Oltimers' Kingmaker Campaign

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Well here is the board where you all can discuss and compare ideas and whatnot. I'm looking forward to getting started when you all get your characters done.

Since we have five already I'll not be making a char of my own unless I see a real gap.


Male Human Engineer 8

Trying out Avatar 1 of 2, since I will in effect be playing 2 characters with the Summoner. I'm having trouble finding a picture that looks monstrous, but not demonic.


Outsider Eidolon Qudruped 2

Okay, here is Avatar 2, hopefully I can get these to work right, if I can't make two separate stat sheets, I guess I'll have to make a second account. And yes, the Edilion will not look like a horse, actually starting off it will be about the size of a large dog (medium size, e.g. a halfling riding dog).


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)

Okay, scratch the previous jfewx avatar, better to use an alias as suggested. So here is my main Summoner character. His stats are pretty solid, even got most of his past life figured out (thus traits). Just need to finish the details, like his name.


Male Human Engineer / 10th

Lawfull Good huh Jack?
Might be a problem when I break out with my Chaotic Evil dude. ;-)


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)

Well Erik, don't drive me to go all Paladin on you, and smite evil your @$$.


male half elf Ranger lvl 2(prefered class) /sorcerer lvl0 (prefered class) xp2225

Hmmm, didn't really like all the avatar choices but this one will work.

Got a good background story that I'll have to get e-mailed in to or illustrious gm.

Also how we doing our ability scores are we doing a purchase system and if so how many points are we going with.

saw note of 2 regular traits and one campaign trait.

kinda want to flesh out my stats see where character is gonna be.

O ya character gonna be neutral/good most likely with maybe down towards true neutral


Micah42 wrote:
Hmmm, didn't really like all the avatar choices but this one will work.

Yeah, you kinda just have to make do. I think there's a way to upload your own cause I've seen wierd ones on the site, but I couldn't tell you how.

Micah42 wrote:
Got a good background story that I'll have to get e-mailed in to or illustrious gm.

You can place it in your character's profile using the 'spoiler' code. I'll post an example for y'all to look at.

Micah42 wrote:
Also how we doing our ability scores are we doing a purchase system and if so how many points are we going with.

We're doing the 25 point buy from the beginning of the Core Rules.

Micah42 wrote:
saw note of 2 regular traits and one campaign trait.

This is correct.

kinda want to flesh out my stats see where character is gonna be.

Micah42 wrote:
O ya character gonna be neutral/good most likely with maybe down towards true neutral

Sounds good. I think you all know I don't do evil characters in my campaigns. Looks like we just need Jeff and Jason to make an appearance. Not too bad.


Female Human Witch 1 (Favored Class Witch)

Here is one of the characters I made whose sheet I organized using the spoiler buttons.


Edi wrote:
Okay, here is Avatar 2, hopefully I can get these to work right, if I can't make two separate stat sheets, I guess I'll have to make a second account. And yes, the Edilion will not look like a horse, actually starting off it will be about the size of a large dog (medium size, e.g. a halfling riding dog).

You can easily have a second sheet attached to this alias. No problems.


I'm here, just having some trouble deciding what to settle on. I like the image of the druid I've got in my head, but I'm having trouble making it mesh with my meta-game knowledge of how druids end up working (especially with Pathfinder's stupid wild shape changes).


male half elf Ranger lvl 2(prefered class) /sorcerer lvl0 (prefered class) xp2225

Gotta put my son to sleep here and then gonna see if i can get my character set up tonight.


Male Human Engineer / 10th

Ok, Seeing as we don't seem to have a healer. I guess I'll play a cleric. Would be a shame if we all died gruesome deaths on the first adventure.


male half elf Ranger lvl 2(prefered class) /sorcerer lvl0 (prefered class) xp2225

ok has been a while since i made a character if i have missed anything drop me a line to fix it up.

How did you get those nice buttons to hide info under?


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)

Character sheet is up, no posted backstory yet. It is rattling around it my head, I just have to spend the time to put it into words. My spell list isn't done yet, have to still pick those out, and of course I have to figure out my eidolon's stats

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Micah42 wrote:
How did you get those nice buttons to hide info under?

