The party is as follows:
Archmage: Aleister Sune, Tiefling Wizard (Conjurer, Teleportation Subschool)
Champion:Aeryx, Aasimar Ranger (Infiltrator)
Guardian: Menedemus Aultor, Tiefling Paladin of "???"
Hierophant: Lisandra Elsinore, Human Cleric of Desna (Crusader)
Marshal: Steave Rojerz, Half-Elf Ranger
Trickster: Leander Mulberry, Tiefling Rogue
Gameplay will likely to live tomorrow. If you have any questions or seek house rules, now would be the time to ask.
Thanks for the invite Spooky!
Greetings all, looking forward to playing with this AP with you.
Interesting to see in this group that the human is vastly in the minority... that is a lot of tieflings.
While the all Outsider party was impossible due to only core races in the Marshal field, I felt like I may as well get pretty close to that.
Yeah, the fact Steave and you are playing completely different sorts of rangers is why I didn't fret too much over things. Even if you do dip into monk, you'd still be miles apart.
Also, just a reminder as you go into finalizing things and looking into equipment, but I don't track encumbrance by the pound. Equip yourselves with what you have as you wish, and it's not a problem. I won't make you have to pump points into Strength just because you want to be prepared for a lot of things. Armor penalties are the bigger issue, and we'll only be looking carrying capacity when you actually need to carry something. I will, however, be a pain in the ass about having containers to put things in should you find something that needs bagging/bottling.
Oops, right. Just started up a round of Smite, will do as soon as possible.
Oh, don't worry, we don't have to summon Captain Outsider, we have to assemble Voltron. We don't need to be all outsiders to do that ;)
Adding the finishing touches to the build. I already wrote in the recruitment thread that I will be taking the Soul Seer alternate trait: it will probably start to work as soon as we fight for the first time, much to Menedemus's distress.
By the way, do we have enough people with Diplomacy?
I was debating if it would be better if I took Intimidate, seeing as the direction Menedemus will be going maybe makes more sense with that.
If we don't have a party face, tough, I'll happily take Diplomacy. Just let me know. :)
Oh, Spooky: is that houserule about the ritual of mortification that I proposed to you some days ago okay? It won't enter in play until level 3, but it's nice to know in advance.
Can you run that by me again? I've read a lot of words tonight and no matter how good my memory usually is everything is sort of muddling together.
Okay gameplay is now open for everyone. Dot in it or whatver. You may post freely, but you have to finalize your character by the time you make your first die roll.
Also, I don't think we have any dedicated party faces, so redundant diplomacy is a good idea. It's a very useful skill, especially in this AP.
Have to go in 3 minutes but I'll be trying to quickly cut and paste that here:
1)In Chronicle of the Righteous, there are the Rituals of Mortification: for some days you take 1d6 nonlethal damage at the start of every day. Once you complete that, you get the ritual effects for a number of days equal to number of days required for the ritual+constitution modifier.
Time Investment: 3 days.
Affliction: You begin to bleed and do so continuously
until the ritual’s end. The location of this persistent hemorrhage differs between participants. Some bleed
from their tear ducts, mouths, nostrils, or ears, while
others gain phantom wounds that mimic noted injuries
ascribed to their patron deity or empyreal lord. The blood flows continually, but slowly enough that you are not leaving oceans of blood in your wake. You take 1d6 points of damage at the start of every day.
Benefit: Any cure spell you cast heals an additional 2
points of damage per die.
That's perfect, except for the fact that the benefit wouldn't work on Lay on Hands, like Fey foundling does.
So here what I was thinking: I usually get no benefits from Fey Foundling, but always retaining the weakness to Cold Iron weapons, and only gain those healing bonus when I have my ritual of mortification active. Basically, no bonus, but only the malus until I get to level 3, take my level of Oracle, and start following "???".
2)Another problem it's that the ritual after 3+con modifier days it's off until I do other 3 days of preparation. I think that could be a problem, seeing as I think we wouldn't always have 3 days to not do anything and the Oradin doesn't work without Fey Foundling.
