GM Chyro |
Guess what, we're going to sandy Qadira. :D
Vassago Ilsidore |
Hey guys, I'll be out of town 9/16 - 9/18, so I probably won't be posting much during then. Bot me as necessary, although hopefully we don't need to combat already! This is a wedding, and nothing bad ever happens to Pathfinders at a wedding <_<
GM Chyro |
Kel, how'd your AC get to 20 from 2 dex and 4 mage armor?
Wizard of the Coast |
sorry - it will be 20 after the shield spell goes up next round... it's currently 16
GM Chyro |
Btw Keera, to beat you to the question of why i make hitting Alacorta easy, despite 26 AC...... the dicebot imitates nature.
Cats eat birds.
Plus...i will be playing this much later in the future, at tier 8-9.
(Shudder)
At least i'll be able to fly...
Keera Airbornt |
I'm able to fly... but thought the elephan will be stopped by Sele or WotC (my bad for not dealying in the first turn).
Spenser Quixote |
In the event that nobody can pull a miracle out of their ass to save me, I'm going to need help coming back. I have 8 Prestige - enough to cover the two restorations I'll need, but not enough for the actual raising (to say nothing of what it will take to raise Lot), and mere pocket-change for gold.
Also: Wait...how did the elephant going WEST kill me? I was NORTH of him, wasn't I?
GM Chyro |
Originally you were, but it rushed you aside the previous turn.
Speaking of Lot, cavaliers get a new mount after 1 week of mourning.
Flavor wise, i'd get you wanting to raise Lot, but wouldn't that take some serious investing, much like yourself?
Spenser Quixote |
Originally you were, but it rushed you aside the previous turn.
Speaking of Lot, cavaliers get a new mount after 1 week of mourning.
Flavor wise, i'd get you wanting to raise Lot, but wouldn't that take some serious investing, much like yourself?
It costs a lot less, actually - and please don't use the "f"-word. I hate it. The game is in your head, not in your mouth.
GM Chyro |
Would the term 'in character' be better?
I couldn't have known that fl... word was something you disliked.
The money cost is less, that's good.
But the removal of negative levels will cost the same, though?
Spenser Quixote |
I couldn't have known that fl... word was something you disliked.
It's okay, that's why I'm telling you.
The money cost is less, that's good.
But the removal of negative levels will cost the same, though?
I'll ask around. When my Witch's Familiar died and was brought back, negative level removal wasn't necessary (then again, it was a mistake that he was treated as dead in the first place, since he was merely taken to 0 hit points).
Spenser Quixote |
Can negative levels from raise dead carry over from adventure to adventure if you can't afford to remove them all in one adventure?
Also, can others use Prestige to pay for others' healing?
Of course, I hope none of that will turn out to matter in this case.
GM Chyro |
I think so, on question one.
I don't know about question two.
They might be answered in the guide to organized play. I'll have a look.
GM Chyro |
From the part about Conditions & Death:
#1) All conditions gained during an adventure, except for permanent negative levels, ability drain that does not reduce an ability score to 0, and conditions that provide no mechanical effect, must be resolved before the end of the session; if these are not resolved the character should be reported as ‘dead.’ Permanent negative levels, ability drain,
and non-mechanical conditions being carried over to the next session should be recorded under the Notes section of the Chronicle sheet.
#2) Please note that players can (and are encouraged to) share or pool their resources in order to bring a dead party member back to life. They may not, however, pool Prestige Points to do so, even if they’re from the same faction.
Spenser Quixote |
Okay, so hopefully we can afford to take care of everything now, if not then we can take care of it next adventure.
Oh, wait, look at this!
GM Chyro |
Yes, i read it before your pointer.
+ points, to it being cheaper than 1k gp.
Keera Airbornt |
Cost of raise dead=5450
Cost of raise animal companion=1450
Cost of restoration=380
If my math is right, of course
I'm ok to pool money to raise Spenser, but I think Lot (and Alacorta) should remain dead. It's a pity for both of us, but raising Lot is a significan amount of money at our level. And that assuming we have enough Spenser, pocket change means you can pay 1/4 of your raise or less?
