I have to drop out of the campaign. Too many real life duties now. :( Have fun!

well that is too bad, I really enjoyed your character.

we may have lost Tenebral as well but I am not sure on him.

before progressing...any suggestions?

If we open recruitment for some replacements then they will just fall right into where you are now as if they were always with you (it seems the easiest way since you guys really have not progressed super far.

Ya...
I think Tenebral might just be busy...
I liked her. :(

we could do gestalt with the current characters, it would cut down on time not spent actually playing, I'd mix with bard if we did this.

I would prefer more players actually

Aww, I liked Mrimmy. :-(

What do you mean by "gestalt with the current characters"? From context I'm guessing you mean multi-class to fill the roles that would be missing...?

Also, in regards to the spoiler that says "big hint from the DM," who's supposed to be looking at that? People who make the knowledge role?

anyone can look at the spoiler. I am being generous in giving a hint for your situation

I don't think I can use a long sword, so...
Gestalt is a little different from multiclass. Think of it as two separate classes you take the best of both from.
Is it really just like that?
No.
But if it helps, yes.

I would actually kind of like gestalt for this too. Oddly enough, I'm more familiar with gestalt rules than basic ones... XD
I like it either way, though. :)
I'm not sure what Mickey would be if this was gestalt... hmm...

well yeah, and I'd prefer not to have long breaks, you asked for suggestions, that usually strongly implies asking "hey does anyone have a different opinion than me" I do, so I suggested.
I'm not trying to be rude, if we don't go this route I won't be offended I'm just stating my preferance as it was asked]
I've had this build in mind for a while and I would really like to see it in action, but if it doesn't turn out that way I would be all right with that

I am not going gestalt for this.

so no need to worry about it.
I prefer additional players.

I will get a recruitment to replace Mrimmy.

Edit: I am considering Gestalt now for some reason.

but I still would like to get another player as well

I don't think I can use a long sword, so...

Gestalt is a little different from multiclass. Think of it as two separate classes you take the best of both from.
Is it really just like that?
No.
But if it helps, yes.

I would actually kind of like gestalt for this too. Oddly enough, I'm more familiar with gestalt rules than basic ones... XD
I like it either way, though. :)
I'm not sure what Mickey would be if this was gestalt... hmm...

if it were possible (and I doubt it will be, but one can hope) I'd suggest cleric, fighter (brawler) or ninja

EDIT: never mind on the hope
RE-EDIT: and the hope is back :P

Gestalt is a little different from multiclass. Think of it as two separate classes you take the best of both from.
Is it really just like that?
No.
But if it helps, yes.

At least it didn't get away from you. What with its wibbly wobbly ruley cooley ball of...stuff.

I don't think I can use a long sword. But if it doesn't affect spellcasting, my plan is to mostly learn offensive spells with saves instead of attack rolls, so it probably wouldn't affect me too much. And my skill points are probably not so much going to be going into Dex skills anyway.

Although the hint kind of makes me think that behind the door is just the modified longsword. Which is probably shiny and spiffy and totally useless to me.

doing some thinking might as well go for gestalt each person can choose a second class. let me know what class and be sure that it fits your character. not just for power playing.

with the added power level I will shift the advancement to medium pace.

Can we change point buy any to fit the new class?
I don't know what I'm going with yet, just want to know my options. :)

Tell DB3 about it! He would be cool here. :)

I'd rather not. the game was not originally designed with Gestalt in mind, I will have enough to do to keep up with your increased power level via Gestalt.

go ahead and let him know if you want...

Bard (arcane duelist) for me

Found one that fits really really well, and I don't have to change them.
Ape shaman druid. ^_^

I'm thinking maybe some kind of Summoner (yes, I remember you said no Sythesist Summoner) since they're also Cha based. Plus it'd be cool if I could somehow merge my eidolon and familiar to create a more badass dragon.

It should be noted that I'm still looking over gestalt rules.

take your time this game is not going anywhere

need to see if Letha is on board as well.

that would be really cool, treating the elodion as points like in the feat "evolved familiar"

I'm definitely thinking summoner (just the normal type). I had already looked into Improved Familiar as a way to make Sora more dragon-like (mostly because I wanted her to fly eventually), but none of the choices there really seemed to fit.

Would I be able to merge my familiar and eidolon into a single creature? The way I'm thinking it'd work is that I'd use all the eidolon stats and then just give her the things that are in the "special" column of the familiar page at appropriate levels. Which are things like "+2 to perception/sense motive when your familiar is within reach" and "deliver touch spells."

Also, how does the whole "favorite class" thing work with gestalt?

don't forget the things like +to int
depends on the DM
in 3.5, where gestalt originates (in the unearthed arcana book) you gained a second favored class, primarily because favored class worked different back then,
going outside of your favored class too much caused XP penalties
pathfinder, on the other hand, rewards staying in your original class, so it's a bit different.

you only get your normal favored class. (1 class)

Should be done putting over adaptation.
Will select spells tomorrow. Is late. :/

::biggrin::

My character should be updated now.

I am also now updated ::biggergrin::

I want you all to know that you're evil for introducing me to the idea of gestalt and all the possible options for that. I was already overly addicted to making characters.... :-P

you are welcome,
if you want to try out more combos and have the time, Avalon Academy is always recruiting,

as far as main changes
reflex save went up by 2
preform (sing), sense motive, spellcraft, and know (arcana) went up by 4
bonus feat (arcane strike) added,
spells added (1st level spells known: cure light wounds, sleep)
AC reduced by 3 (I can't cast in heavy or medium armor yet)
performances added
I also organized my character sheet under spoiler tags with titles, while I was at it

You can assume I'm on board for.anything. Will be choosing a class very soon. Letha will go ahead with the finger removal. Fire or alcohol can be used to cauterize and des
infect.

I can do it, I have stabilize as a spell now :D

hmm and as for what to pick, (now don't feel pressured to pick what I say, but I've found that when I suggest something, either it directly helps, or it gives them an immediate "no, that's not right, this would be better..." which works for me, so long as you have fun)
mechanically, I'd suggest you pick ninja or bard, they both utilize charisma and dexterity
alternatively you could maximize spell casting and go sorcerer
of the three I think bard fits better thematically from what I've observed, but sorcerer would also work, depending on the bloodline
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