Proposal: When the ritual of mortification's duration expires, for 3 days I take both 1d6 damage from the bleeding that 1d6 damage to reenact the ritual.
So instead of being:
Day 2: No effect, 1d6 damage
Day 3:No effect, 1d6 damage
Day 4-10: Active, 1d6 damage
Day 11-14:No effect, 1d6 damage
etc...
Day 4-10:Active, 1d6 damage
Day 11-14:Active, 1d6+1d6 damage
Day 15-21:Active, 1d6 damage
etc..
Hello everybody.
Yeah, I guess that's fine by me. You'll be taking double ritual damage half the time, so I guess it balances out.
I think you need to add us as characters to post in the GP?
No, you just need to post in the gameplay thread and then it'll show up in your campaigns tab. The characters tab is for managing those already in the game.
Ah. Then it got eaten.
Hello everyone, good to be here.
When it comes to Diplomacy Leander has it covered, sort of. He has a crappy Cha score but through the Clever Wordplay trait he uses Int for Diplomacy, though I'm actually thinking of swapping that for Student of Philosophy instead, same effect but only when trying to convince people, not when gathering info.
Out of curiosity, how are we on the law vs chaos front? We have a Paladin (of Vildeis if I remember correctly) so that one on law and Leander is one on Chaos. What about the rest of you?
I also still have 50 gold remaining and no idea what to spend it one. I'd be looking for sensible things that would fit my character. That and I need to get my hand on a spell component pouch in a few levels so I need to save a bit for that.
EDIT: Oh, and another question: I added possible connections to some other campaign traits in Leander's background and the question is whether or not you guys would like to work on that or not.
Stolen Fury: Leander witnessed a ritual like that when he was stuck out in the World Wound. Was that you and could he perhaps recognise you or wasn't it? This would be a one sided thing where Leander would recognise Aeryx but not the other way around as he was hidden.
Rift Warden Orphan: Leander's mother is a rejected Riftwarden due to very little arcane arcane prowess and has become a steward and quartermaster for the Riftwardens. How much does Aleister know about the Riftwardens and was he in touch with them in some way? If he was he'd likely have contact with Leander's mum who just might have set them up for a meet at some point simply because they're both tainted by the World Wound and she figured they might connect.
Child of the Crusade & Exposed to Awfulness: Leander's father is a chirurgeon working for the crusade, as was his father before him and his father before that. He could also have been the one treating Menedemus when he was comatose (as per the trait). As such when Leander's last name comes up or if we come across his dad in game (as per my spoilered idea way back in the recruitment thread) you might recognise Leander's last name or his dad. Once again, one sided recognition, only this time from your side instead of Leander's.
No idea how to connect to Touched by Divinity, though that's easily solved in game: You worship Desna, Leander worships Chaldira Zusaristan, Desna's good friend, and has a healthy respect for Desna since his encounter out in the World Wound. Should make it easy to connect on that alone.
Chaotic Good.
Spooky, I've been thinking about this and would you allow me to drop the Rake archetype on my Rogue and then grab Wizard at lvl 3 instead of the Sorcerer from my initial submission? Imo it becomes more feasible to pick up wizard at later point with another wizard in the group to give him pointers.
He'd become an Evoker with the Admixture sub-school.
Evocation is a prohibited school for me but I'll do my best.
Evocation is a prohibited school for me but I'll do my best.
That shouldn't matter, it would just be helping him become a wizard, nothing specific about his spell list. His prohibited schools would most likely be Necromancy and Enchantment.
That is assuming Spooky is ok with it of course.If we'd go with the mother perishing in the attack on Kenabres, as I suggested in my application, I'd like to have him find his mother's spellbook and work from there. In my idea mom was a 1st level wizard/x lvl expert that'd also work spell wise.
In retrospect I should have switched the parties' Champion and Hierophant or Trickster, since right now this party has no primary Charisma caster but group one has a Bard and an Oracle to be a total party face, but oh well, you guys should be fine. Cap also Diplomacies off his Int.
