@Dughal.
You can try to convice Krine, with a diplo, to add up to 2 npcs to the party.
[dice=Diplomacy]1d20
May bad, you could use either bluff or Diplo.
I'll consider you test succesful, because with your bluff bonus you would be able to convince her.
Sounds good. Do we get to pick the npcs?
Now that we're in range, should Nthanda and I be posting our actions here, or in the other thread?
@Victoriana, keep to the other thread. I'll update there in some hours, sorry, I've had some bad days last couple of days.
Also, I'm considering giving you and Nthanda the control over both NPCs, if you want to participate here too.
That sounds fine, and no worries about post speed (I've just been bored at work the last few days). Will cut out here and only check on the other thread until things resolve (violently).
Sh’ are you aware that this game is about being a pirate and doing pirate things right?
To plunder, murder, blackmail, capture and sell ‘foes’ as slaves and lots of others pirate things.If you want to roll with a ‘good-pirate’ maybe you could do that for a ‘greater-good’ cause, or you don’t kill, but rather only disable your enemies. There are several of options here to make interesting choices. The game however, is based around (at least a great deal in the earlier parts) in being an infamy pirate. :)
Sounds good. Do we get to pick the npcs?
I've answered this in gameplay thread.
Yes, you can choose from the crew list who you want to go with you;
My computer went and broke itself!
Anyway , I'm trying to have it fixed today or tomorrow.
-Posted with Wayfinder
@Ambrose.
Please, update to level 2.
I'm pretty sure you'll not survive this part with level a level one char.
Sandara Quinn
Female human cleric of Besmara 3
CN Medium humanoid (human)
Init +1; Senses Perception +3
DEFENSE
AC 11, touch 11, flat-footed 10 (+1 Dex)
hp 26 (3d8+6)
Fort +4, Ref +2, Will +6
OFFENSE
Speed 30 ft.
Melee mwk rapier +5 (1d6+2/18–20)
Ranged heavy crossbow +3 (1d10/19–20)
Special Attacks channel positive energy 5/day (DC 14, 2d6), surge (+5)
Domain Spell-Like Abilities (CL 3rd; concentration +6)
5/day—copycat (3 rounds)
Cleric Spells Prepared (CL 3rd; concentration +5)
2nd—instant armor* (DC 15), slipstream* D , summon monster II
1st—command (DC 14), doom (DC 14), inflict light wounds (DC 14), obscuring mist D
0 (at will)—bleed (DC 14), create water, purify food and drink, stabilize
D Domain spell; Domains Trickery, Water (Oceans subdomain*)
* See the Advanced Player’s Guide.
TACTICS
During Combat If she is expecting combat, Sandara casts instant armor, which increases her AC to 17. Sandara takes every fight seriously, and once she gets started, she finishes things. She targets her opponent with doom and summons a small elemental or 1d3 dire rats to fight by her side.
Morale Sandara is almost foolishly stubborn, a quality that might very well get her killed someday. She won’t surrender and doesn’t back down from a fight unless totally overwhelmed.
STATISTICS
Str 14, Dex 12, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 16, Cha 14
Base Atk +2; CMB +4; CMD 15
Feats Athletic, Combat Reflexes, Scribe Scroll
Skills Appraise +4, Bluff +6, Climb +4, Heal +7, Knowledge
(religion) +4, Profession (sailor) +8, Stealth +5, Swim +4
Japes
Male warrior 2
Medium humanoid
Init +2; Senses Perception +1
DEFENSE
AC 12, touch 12, flat-footed 10 (+2 Dex)
hp 11 each (2d10)
Fort +3, Ref +2, Will –1
OFFENSE
Speed 30 feet
Melee cutlass* +3 (1d6+1/18–20) or dagger +3 (1d4+1/19–20) or sap +3 (1d6+1 nonlethal)
Ranged dagger +4 (1d4+1/19–20) or throwing axe +4 (1d6+1)
TACTICS
During Combat: Japes fight according to his loyalties. He always look out for himself first.
Morale: Japes withdraws from combat when reduced to 6 hit points or fewer, and flees when reduced to 3 hit points or fewer.
STATISTICS
Str 13, Dex 14, Con 11, Int 10, Wis 9, Cha 8
Base Atk +2; CMB +3; CMD 15
Feats Athletic, Skill Focus (Profession [sailor])
Skills Climb +7, Intimidate +4, Perception +1, Profession (sailor) +6, Stealth +3, Swim +7
Languages Common
Other Gear throwing axe, cutlass*, dagger, sap, basic pirate clothes*, personal effects such as cheap earrings, leather belt, lucky rabbit’s foot, hat with a parrot feather plume, etc.
* See Pirates of the Inner Sea.
Sh’ are you aware that this game is about being a pirate and doing pirate things right?
To plunder, murder, blackmail, capture and sell ‘foes’ as slaves and lots of others pirate things.
If you want to roll with a ‘good-pirate’ maybe you could do that for a ‘greater-good’ cause, or you don’t kill, but rather only disable your enemies. There are several of options here to make interesting choices. The game however, is based around (at least a great deal in the earlier parts) in being an infamy pirate. :)
The bold emphasis is mine.
