Kegan the Chaotic
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I believe we need a single save vs poison, unfortunately at a higher DC.
Each additional dose extends the total duration of the poison (as noted under frequency) by half its total duration. In addition, each dose of poison increases the DC to resist the poison by +2. This increase is cumulative.
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Since it affects my use of Charmed Life, I will wait for your confirmation before attempting the save.
| GM Irish202 |
I believe we need a single save vs poison, unfortunately at a higher DC.
I thought that you would need one save for poison, then one save for distraction?
GM, would my limited self heal be replenished by now?
As in spontaneous healing? That would have recharged with your resources after your rest, correct?
Kegan the Chaotic
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Kegan wrote:I believe we need a single save vs poison, unfortunately at a higher DC.I thought that you would need one save for poison, then one save for distraction?
Ah, that explains it.
Yes, one for poison and a different one for distraction is correct!
Kegan the Chaotic
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I am unsure of what is best for Testudo to do atm. Thoughts?
My suggestion is to get to a position where next round he can charge the dragon. Have him ready an attack if the dragon comes for him.
Bonus points if he can get some healing as he does this. That is likely only possible if someone readies a healing spell to go off as Testudo moves past and then Testudo moves.
Testudo on a charge would do massive damage to the dragon, especially having challenged it. We really could use that right now.
Melisande Shahrizai Courcel
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I'm not sure what else I can do here other than throw down some Magic Missiles that may or may not get through the dragon's SR. I can try moving up to wand Locke for a little bit of healing if a space opens as I suspect their bombs will be much more effective against the dragon than anything I can do.
Kegan the Chaotic
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If you have a way to get rid of the smoke, coordinate that with Testudo.
Have Testudo delay until after you clear the smoke, you clear the smoke and he charges the dragon.
The other thing is if you think the dragon might get unlucky you could try Glitterdust until they fail. A Blind Dragon would make things easier.
Tereze Amnell
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Well it still has some images. Getting rid of the images would help to set it up for a charge.
I would hate for Testudo to miss becuase of the mirror image.
Kegan the Chaotic
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Does Pentosh have something that improves her movement or something?
Darkness rules have someone needing to make Acrobatics checks to move faster than half speed. That -4 Dex from the smoke would make this even more difficult. Kegan has Blind-fight which gives him a number of advantages including not losing Dex to AC and not having to make the Acrobatics check.
When I look at the map, even if there weren't a dragon in the way I don't see how Kegan could catch up with her.
I obviously don't know all her abilities, but wanted to check if things were as portrayed before deciding what Kegan does.
| GM Irish202 |
Does Pentosh have something that improves her movement or something? Darkness rules have someone needing to make Acrobatics checks to move faster than half speed.
She does not, because I made the acrobatics checks in that post. Her bonus after penalties was correct in the rolls.
Acrobatics to hop (DC 10): 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (12) - 1 = 11
Acrobatics to move full speed: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (19) - 1 = 18
Kegan has Blind-fight which gives him a number of advantages including not losing Dex to AC and not having to make the Acrobatics check.
Correct, you would not be penalized for movement through the cloud. It doesn't help with making AoO's, however.
Melisande Shahrizai Courcel
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only things I have to potentially pop an image would be my crossbow or an arcane bolt. I can do that, but I'm going to be very exposed if I do as the bolt only has a 30ft range, so I'd need to move first. The crossbow would be slightly less exposed as I could stay where I am behind the pillar, but there's very low likelihood that I actually hit or even come within 5 to pop an image.
Tereze Amnell
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Locke, when you do you revive given your current mutigen? And if you do, can you get out of there?
Locke "Firebug" Arkham
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I am currently at +4, after that latest heal. Thankfully mutagen lasts for some time.
As for getting to safety, i am unsure of where the alchemist is in regards to my own placement. Unless the dragon moves away, it looks unsafe to move.
Question for the GM.
Standing up from prone is a move that provokes, but how would you rule moving away from prone through flight?
Kegan the Chaotic
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That is pretty cool. Though i do not have UMD, so it'd be of no use to me. Or can alchemists use a wand of their extracts' lists without UMD?
Alchemists can use wands that are on their list.
Alchemist class description says:
An alchemist can utilize spell-trigger items if the spell appears on his formuale list, but not spell-completion items (unless he uses Use Magic Device to do so).
A wand is a spell-trigger item.
There are other problems with the plan, but it would likely take a Knowledge: Arcana roll to realize that.
Kegan the Chaotic
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No need for the identify any longer.
Dragons have blindsight. Invisibility doesn’t work on them. Kegan doesn’t have Kn: Arcana so he wouldn’t necessarily know to warn about that.
Unfortunately the dragon didn’t move far enough away from the entrance either. I was sort of hoping it would follow the Swashbuckler that was taunting it.
Locke "Firebug" Arkham
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Question for the group.
Testudo's charge is for triple dmg, but he might miss with the mirror image in mind.