Law vs. chaos will probably be less of a problem here since you guys don't have the Hellknight Paladin.
If you need to spend something, maybe look under Alchemical Items. Lots of fun stuff in there that's very good for a Rogue or small character, and definitely feel very Trickstery.
You can drop Rake; overall class and backstory did more for you than just the archetype. Also, you won't be held to your plan so closely that I'd be upset if you went in a different direction. Honestly with 18 Int and negative Charisma I'd question the decision to take Sorceror anyway. How would you balance Rogue levels and Wizard levels moving forward?
And the spellbook idea just might work. I'll consider writing something in.
It'll be 2 or 3 levels of Rogue then 3 of Wizard, then get the last level of Rogue if needed so I'm at 3 Rogue 3 Wizard at lvl 6, then become an Arcane Trickster at lvl 7.
Whether or not I first take 3 Rogue or 2 Rogue and 1 later depends on how the spellbook thing is handled I guess, on where we are in the story when that comes around.
As for the Law vs Chaos, that was more general curiosity.
As for the Sorcerer, that would have been the Sage bloodline, which uses Int for spells and class features instead of Cha.
The Captain has +6 Diplomacy. Spent two traits for it with a Charisma dump. Not great, but it could work.
Child of the Crusade & Exposed to Awfulness: Leander's father is a chirurgeon working for the crusade, as was his father before him and his father before that. He could also have been the one treating Menedemus when he was comatose (as per the trait). As such when Leander's last name comes up or if we come across his dad in game (as per my spoilered idea way back in the recruitment thread) you might recognise Leander's last name or his dad. Once again, one sided recognition, only this time from your side instead of Leander's.
Steave actually served in the first crusade (Child of the Crusade) and could have served with the ancestor. Figure out who and detail, so I can include it in my background to remember.
Character is actually fairly final unless you find anything inaccurate.
cheers
Ok, went with Diplomacy then. :)
I'm flipping trough items to see if there is anything interesting, but the important things are already in Menedemus's profile.
@Leander: yeah, I'm fine with that. It may take some time for Menedemus to connect the two names, but if he'll meet your father he will surely recognize him. The fact that he was a chirurgeon and not one of the Crusaders of Iomedae (towards with Menedemus has mixed feelings) will surely have left a little more clear memory. :)
I guess I'm a point towards Lawful, but Vildeis is kind of an odd ball, to be true.
Remember that Menedemus works as a guard in Kenabres, tough, so don't do anything shifty. ;)
Not do anything shifty? Leander is known as a thief and a small time crook in Kenabres, though people near his home know he tends to put things back after stealing them as to him it's more a primal urge to steal than actually wanting the stuff. That and putting it back unnoticed is quite the challenge.
As for the ancestor that lived during the first crusade, that's be Hagar Mulberry, Leander great-grandfather. He still worked there during the second crusade together with his son Leandric (guess who Leander was named after, more or less). Hagar perished in Drezen when the city fell.
As for his dad, most would know him as "Weaver", though his actual name is Joachi Mulberry. The nick name is a thing from his wife, Leander's mother, who comes from a family that works with the Bellflower Network and as such everyone has nicknames. Leander is called "Skink".
Well, Menedemus has been working as a guard in Kenabres since only a few months, so he probably doesn't know Leander by fame.
Also, he got a +0 to Perception: you could take something out of his pocket, put it back, and Menedemus wouldn't even notice you moved. :P
Jokes aside, it could be fun, and he isn't unreasonable. It'll work out fine. ;)
Would also the other Crusaders call him Weaver? If that's the case, Menedemus will surely make the connection on the spot.
With the probable exception of (some) officers most would call him Weaver, yes. The officers are more likely to call him Mulberry I guess.
I'm purposefully leaving it all a bit vague as in the end it's all Spooky's call. It's just my ideas.
Oh, and funny detail: I beat you at Diplomacy at +8
Added knowing Hagar Mulberry to his background. Also added that he had earned the title of captain in the first crusade. His background ends with the Riftwardens (SHIELD) finding him in the ice and sheltering him until he was ready to return to the crusade.