Spenser Quixote |
Pocket change means 69 gold pieces - but if others won't, I'll pay for Lot's raising myself (with my Chronicle gold, and selling my +1 sword if I must). I have 8 Prestige that I can use to cover the cost of my negative level removals.
I think Lot and Alacorta should both live, and if everyone else will chip in for both, I of course will too. The gold we have now, plus what we get from our Chronicles, should be able to cover it (meaning we might have to do without them for the rest of the Scenario, but get them back before the next).
GM Chyro |
@ Keera, where did you find that table for money costs of the raise dead and resurrection?
I can't find it in the current guide. :/
Still, that leaves the funds to get your suave rear back into action.
It's not cheap, and in PFS, you can't give items to other PCs, other than pool money to pay for a spell/service.
You can only lend them for the mission's duration. This also means you're prevented from simply donating money to their PCs gold.
If you can get together the funds to get Spenser back 'during the mission' (a.k.a. before its end), all the better. He'll have 1 negative level during the mission, as negative levels can get removed 1 a/week.
If it takes the chronicles' fundings to be sufficient, his raising will have to wait till the end.
Spenser Quixote |
The standard price for spellcasting services is here, near the bottom of "Hireling or Service." Minimum caster level is assumed, and the default type of spellcaster in Organized Play for hired-out spellcasting is Cleric or Wizard (other types of spellcasters only if the spell desired - such as raise animal companion - can't be found on the Cleric or Wizard list). Note that the bulk of the cost is for the material component.
Keera's math is correct.
I believe that the loot from this encounter (assuming there is any) can be sold to help with the cost of raising, and is docked from our Chronicles at the end - that's what the DM is doing in another game I'm in right now where my Witch was killed.
I'm 1 away from level 6, so I really hope I can get experience for this adventure.
Keera Airbornt |
I can't say no to anyone stating Alacorta must be revived.
But what do the other 2 group members think?
GM Chyro |
Spenser, in response to your suggestion of selling off any found items, the paragraph on death & conditions also mentions;
Characters can also sell off gear, including the dead character’s gear, at 50% of its listed value to raise money to purchase a spell that will resolve the condition, though they can only do so in a settlement and they cannot sell off any items found during the current adventure that they haven’t purchased.
Btw, i hope your petition on raise companion yields some result in the future.
Wizard of the Coast |
I just checked my last chronicle and Kel has 1129 gold to spare... so I can contribute that much...
GM Chyro |
It's my birthday today.
A slice of birthday cake to all.
Wizard of the Coast |
Happy birthday!!!
Spenser Quixote |
Yes, happy birthday!
Now if only Sele and Vassago could report in to say how much they can contribute to my raising....
GM Chyro |
Thnx.
Vassago mentioned earlier he could afford approx 1/4th of the raise dead.
Spenser Quixote |
Okay, then, that leaves Sele.
The good news is that I just checked his character sheet, and it looks like he has a lot of gold!
Sele the Thorn |
Hmm.. not so sure about throwing out pfs money, which i've saved and not spent on stuff like a Mithril Full Plate 10k worth.
This is also my highest level pfs character.
How much will the raising cost?
GM Chyro |
Raise dead, (thank you Keera for earlier mention), costs 5450gp.
Vassago said he could afford approx 1/4th, 1362,5 gp
WotC has 1129 gp to contribute.
That's 2491,5 gp. That means Spenser's looking for another 3k gold.
Keera Airbornt |
I can't say no to anyone stating Alacorta must be revived.
But what do the other 2 group members think?
That means I'll pay a part of the resurrection, amount pending on what we will do with the animal companions. GM Chyro math is taking account we do NOT revive Lot neither Alacorta.
GM Chyro |
Yup, i've only mentioned the price of raising Spenser himself.