Might it not be more convenient to move and full attack, until the image is gone? More attacks per round.
Kegan the Chaotic
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Let's see if Tereze or her lantern knock the mirror image out.
Without the triple damage charge, this dragon probably isn't going down.
Kegan the Chaotic
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Sorry, too many different systems using different words for similar things.
In any case, they have a precise sense that can detect invisible creatures and see through smoke.
Melisande Shahrizai Courcel
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Sorry, too many different systems using different words for similar things.
In any case, they have a precise sense that can detect invisible creatures and see through smoke.
Yup. I knew that from my knowledge check earlier and from running dragons in PF1 for many years. Blindsense gives imprecise info - it knew what square I was in, but still had a miss chance.
Tereze Amnell
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I'm guessing that my light rays are going to miss this time.
But I'm keeping you all from dying at least.
Melisande Shahrizai Courcel
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for the moment, anyway. We've got two down and not looking good.
Tereze Amnell
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I'll channel and get you all up in a round or two,
Melisande Shahrizai Courcel
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I was looking at what scenario is next and noticed that today marks the 6th anniversary of the initial recruitment post for this campaign! I particularly enjoyed the 2 year estimate :-).
Kegan the Chaotic
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This is the last part of Dragon's Demand, right? I may drop after this.
Tereze Amnell
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OK, two years may have been a bit aggressive.
I think I'm the last of the original members left. Even the DM has turned over.
Happily we have only had one character death so far.
We had some close calls in this fight though, I thought for sure I was going to lose one of you to that dragon, The damage output was just far more then I can heal in bursts.
Locke "Firebug" Arkham
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We were unfortunate to have the dragon with all strong lackeys altogether.
This could be called our greatest feat yet.
Perhaps we aught give Tereze a complimentary day in a spa. :)
Still, if Ery would indeed return, that would be interesting.
Perhaps we'd have to look for another frontliner? Kegan's suave swordsplay has been quite an asset, and our awesome cavalier is still under the weather.
Locke "Firebug" Arkham
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GM, i assume that by bomb enhancement discoveries not stacking, the burning effect does not apply then.
Explosive bomb's greater blast radius (passive enhancement, looks of it) would still work, would it not?
Tereze Amnell
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I think we need a loot list before we move on.
There is probably some good stuff here, and down below.
Kegan the Chaotic
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Yeah, there probably is.
Kegan likes action, searching and looting really aren't that interesting to him.
Tereze Amnell
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I"m not huge on loot either. But I'd rather not come back and find a pack of kobolds playing with bombs or holding a flaming sword. Or worse a wand of fireballs.
Eryzule, Lord of Tea
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Holy Sh*t.
Saw some of your lives flash before my tea-drinking eyes.
Im still here, waiting for Ery's glorious return.
But yes, this game has had some length to it, for sure.
So... Who all is left for active play?
Melisande Shahrizai Courcel
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We've got four players right now, though I think Kegan mentioned possibly dropping after the module concludes. That would leave Locke, Tereze and myself with Testudo on bot due to personal reasons.
Tereze Amnell
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That will be an interesting selection.. No front liners.
But we would love to have you back Lord of Tea!
Eryzule, Lord of Tea
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Rightio.
If the DM doesn't mind the weakness that is Eryzule, then by all means. I'd love to come enjoy the tom-foolery of you all.
Don't suppose we know the in game date?
| GM Irish202 |
That would leave Locke, Tereze and myself with Testudo on bot due to personal reasons.
I will be leaving Testudo on inactive after this module, as it may be a while before he rejoins us.
If the DM doesn't mind the weakness that is Eryzule, then by all means. I'd love to come enjoy the tom-foolery of you all.
Don't suppose we know the in game date?
By all means, feel free to join! I should be wrapping this up by the end of the week or by beginning of next week. There is a 20-30% chance of one final minor encounter, then RP wrap up for the module afterwards.
Eryzule, Lord of Tea
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Fantastic! Consider me, returned!
Tereze Amnell
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Ok rules question... It's clearly been too long since I played PF1. All the rules sets from multiple editions of D&D/PF are mixing in my head.
Can Oracles cast a 1st level spell using a second level spell slot?
I assume you can with the Heightened Spell Feat, but what about without it. Can you use up a second level slot for a first level spell with no bonuses?
I know prepared spell casters can do this, but I don't remember about spontaneous casters.
I'm trying to know if I can cast protection from Evil with a 2nd level spell slot, or if I am restricted to 2nd level spells.
Kegan the Chaotic
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I believe you can always use a higher level spell slot, but don't remember where that rule is.
I did find this:
If you’re a bard or sorcerer, you can select any spell you know, provided you are capable of casting spells of that level or higher.
That rule only makes sense if you can use a higher level spell slot.
| GM Irish202 |
I believe what you are looking for is Here. Look under the "Spell Slots" section. Regardless, I believe we all collectively agree that you can certainly downcast your 2nd level slot no problem.
Eryzule, Lord of Tea
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sneaky sneaky