<spoiler> Stuff you want spoilered </spoiler>

Just replace the <> brackets with [] brackets.


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)
Set wrote:
Micah42 wrote:
How did you get those nice buttons to hide info under?

<spoiler> Stuff you want spoilered </spoiler>

Just replace the <> brackets with [] brackets.

The text you want before the <show> button, you put inside the first brace like this:

<spoiler=This is the text for the spoiler>Any text here would be hidden until you push the button</spoiler>

And as said before just replace <> with []. Here is the resulting:

This is the text for the spoiler:
Any text here would be hidden until you push the button


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)

I'm working on my eidolon, does anyone have the PF Bestiary, as there is are feat it lists my eidolon can take, that aren't in the core rules. The primary one of interest is Multiattack, if you wouldn't mind posting the description of that. Thanks.


Multiattack
This creature is particularly skilled at making attacks with its natural weapons.

Prerequisite: Three or more natural attacks.

Benefit: The creature's secondary attacks with natural weapons take only a –2 penalty.

Normal: Without this feat, the creature's secondary attacks with natural weapons take a –5 penalty.

Taken from here

This should be accurate, though I've noticed some big differences between the Cavalier on the SRD page and the one in the Playtest guide.

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Red the Horse Boy wrote:
I'm working on my eidolon, does anyone have the PF Bestiary, as there is are feat it lists my eidolon can take, that aren't in the core rules. The primary one of interest is Multiattack, if you wouldn't mind posting the description of that. Thanks.

Link to Monster feats


male half elf Ranger lvl 2(prefered class) /sorcerer lvl0 (prefered class) xp2225

ok barring me missing anything am good to go on my character. Soooo what next? Think someone needs to kick erik and get him to make that character up.


I've been talking to Erik quite a bit about his character. He's getting it down slowly but surely.

Here's some stuff I noticed on your sheet Micah.

-You may want to change the name of the profile to your character's name. Just a thought.
-Your saves should actually be Fort +3, ref +6, Will +2 with a separate +1 for all mind effecting spells. I think you used the wrong class for your base saves.
-Your weapons include the damage for small versions. I don't think you meant to do this. You should replace those with the 'to hit' bonus with that weapon.
-You used Wis for your knowledge skills. Those use Int.
-Lastly, you might think about changing your Favored Enemy. Take a look at the ranger section of the Player's Guide. It gives suggestions for Favored Enemies that will work well with the campaign.


Red the Horse Boy wrote:
I'm working on my eidolon, does anyone have the PF Bestiary, as there is are feat it lists my eidolon can take, that aren't in the core rules. The primary one of interest is Multiattack, if you wouldn't mind posting the description of that. Thanks.

I do have the Bestiary, but it looks like Set pointed you in the right direction already. Thanks Set.

Also, could you include the math for your skills? I'm having a hard time seeing how you got them. Lastly, I'd set your starting gold at the same as a Bard, since you have the same BAB and Spell progression. So I'm afraid no starting with a chain shirt. But you can always get one latter. :)


Btw, What do you all think of me adding a character? Anything you all think you need? I was thinking a full Arcane squishy if anything. Or do you feel the group is good as is?


Atapax wrote:
Btw, What do you all think of me adding a character? Anything you all think you need? I was thinking a full Arcane squishy if anything. Or do you feel the group is good as is?

I'd guess the group is probably fine, the Summoner has at least some normal Arcane caster power and the Cleric in Pathfinder can actually heal without wasting spells, so Erik can be more smitey and less healy if he wanted to. That said, I'd certainly not be opposed to a real Arcane caster following us around either.


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)
jyuill wrote:
Atapax wrote:
Btw, What do you all think of me adding a character? Anything you all think you need? I was thinking a full Arcane squishy if anything. Or do you feel the group is good as is?
I'd guess the group is probably fine, the Summoner has at least some normal Arcane caster power and the Cleric in Pathfinder can actually heal without wasting spells, so Erik can be more smitey and less healy if he wanted to. That said, I'd certainly not be opposed to a real Arcane caster following us around either.