You have money left, to spend right now?
I didn't see any on your page.
Spenser's pockets will stay empty for quite a while. :P
Sele the Thorn |
3k gold is two whole adventures
How does Spenser even have a 10K gold item Mithril full plate, he can't buy it, his fame level allows a max of 8k gold spent on one item.
As far as I see it he has 10 K Gold sitting in his kitty.
Spenser Quixote |
How does Spenser even have a 10K gold item Mithril full plate, he can't buy it, his fame level allows a max of 8k gold spent on one item.
Hmmm...you may be right (although 2 more Fame would do it)! I thought it was one of those "always available" options since it isn't a magic item.
The Guide says:
You may always purchase the following items or equipment as long as you’re in an appropriately sized settlement...
All basic armor, gear, items, and weapons from Chapter 6 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook, including items for Small and Large characters. This does not include equipment made from dragonhide, but it does include equipment made from the other special materials, such as alchemical silver and cold iron (see the Special Materials section on page 154 of the Core Rulebook).
However, if Sele's right about me not being able to buy it yet, then yes, I have a bit of money to burn (and would still have my old masterwork breastplate). If my interpretation was correct, then we can still sell my +1 Greatsword, and/or maybe Lot's +1 Studded Leather Barding (and bear in mind I'm already paying all my Prestige for the restorations).
GM Chyro |
Having to sell stuff might be a bummer, but if it nets you that final XP and PP for completing the mission, it might be worth it?
Spenser Quixote |
Like I said, we can sell the greatsword (total cost 2,350 gp) and barding (total price 1,250 gp) if necessary, and I'm already footing the cost of my restorations.
On the other hand, if Sele's right about my armor and I couldn't have bought it yet to begin with, that frees up a lot of gold and I don't have to sell those two things (but then I also wouldn't have had my sword enchanted yet).
Vassago Ilsidore |
Fame doesn't count towards your armor Spenser as per the passage you posted. So you can have the armor as long as you had the gold.
And again, sorry for the quietness on my end. Personal stuff and all.
And happy late b-day GM!
GM Chyro |
So you'd get 1175 from the sword and 625 fom the barding.
That's a solid 1800.
If that would be your course of action, you'd have 4291,5 gp.
Spenser Quixote |
If I may ask, how hard would it have been to calm the elephant down with a Handle Animal check? I'm kicking myself now for not trying that....
GM Chyro |
DC 25, but it would listen to just 2 tricks.
Keera Airbornt |
Here's a late happy birthday too!!! (I thought I posted it)
To calm down the elephant it will be a DC 25 for what I recall, Keera will need a nat 20. You should have a better chance, but that's not even a 50%.
Raise dead costs 5450gp. If Sepnser is going to sell stuff it ends in 1090 each of us as we're 5 in the party (Spenser, Sele, Keera, WotC and Vassago).
It means Spenser lost his magic weapon, and we let both animal companions to die, but we have him alive. Did we all agree with this?
I do of course. I'll miss Alacorta but being short of money is a good reason to not revive him, neither Lot.
Wizard of the Coast |
1090 I can do - it is just under what I have (1129 would be the max i could go if someone doesn't want to contribute or doesn't have enough).
Spenser Quixote |
I intend to revive Lot with the gold I get at the end, but other than that, fine.
GM Chyro |
Then we're settled, with the selling of the +1 greatsword and everyone paying 1090 gp?
If so, i'll deduct said amount at the chronicles in the end, under purchases.
Spenser Quixote |
I guess so.
Wizard of the Coast |
Sele is the only one who had issues with spending gold.. perhaps we should wait for his input before a final decision?
GM Chyro |
He opted about the amount of gold.
1k is a difference from 3k.
But you're right regardless.
Spenser Quixote |
When I get back up, I'll buy a scythe (18 gold) to last me the rest of this adventure (and possibly next one - or maybe that's when I switch out and DM).