Now I know they aren't ogl as far as the 3.5 one goes but has anyone come up with a pf update for them on there own we just converted to pathfinder and a few days after I bought my books a player found a used copy complete rouge cheap and has been waiting to play her ninja as its why she bought the book I'm worried about her falling behind in the power cure any suggestions?
Hmm... You could try the Kusa class from Heroes of the Jade Oath. It would need to be adapted to Pathfinder, of course, but it wouldn't take much to do that. It is a very flexible "ninja" class with a build similar to Arcana Evolved's Akashic class, but with different abilities to choose from. Black jump suits not needed and need not apply.
If Rite Publishing's experimental adaptation of the Enlightened Scholar class is successful, we might go ahead with adapting other things like the Kusa class and do it for you guys instead of you having to do it yourselves; however, that is probably a little ways down the road, if at all. In the mean time, the only way to get the Kusa class is to join the patronage project for Heroes of the Jade Oath at Rite Publishing. Also, there are lots of other neat things in there besides the Kusa.
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If I were to have ninja in my campaign, I'd probably have them start off as sorcerers (perhaps with a unique bloodline) and then take a prestige class representing they're clan's traditions, secret techniques and the like. I'd use sorcerer because I like mystic ninja with magical powers and the like.
Of course I'm working on a Ninja prestige class for Kaidan: a Japanese Ghost Story setting, that is being published as an imprint under Rite Publishing with the main setting book released some time in the fall.
As a 10 level Prestige Class with Psionic like Ki powers acquired at each level. The first five being common to all Ninjas, and the second five to specialize in the Ki Powers of one of five Ninja Houses.
One house specializes in invisibility and bypassing obstacles, another specializes in special movement (running up walls, levitation), another at mind-affecting, one house manipulates time and the last primarily divination and spying.
Sneak Attack progression, as per Rogue, thus 5d6 Sneak Attack at 10th level with varying Special Sneak Attacks like Stunning and Paralyzing effects with successful attack at varying levels - probably 3 such special attacks.
Prerequisite classes is Clan Shinobi (Ninja based Rogues of the setting) with a class dip in Monk to acquire the Ki Pool mechanic. Clan Shinobi can opt to not take the Ninja prestige class, rather multi-class or dip in Monk, Sorcerer, or Fighter.
No Inverse Ninja Law, though.
Still early in development.
GP
Ninja do not exist and never have. They're a myth.
>_>
As are dragons and vampires and the like...
Ninja do not exist and never have. They're a myth.
Oh that's just what they WANT you to think ...
Ninja do not exist and never have. They're a myth.Oh that's just what they WANT you to think ...
same with dragons and vampires ...
Ninja do not exist and never have. They're a myth.
>_>
While honorable ways are touted as a prime directive for Samurai, spies and stealth trained martial groups did exist in ancient Japan, and was necessary - someone performed these duties. In some writings certain Samurai or other martial houses of the commoner caste did do military espionage for the emperor and various Daimyo.
Within a societal subset that depends on secrecy as their primary tool, everything was kept secret (small leaks got out of course) and maintained the secret to present day. This is why Ninja seemed mythical. You are not going to find direct historical evidence - it was always a secret after all. There are no Ninja House handbooks. Also these organizations served a cover profession and the general population was not aware that they were serving some other purpose.
There are known mentions in the historical records of spies and assassins being hired by the authorities - this is the only mention of their existence. At the beginning of the Tokugawa rule, and in the years while Hideyoshi was trying to consolidate the empire, was the period that saw most ninja activity, mostly from Iga province - this is fact.
The black stealth suits, of course is a theatrical addition to the Ninja legend, as ninja did not wear them. In Kabuki plays stage hands where those black suits to move stage props during plays to change scenery. Though they were in clear view by the audience, but acknowledged as not really being there, hence invisible. In the first Kabuki play where a ninja was used as part of the storyline, one of the "stage hands" revealed his face, pulled a katana and slew of the main characters from the play. This was played for shock value, as the stage hand was supposed to be invisible.
In all the modern depictions of ninja, they wear these stealth suits, its not true, just a theatrical convention adopted.
So while I agree, there is little in the historical record to prove their existence, beyond how well their secret was held - I do believe there were indeed Ninja (Shinobi) in feudal Japan. Ninja are not a myth.
GP
As are dragons and vampires and the like...
No, those are real. Ninja, on the other hand, aren't. If you see one, you totally don't see it, because a ninja doesn't let himself be seen. And they don't exist and never have.
<_<
So while I agree, there is little in the historical record to prove their existence,
No! Listen! I have signed testimonials here, signed by the ninja themselves, swearing under oath that they don't exist. And you can trust the word of a ninja!
No! Listen! I have signed testimonials here, signed by the ninja themselves, swearing under oath that they don't exist. And you can trust the word of a ninja!
So while I agree, there is little in the historical record to prove their existence,
I am not a ninja either, KaeYoss, just so you know >:)
In all seriousness, modern ninjitsu can date itself back several hundred years at least. How close the real 'ninja' were to the legend is another matter, and as such some claim that the ninjitsu taught by Dr Masaaki Hatsume isn't 'true' ninjitsu because it isn't the legend. This is a fairly silly stance to take, kind of like insisting that the Rambo movies are real ...
moves through thread like a shadow of (un)death
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Ask any player of L5R : Ninja DON'T exist !
Seriously, move along. Who would risk sullying one's honor by wearing black pajamas anyways ? right ?
In any event, the Emperor (All Hail His Divine Radiance !) says it is a crime to be a ninja. And it warrants a death penalty. But since nobody is a ninja, that's not an issue is it ?
Anyway, anybody witnessing a ninja crime should report to the imperial mag ... to the competent authorities. rest assured it will be investigated.
Move along !
In any event, the Emperor (All Hail His Divine Radiance !) says it is a crime to be a ninja.
Except the ones working for him.
In any event, the Emperor (All Hail His Divine Radiance !) says it is a crime to be a ninja. And it warrants a death penalty. But since nobody is a ninja, that's not an issue is it ?
Actually, you'd die like the honour-less dog you are, if you were a ninja. But since they don't exist, by Imperial Degree, it's really a moot point.
Anyway, anybody witnessing a ninja crime should report to the imperial mag ... to the competent authorities. rest assured it will be investigated.
Well, you'd be killed for disobeying a direct order by His Celestial Majesty, who ordered ninja not to exist. But it would be an honourable death!