The Summoner's spell list is a little odd, and has almost no evocation spells. Other than acid splash cantrip, there isn't a DD spell until 3rd level (I think). Having a walking (though squishy) cannon would be useful, but we've got a lot of damage dealing potential between us all.


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)
Atapax wrote:
Red the Horse Boy wrote:
I'm working on my eidolon, does anyone have the PF Bestiary, as there is are feat it lists my eidolon can take, that aren't in the core rules. The primary one of interest is Multiattack, if you wouldn't mind posting the description of that. Thanks.

I do have the Bestiary, but it looks like Set pointed you in the right direction already. Thanks Set.

Also, could you include the math for your skills? I'm having a hard time seeing how you got them. Lastly, I'd set your starting gold at the same as a Bard, since you have the same BAB and Spell progression. So I'm afraid no starting with a chain shirt. But you can always get one latter. :)

Yeah, I'll include the math, the spreadsheet is doing it all for me, but it kindly shows it all. I actually had to double-check it, because I didn't believe it at first.

<sniff> okay I'll downgrade my armor.


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)
Red the Horse Boy wrote:
Atapax wrote:
Red the Horse Boy wrote:
I'm working on my eidolon, does anyone have the PF Bestiary, as there is are feat it lists my eidolon can take, that aren't in the core rules. The primary one of interest is Multiattack, if you wouldn't mind posting the description of that. Thanks.

I do have the Bestiary, but it looks like Set pointed you in the right direction already. Thanks Set.

Also, could you include the math for your skills? I'm having a hard time seeing how you got them. Lastly, I'd set your starting gold at the same as a Bard, since you have the same BAB and Spell progression. So I'm afraid no starting with a chain shirt. But you can always get one latter. :)

Yeah, I'll include the math, the spreadsheet is doing it all for me, but it kindly shows it all. I actually had to double-check it, because I didn't believe it at first.

<sniff> okay I'll downgrade my armor.

Done, you can see the math on my profile now. I like the PF 3 point bonus for putting a rank in a class skill.


Red the Horse Boy wrote:


The Summoner's spell list is a little odd, and has almost no evocation spells. Other than acid splash cantrip, there isn't a DD spell until 3rd level (I think). Having a walking (though squishy) cannon would be useful, but we've got a lot of damage dealing potential between us all.

You're right, the Summoner list is odd. I'm not sure what I was thinking of.


Male Human Cavalier 2

Here's the beginnings of my cavalier. Since my mount advances like a druid's animal companion, should I make a second alias for him?


Acalon wrote:
Here's the beginnings of my cavalier. Since my mount advances like a druid's animal companion, should I make a second alias for him?

You can, or include him in a 'spoiler' button on yours. Since he's not going to be talking and he'll always go on your action, I don't see a need to make a whole other profile for him.

As for a squishy full caster, the reason I suggested it is that the Summoner spelllist is more for buffs. He gets the spells too slowly to really be effective as an actual caster. It's a lot like having a Bard. The spells are great for utility and to fill in a gap, but not as good as an actual caster who is getting DD and AoEs at 1st level, and fireball by 5th.

That said, I'm not sure what kind of caster I'd want. But I do have an idea floating around my head for Ug, the Half-Orc Wizard with a 20 Int. :)


Atapax wrote:
But I do have an idea floating around my head for Ug, the Half-Orc Wizard with a 20 Int. :)

Sometimes you worry me.


Acalon wrote:
Here's the beginnings of my cavalier. Since my mount advances like a druid's animal companion, should I make a second alias for him?

Just out of curiosity... How do you have a +5 shield bonus to AC?


Red the Horse Boy wrote:


Done, you can see the math on my profile now. I like the PF 3 point bonus for putting a rank in a class skill.

I see it now. Just a note... Trait bonuses do not stack. You only get the higher of the two. Sorry. Diplomacy needs to drop by 1.


Male Human Cavalier 2
Atapax wrote:


Just out of curiosity... How do you have a +5 shield bonus to AC?

It's pretty easy, actually. Just get yourself a +3 large shield. As to why my spreadsheet was giving me a +3 shield, I couldn't say.


Acalon wrote:
Atapax wrote:


Just out of curiosity... How do you have a +5 shield bonus to AC?
It's pretty easy, actually. Just get yourself a +3 large shield. As to why my spreadsheet was giving me a +3 shield, I couldn't say.