And as far as that is concerned, my character will not be doing any of this. Now, he won't having a problem taking out other pirate ships, but, he has no desire in taking out innocent ships.
Because all of those things that I bolded are made for an evil character. Sh'torek is not an evil character. And if that's what this AP is all about, then Paizo should have mentioned beforehand that this is for evil characters only. I would've then built an evil pc for it. It's far too late for that now, though.
So, having said all that, if this is gonna be a problem for you, DM, or for the rest of you, players, then let me know and I'll move on. No harm no foul. Because I'm not building an evil character at this point. I built this character for this AP because that's what I liked. I didn't realize it was suppose to be an evil campaign.
I believe I should be at 11 HP, taking 3 and another 1 for favored class bonus.
Personally, I was hoping to take Ambrose in a more LE direction as time went on, but we just added two more good-aligned characters. That said, just because they're good-aligned doesn't mean they can't be pirates. It's something we'll have to work out.
Well, with my unasked-for two cents... yes, Nthanda is good-aligned, and I tended to assume more of a "daring, adventurous swashbucklers" type thing than a "hey, we raid towns, capture non-combatant townsfolk, and sell them into slavery". In other words, I was assuming more the romanticized/pulp fiction image of 'pirates' (for the PCs) than the grittier idea of "real" pirates who would have no problems setting a town ablaze, etc.
Nthanda could probably see her way to things like theft, and has no problems killing those who would kill her, but... I guess I'm in a similar boat with Sh'torek, in that I don't envision her as an evil character and that I did not necessarily grasp the adventure needing straight-up enthusiasm for evil actions.
I don't mind playing out moral conflicts and Nthanda needing to do cruel things to survive, but it would be just that from my corner: a moral conflict, and Nthanda needing to do cruel things to survive-- not her ever being happy about it.
Well, I think the important point for the time being is that we are not the ones in charge. Regardless of alignment, we were all pressganged; we are expected to obey. Things might change later on, but I think our "just deal with it" attitude will take us a long way. We are already miserable, so being told to do evil stuff is a given.
That being said, Boldwin is a survivor.
If we're all weighing in here—Victoriana is a treasure hunter at heart, and wants the opportunity to make grand and complicated contraptions and magic items. If that means taking some valuables from people who don't need them in the process, she'll probably be fine with that, but might prefer to bandage up as many survivors as possible and leave them on an island somewhere with plenty of food and water.
Well, no one asked me, but I'll butt in too!
I partially agree with Ambrose. I mean, why play a pirate adventure path, without wanting to be a pirate?
I’m not saying to be cruel either, but attacking other ships, villages, stealing and breaking the law must be something your char is able to do.
You can be pirates that don’t ‘kill’ (more than necessary). It may be that you don’t take slaves, instead you capture then into your ship and releases them in the first opportunity.
There are lot’s of choices and chances that can lead to interesting roleplay development.
Anyway, unless you want me to change the entire adventure path, and I mean change it entirely, you must be willing to do piracy acts, not only survive, but to gain ‘infamy’, to be known, for any other reason you may think of.
Well, I certainly am not asking for you to change the adventure as written. I'm also not saying that Nthanda would be a wet blanket towards the members of the crew who do want to embrace the more savage side of pirate life, either-- I see her role as someone trying to make the best of a bad situation, where she would try to keep people alive, etc, but she's not going to mutiny against the other PCs or anything.
Okay, reading my last post, it actually sounded bad.
I did not meant to sound defensive or aggressive.
I'll roll with anything you decide. It was just a head's up, so you know that avoiding piracy would lead to a different 'adventure'.
Sorry for my lack of ppl touch!
My pirate hearth is filled with pirate love for you! </3
Sure. I'm just thinking in terms of something like Pirates of the Caribbean, or the Princess Bride—you've got pirate main characters, and some of them are a bit more noble and good-hearted than others, but as long as they're all willing to fight for their lives and keep working together, it's not a problem.
To be fair, both of those movies completely glossed over anything to do with actual piracy. Pirates of the Caribbean was especially bad about this; aside from Barbossa attacking Port Royal at the beginning of the first one, the series is mostly them having high fantasy adventures that have little to nothing to do with raiding, pillaging, plundering or the like. There isn't even any wenching.
As far as slaving goes, I really like the idea of attacking a slave ship, freeing the slaves, and taking the slavers themselves as slaves to be sold. Especially if they're Chelaxian >:) As far as attacking other ships goes, simply cannibalizing the other pirates for our plunder is a terrible long-term strategy. Certainly there will be conflict and we'll be fighting other pirates, but the Shackles is truly a pirate nation-state. If we make a name for ourselves as pirate-hunters, we'll likely find ourselves branded as enemies of the state and hunted by the rest of the Free Captains. Considering that the Shackles is a nation-state, albeit one that isn't formally recognized by any other nations besides Sargava, Free Captains could technically be considered privateers.
Aku, I do have some ideas for how you might be able to salvage the AP while avoiding some of the more unpleasant things. I'll PM them to you.
As far as slaving goes, I really like the idea of attacking a slave ship, freeing the slaves, and taking the slavers themselves as slaves to be sold.