So happy to play this character!
cheers
No worries, I appreciate the ideas being dropped; we'll see if they end up coming up or not. Also, once Leander makes his first post, we'll move on. I'll usually proceed when only five people have posted so we keep a good pace, but I feel like introductions should be the exception there.
Spellbook:
Pro. Evil, Mage Armor, Grease, Summon Monster 1, Identify, Charm Person, Sleep, Feather Fall,
Thoughts?
For the scales, is it okay if I take the Burden Sharing one?
And I really need to get those Lay on Hands as soon as possible.
That, or I'll be one of the most short-lived HP battery Golarion will ever see. D:
Disguise or Resistance could work for Leander. Sacred Weaponry as well I guess, but it's probably better of with someone who is a primary melee combatant.
Disguise would be multi functional for him, both for infiltration and a tad more melee damage while Resistance could also work as he himself only has fire resistance.
Alter self can only change you into a humanoid, not an outsider. So I don't think that will work.
Do we have a lawful good character who can channel? Then, you should get the Consecration. Lisandra Elsinore?
Paladin should take Burden Sharing
Sacred Weaponry should go to a damage dealer
Disguise should go to the one who has the highest Bluff
Steave can take Sacred Weaponry or Resistance
The cloudwalking looks fun, but maybe the wizard or ranged damage dealer would be worthwhile.
cheers
I'm at a whopping +1 on Bluff, only my racial bonus preventing it from dipping into negative.
GOOD FIT
Lisandra Elsinore => Consecration: Three times per day as a standard action, a scale can be used to cast consecrate. If used by a lawful good character, the sacred bonus on positive channeled energy DC's granted by the scale increases by +1.
Menedemus Aultor => Burden Sharing: Three times per day as a standard action, a scale can be used to cast Shield Other.
Aeryx => Sacred Weaponry: Three times per day as a standard action, a scale can be used to cast align weapon, but only to make a weapon lawful or good. Unlike a normal align weapon spell, this effect can be cast on an unarmed strike or natural weapon.
Damage dealer
SUGGESTIONS
Aleister Sune => Cloudwalking: Three times per day as a standard action, a scale can be used to cast levitate. A pillar of roiling clouds rises below the levitating object or creature, growing and shrinking with the target's altitude. This pillar is 5 feet in diameter (regardless of the target's size) and provides concealment (20% miss chance) to any creature or object wholly contained within.
Distance is good for a wizard.
Leander Mulberry => Disguise: Three times per day as a standard action, a scale can be used to cast alter self. While disguised, the target gains a +4 bonus on all Bluff checks made against evil creatures.
Besides Bluff, it would help you be sneaky. Worst case, you get a Str or Dex stat bump when you use it.
Steave Rojerz => Resistance: Three times per day as a standard action, a scale can be used to cast resist elements-but only against electricity or cold.
Meh. Everyone first.
I have resist 7 to 3 elements. That one would be wasted on me.
I wouldn't mind Disguise Alter self is a pretty good spell.
My preference is still cloudwalking but if someone else can put it to better use than I, I'm good with that as well.
I wouldn't mind whether I get Disguise or Resistance. I traded in all but my fire resistance for +1 natural armor so it would work for me.
That said, I'm perfectly fine with your idea.
My only last thoughts would be for Leander and Aleister to switch.
Leander could use the cloudwalking to climb walls helping infiltration, but it will only be great if he has a good ranged weapon and plans to do the sneaking around.
Aleister could use the alter self, because it's a very versatile spell.
Speak now or forever hold your piece. I mean peace.
cheers
It's okay by me.
I'd say it's better if we have someone melee-focused on the rear like Leander, just in case we got attacked from the rear and it takes me and Steave a round or so to get to Anevia, Aravashnial and NobleJerk.
Aravashniel and Anevia will also be able to aid if you can. Anevia has a bow and a few arrows with her, while Aravashniel will be willing to cast some of his spells if you can make him Friendly.