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Ha! Thanks Rig, I totally forgot about that. I was looking at my Adventuring Skills and was like welp, guess I'm going with a straight dice roll! I must admit though, Kargas wrasslin' a horse would be a good show XD
So our casters are Rig, Kellek, Floredana, & Colvyn. Those four definitely need to get 8 hours of sleep. Guiness & Kargas don't get any spells, so we can take the bulk of the watch & get some extra shut-eye while the spell-preparations are underway. Sound like an okay plan?
Maybe Rig & Kellek/Flor as first watch (2hr), followed by Colvyn & Flor/Kellek (2hr), followed by Kargas & Guiness?
GM, what's your ruling for a "full night's rest"? For caster's it's pretty clear but for martial's less so. If Guiness and Kargas get 6-7 hours instead of 8 are we auto-fatigued? Fort save? Something else?
sounds good Kargas
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Guiness will be fatigued if he rests in his armor, but when he has been assigned to units with spellcasters, he typically does the swing shift so they can take the first or last watch and get 8 hours continuous rest. As far as adventuring groups go, this is all new territory to him. He will do whatever is needed.
Yep 6 hours is enough for the non-casters to avoid fatigue (any less than that and you makes saves vs. fatigue, IIRC). You only get the overnight natural healing with a full 8 hours.
I assume you guys don't wear armor while sleeping unless you have Endurance or make a specific statement saying you will.
Looks like Kargas is suggesting:
Rig + Kellek 2 hrs
Colvyn + Flo 2 hrs
Kargas + Guiness 6 hrs
Rig + Kellek + Colvyn + Flo 2 hrs (during which some spell prep happens)
Which gives everyone but Guiness and Kargas 8 hours of sleep.
sounds good
Same here!
Zzzz.
If it is possible Kellek suggests running some twine (which he can supply) out to the bridge release and rigging it so that it can be pulled by someone at or behind the gate. We could put a little spy hole in the gate with a dagger if need be.
So this question is directed mainly at GM Cellion and Kellek: With knowledge checks, do we need to wait to be told the information, or can we assume it is spread?
I ask because on the one hand, it speeds things up. On the other, it takes away a piece of the game from someone who invested heavily in the skill.
I don't mind having Kargas act without player knowledge, though it may get him killed at higher levels :(
I always assume you guys will automatically share info. Doing otherwise is way too slow for PbP (where the person who made the check might not have a chance to post for a while), and it often degenerates into copy-pasting what the GM wrote anyway.
I always assume you guys will automatically share info. Doing otherwise is way too slow for PbP (where the person who made the check might not have a chance to post for a while), and it often degenerates into copy-pasting what the GM wrote anyway.
[Indignantly] Oh, like I would ever do that!
:D
You wouldn't believe how many people in Society play *do* do that though.
I don't need to believe it. I've seen it. I try when I can to make the descriptions less meta-mechanical.
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Hate fighting inside... There is no place to get a proper shot. colvyn moves again, trying to stay out of reach of the creature. He then sends an arrow flying toward the ugly thing.
[dice=Longbow vs Anime monster]1d20+9+1+1
"Anime monster!? WHERE!? For I am the Pretty Knight in Mail, Guardian of Love and Justice, Apollyanna Sukino! In the name of the Eternal Maiden, I will punish them!"
A paladin?! Not a Magical Child Vigilante?? Am disappoint
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A paladin?! Not a Magical Child Vigilante?? Am disappoint
Actually if she weren't CORE, I would have made her a chosen one (I think that's the paladin archetype) and given her a cat familiar. I actually don't find the vigilante very on type for the vigilantes I wanna play like this one for instance.
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Made and left an unedited one to copy and paste for your own games off to the side. I took off the cropping (for the wall) and the 50% transparency. Always remember to move it behind the layers of any characters moving around on the map. ;)
Thanks Kellek! :D
I don't have a problem with it either as long as everyone is willing to tone it down as soon as someone isn't enjoying it!
Nice job with the caster :D
Question on the turn order and how effects resolve, GM.
So in the initiative order, Flor goes before Kargas. I posted my turn first and didn't include Bit of Luck because it hadn't happened yet, but Flor just cast it on me before the merc hit me and the new round started.
What happens with that Bit of Luck? Is it wasted since Flor goes before me, or may I reroll my barely-missed attack? Any ruling is fine, just making sure we're all on the same page.
Also: DOES THAT MERC HAVE CORNUGON SMASH?! I WANT CORNGON SMASH! That is all.
My philosophy is to resolve actions in posting order and try to avoid backtracking and retroactive actions wherever I can. What that means is that since Flo posted after you last round, you have bit of luck this round!
It can get a bit confusing if (for example) Flo posted late last round but early this round, but assume you get 1 round's worth of bit-of-luck either way.
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Also, cornugon smash is awesome and super strong. :>
Slammed at work, margin calls. Will post this evening!
On lunch, thanks for the bot GM!
One small thing: I think Cornugon Strike's intimidation ability only works on the creature damaged. Since he hit Kargas again the Intimidate check could only be aimed at him.
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While I love cornugon smash, this guy is using a different ability - one that lets him intimidate as a move action. It doesn't carry any restrictions on who you can intimidate.
Serves me right for assuming!
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I can't remember if we have a party fund or something, but...
Proposition: We split the cost for healing wands. Since Colvyn bought the first one on his own, I'd also like to have him reimbursed (minus what he would have paid if we split it the first time).
Rationale: Our adventuring day would be much shorter without these little pieces of wood, but boy do we go through them quickly. I'd be just about out of spells and channels at this point if we didn't have it and we, at least, still have scary dogs and a demon priestess to fight. Can't imagine it'll change much as we go through the levels.