That sounds like something the right CG characters might be able to get behind, and we are pretty close to Cheliax, with all its devils and whatnot.
Sir Francis Drake actually did a bit of this, back in the 16th century—there are reports of him attacking slave-plantation Spanish silver mines, then taking the silver, freeing the slaves and arming them so that the Spanish would have more trouble setting up the same system in the future.
Also, I believe somewhere there's material about the AP that discourages evil alignments—or maybe not, and I just misread it. That said, there might also be some room for general alignment shifting towards neutral as characters become more cynical.
Just DMPC me for now. Or just delay Sh'torek. That'd be fine too. I've had a long day and it's late and I need to call it a night. Sorry.
Kinda super busy last day. I'll update in some hours.
I apologize for the delay.
Okay Gang, hear me out.
I’ve still not really read the other books in this Ap, but I have now a general outline of what will happen to it.
Anyway, Let’s talk about pirates.
At some point in the future, as I’m sure you are expecting, you’ll find yourself commanding a ship.
At that time, the adventure assumes you are intending to become free Captains yourself. Pirates braving the shackles. And for a brief period of time, you must gain ‘infamy’ enough to be considered true pirates.
After this part, the game turns more into ‘pirate’ politics than acting as a real pirate.
How to gain infamy?
“Carve your name on the ever-changing sea with a saber of terror and triumph. Fight for plunder, fame, and glory, and earn your place among the legends of the sea.”
—Besmara’s Code
By attacking merchant ships, raiding settlements, and squabbling with other pirates. That’s how you make your name.
Note that, it does not mean senseless murder.
Anyway, it comes down to this: If you want to be pirates and be known as pirates, even using a different approach from the standard, we’ll be able to continue this game as intended.
If however, you don’t plan in following that particular road, the game may take a 180° turn and be something else entirely.
Choose your destiny!
Terror always sounds fun. Especially if it's "Ride around on a flaming fiery ship with dragon wings and magical gibbering sails and scare people into giving us their money" terror.
I'm pretty much open to clever ideas and unconventional methods.
Tell me what you are thinking.
:D
Let's see, I've got an unseen servant that can do simple tasks, acid splash as a ranged touch attack that can damage rope and sails, a magic missile that's guaranteed damage on a single target when I need it, and mage hand for other small things like throwing lamps, torches, small cannonballs if there are any.
The battle has developed a little bit since my last post, so there are a couple more viable options. Currently, we've got what appears to be the primary enemy mostly surrounded, and she's standing near the rail. That gnome's casting is a problem, and we don't yet know the results of her most recent attack. I could use a readied action to cast magic missile when she seems to be about to cast another spell in the hopes of disrupting it, or I could try to damage the ropes enough to send a boom swinging around at the clustered group, kind of like a huge bullrush. Either magic missile or acid splash would be helpful. Alternatively, I could use mage hand or unseen servant to do something to mess with the other two enemies standing at the aft rail.
If it simplifies things, I'll default to readying magic missile to disrupt another spell by the gnome.
Okay.
Just pointing:
I know you guys know that the black-skinned and the gnome are our other party members! Remember you will be working together, and while I find it cool to have some in character interaction, just remember that, what you need is more allies, not enemies. The wormwood is already crawling with your enemies.
*Facepalm*
I thought those were placeholder tokens. In retrospect it seems obvious, but I didn't realize that that's how you were introducing them.
@Nathanda, Victoriana.
Please, post your actions for round eleven here. :)
I'm very busy today. It'll take me some time to update things.
Promise I'll do my best to get things moving again today. :)
@Boldwin.
Kroop is already helpful.
I'll move your good diplo roll to another pirate.
Whoops, thought he was at friendly for some reason. Thanks!
@Javell
I'll move things, but I'm still wanting to see your actions :D
yup.
Just remember you got nothing with you. Everything was taken by the pirates.
Just remember you got nothing with you. Everything was taken by the pirates.
And of course, they took her tools, so she can't make new things. Though that might just make it more fun when she gets a few levels and has to make improvised tools, use them to make proper tools, and use those to secretively craft magic items.
Just remember you got nothing with you. Everything was taken by the pirates.And of course, they took her tools, so she can't make new things. Though that might just make it more fun when she gets a few levels and has to make improvised tools, use them to make proper tools, and use those to secretively craft magic items.
That's pretty much how modern engineering developed. It just took thousands of years.
I'll let you guys have this time to talk and know each other.
Tell me when you are ready to move foward.
Hey!
I'm recruiting one more for my Way of the Wicked game.
Here is the link.
Feel free to apply if you are interested.
I'll give you until today night, if no one else is saying or doing anything, I'll move things foward.
Sounds like the ship's stacked with our people! Although unfortunately it's probably Plugg's pirates who actually know how to fight.
Plugg and Scourge are kinda high level.
both are level 5+
@Boldwin.
You don't too wait for me. Please post your actions for about three or four days.
The spoiler is avaliable after the questions from the other pirates.
Meaning, when they asked, you did not had that information.
Oh, I know. Was a little short on time so I just posted that. I'll be posting to interact with everyone else and whatnot.