Hehe Well it was a pretty convenient addition error I must say.

I think that once we get Erik's character loaded up (he's pretty much done) all we're waiting on is Jason.


male half elf Ranger lvl 2(prefered class) /sorcerer lvl0 (prefered class) xp2225

I don't suppose i could get one of those cheep +3 longbows that are laying around in the corner of every other barn ? hmmm ? :P


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)
Atapax wrote:
Red the Horse Boy wrote:


Done, you can see the math on my profile now. I like the PF 3 point bonus for putting a rank in a class skill.

I see it now. Just a note... Trait bonuses do not stack. You only get the higher of the two. Sorry. Diplomacy needs to drop by 1.

Well isn't that annoying. Well I guess I'll have to pick one of the other skills that the Noble Born trait can enhance.


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)

Today I discovered in my daily reading the first recorded RPGer:

Judges 11:1&3:
1 Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty warrior. His father was Gilead; his mother was a prostitute. 3 So Jephthah fled from his brothers and settled in the land of Tob, where a group of adventurers gathered around him and followed him.


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)

I have updated my profile again. I changed out one feat (realized it was pretty much a waste), and added my spells. I'll get my Eidolon on there tonight, and maybe my background too.


Outsider Eidolon Qudruped 2

I LIVE! And I have stats.


Edi wrote:
I LIVE! And I have stats.

Well Erik, looking over the Bestiary I see that I was wrong. Apparently Pathfinder changed monster stats slightly so that they can have multiple primary attack types. The only attack types that take a -5 to hit are ones that are typically really pansy anyway, like a dragon's wing attack.

I don't necessarily agree with this change, but we'll see how it plays out. It'll work against you all much more often than it'll work for you.

You're Pet looks good Horseboy. I assume then that it has six limbs total? Walks on four and has two more for claws? Planning on giving it wings and a breath weapon too? :)


Male Human Engineer / 10th

And here I thought Jack was going to go with a pegasus style. Guess not. Wonder what kind of evil monstrosity he'll end up with.


Outsider Eidolon Qudruped 2

Well I would have wings, IF my master was 5th level. And breath weapons require level 9. I guess having a miniature dragon walking around is too cool for a 1st level character.

Anyway, I currently look more like some kind of dog-centaur abomination, but with a nice heavenly glow about me.

The crazy thing is that each level my master gets to completely rearrange me like some freaking Mr. Potato Head. The only things that have to stay put are my base form (Quadruped), feats, and skills. All additional evolutions can be changed on each level up.

The only reason I have 6 limbs like some furry insect, is my master spent the evening figuring out how best to make me his personal butt-saver. In other words how can I do the most damage in the least amount of time, using the whole 3 evolution points I start with.

I wouldn't surprise me, if in the future I am Huge, have 6 arms, wings, 3 tails, and tentacles; anything to do more damage, sheesh.


Edi wrote:

I wouldn't surprise me, if in the future I am Huge, have 6 arms, wings, 3 tails, and tentacles; anything to do more damage, sheesh.

Just tell your master to be careful. Making you Huge can really backfire. That means no going into the castle, or a building, or most caves, or dungeons. Pretty much you'd only be able to kick booty outside in the open. Even Large can run into problems but at least then you can squeeze into most spaces.


So I think we're still just waiting on Erik and Jason.

<lights a fire under them>


Male Human Engineer / 10th

OUCH!!!

Hey! that's gonna leave a mark!


male half elf Ranger lvl 2(prefered class) /sorcerer lvl0 (prefered class) xp2225

hmmm throws some gas on fire.... anyone got marshmellows?


Male Human Summoner 2 (Pref Class +2 sp)

I have updated my description, complete with backstory. I really got into writing it, so it is pretty long, and hopefully not too boring.


Red the Horse Boy wrote:
I have updated my description, complete with backstory. I really got into writing it, so it is pretty long, and hopefully not too boring.

Looks good. Just keep in mind that your communication with your Eidilon is telepathic, not verbal. Not a big deal, but it does mean that he can only communicate with you.

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