Instead of messing around with the math of reimbursement, why not just have each of us buy one for the party, taking turns? We all benefit and we all chip in.
also fine either way. one of the more useful purchases.
Speaking as devil's advocate, Kellek feels that a staff of fire would be way more useful.
I would point out that there is an argument to be made that wizards should spend their dough on wizard-things, fighters should spend their dough on fighter-things, and that clerics should spend their dough on cleric-things, as all those things contribute to party success (and health!) in the long run. That said he'll comply this time with understanding that there will be a magical stick for him to use (i.e. staff of fire) that folks will chip in for somewhere down the road. ;)
On another point, I would suggest scaling up magical healing sticks as we increase in level. Yeah, I know they are cheap and everyone should have one but my characters only ever do if they are a healer type and can actually use the stick without resorting to UMD. As alluded to above, I rather spend money on stuff that makes them a better whatever-they-ares--I leave it everyone in the PFS to have a spare backscratcher of cure light itches, because nearly everyone has one--even if they can't use it. Selfish I know, but if my fighter can use the money for better armor so she's not hit so often then it all pans out. That and they are only cheap when you have time to spend 10 rounds healing everyone. Better to have a wand of cure serious wounds when you can afford one so you don't heal your buddy for 2 hp in the middle of a fight and then have the villain vital strike them to instakill for 37 points of damage. Just sayin'. Plus it's more useful in a fight against tougher (incorporeal) undead.
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I have played with groups that were very formal with treasure distribution, both coinage and items. There are several ways to make it “fair”, but they usually end up with suboptimal use of resources and hard feelings.
Perhaps it is playing computer games where I optimize the party as a whole, or maybe just my personality, but I prefer to be much more casual with treasure. For example, Guiness sees this whole operation as an extension of him being rescued, so he isn’t expecting any treasure—he is just happy to be alive.
In general, I am okay with handling the loot distribution however you guys want. Just tell me what Guiness’ share is and he will be fine. As far as items go, if he can use an item (like that shield), he will do so while it makes sense, but that doesn’t mean he has claimed it as treasure for himself yet.
When I GM, I leave loot distribution entirely up to the players. But when I play, I often run loot distribution for the group (I do love my spreadsheets). Rather the opposite of Guiness' experience: I've found formal loot distribution does wonders for minimizing hard feelings and being equitable in making sure everyone gets stuff they want. There are a number of ways to do it that work really well in that respect, and in getting good utilization out of found loot.
OTOH, that's just my experience, and you guys should do whatever works best for you.
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When I GM, I leave loot distribution entirely up to the players. But when I play, I often run loot distribution for the group (I do love my spreadsheets). Rather the opposite of Guiness' experience: I've found formal loot distribution does wonders for minimizing hard feelings and being equitable in making sure everyone gets stuff they want. There are a number of ways to do it that work really well in that respect, and in getting good utilization out of found loot.
OTOH, that's just my experience, and you guys should do whatever works best for you.
I love the spreadsheets too! Being detail-oriented and keeping good records of where loot goes is very important.
Perhaps an example of formality in loot sharing is warranted...
In one group, we totaled the coinage and items gp value, then divided by the number of people in the group. Everyone started out with that amount of “credit” to buy coinage or items. Then we would roll off to decide who got to go first picking an item. We would repeat until all the items were gone, then use player’s remaining credit to purchase coinage and gems, etc.
Very fair, precisely equal in loot distribution, but a recipe for disaster. Many times you couldn’t “afford” that new magic item perfect for your character, or someone else would roll higher and take it first.
Assigning found items that makes sense for the characters and splitting coinage equally seems to work much better. If more than one character wants an item, have them solve it in-game...
Just my 2 cp worth...
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My only concern with loot distribution is that somebody doesn't get the short end of the stick and doubly so for AP's. AP's typically have loot that favors certain classes while neglecting others which can cause huge disparities in loot across the campaign. As long as there is a way to keep the gap from the wealthiest to the poorest PC within a reasonable level, I'll agree to the plan.
One of the methods I've experienced is to let people take what they need, sell the rest, and every two levels we run some numbers to see where everyone is at. If someone is below the expected wealth by level, they get a bigger share of the gp cut until they catch up. Our thinking, was that the bottom gets lifted while the top doesn't get penalized for playing an AP that gives them perfect items.
Not saying we have to do it, just sharing it for the discussion!
Rig did you get a new weapon? Just want to make sure we're not leaving you in the lurch before the next fight breaks out.
I did not, but I've got a few daggers, a whip, etc., so I'm not completely useless. Unfortunately I can't effectively use the bastard sword
longswords are pretty common. I'm not terribly worried just yet
On mobile, but I’ll move wherever I have to do that I can get Rig with the spell.
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You have a lot of options due to the 40ft move speed you're rocking. I'll go ahead to just move you the minimum distance that'll catch Rig.
@GM re: explanation-- totally cool. In fact, I assumed that was how the turn order would work out with Rig starting his performance at the top of round 2.
Did anyone want or take the cloak of resistance +1 taken from the lady mage? Kellek is claiming her scrolls and wand unless someone else needs them.
I have my own cloak already! :)
Well, it looked like this so Kellek was just wondering.
These were the other things (besides the cloak of resistance +1) on the wizard in case anyone forgot.
A Blue Potion of Cure Moderate Wounds
A Light Blue Potion of Cure Light Wounds
Scrolls of... comprehend languages, minor image, see invisibility, sleep, and whispering wind.
A Wand of Magic Missile (38 charges)
A Dull gray Ioun Stone, enchanted with Continual Flame
Kargas would totally rock that cloak, if no one else wants it.