As the thread states, this is an interest check so that I can gauge interest in the Kingmaker AP by Paizo, which I fully intend to run.
Before I go on about the campaign itself, let me lay down a few things about the way this AP will be run that are a bit different than most
1. Kingdom-building will take place in a separate thread, so that the PCs can roleplay out their Kingdom-building decisions and such in the calm times in the campaign without it being at the expense of actual gameplay. Plus it will make referencing past decisions about kingdom-building easier. Campaign lag due to KB is the number one reason for Kingmaker campaigns dying on these PBPs, I have observed in my lurking days on these boards. This solves that quite nicely while still allowing the PCs the opportunity to roleplay their decisions.
2. I will be adding content based on the supplements sold by Legendary Games for Kingmaker. This means more enemies, more roleplay, more loot, and, best of all, some really good foreshadowing for later events in the campaign.
3. All kingdom maps, city maps, and hex maps will be put on Google Drive, so that PCs can place markers and such on explored locations, build the kingdom themselves, ect. Same thing goes with battle maps, as I want PCs to be able to control their own pawns. If someone has a better suggestion for the latter, feel free to let me know.
As for the campaign itself, it will be standard Kingmaker fare, but with the epic feel of it ratcheted up. I aim for it to have a very distinct Game of Thrones-esque vibe with quite a splash of Fey stuff as well.
There will be actual decisions to be made as leaders of the new kingdom, decisions that have real and lasting effects other than small bonuses to kingdom statistics. These decisions can do things like open up new shops filled with specialty goods, earn the PCs unique and powerful equipment, offer new 'side quests', and much more.
I will also allow the PCs the opportunity to explore the rest of the River Kingdoms in the time between adventures. While these sojourns may be relatively short, they WILL offer good roleplay and loot... and some pretty cool encounters as well! This is not even mentioning the effects these sojourns can have on the PCs' kingdom.
Oh and I forgot to mention one thing: the campaign may or may not be gestalt. I am naturally inclined to make the campaign gestalt, but if there is enough pushback, I may rescind that idea.
So, anyone interested?
Interested for sure. Love gestalt too.
Interested
I have a character from a KM game that died.
Will edit her if she is chosen
Cool stuff! Any idea on what you would play? I am allowing all Paizo, 3PP material, and even 3.X material (Which will recieve boosts in power, if you go that route), save technological/sci-fi stuff, and am only disallowing on a case-by-case basis.
I'm interested. My Occultist [Tome Eater] is ready to go. Would rather not do gestalt.
My previous KM character. Seth here
Btw. Will you allow race builder? And how many points if u do. Just asking. Since i might change it up a bit from whats in profile
I am not adverse to gestalt. Its fun =^^=
I would defiantly be interested in this. I have wanted to play Kingmaker for some time but I never seem to make the cut. Never played a gestalt so I could go either way. Not sure what I would pick yet. Would I be handicapped picking a mount build?
I would defiantly be interested in this. I have wanted to play Kingmaker for some time but I never seem to make the cut. Never played a gestalt so I could go either way. Not sure what I would pick yet. Would I be handicapped picking a mount build?
I played Book 1, with this character, and read what other people have said about the game. Mount builds are a nice/good to have for this AP =^^=
I would be interested in a Musketmaster if there are guns allowed. Probably taking inquisitor, cleric or warpriest to go with it.
Fighter/rogue
Or
Fighter/(arcane user)
Planning to maybe go Arcane Archer
Unless my idea for a race builder race is aproved...
Have a few other ideas then =^^=
I still want to play a kobold in Kingmaker Gestalt would take a little bit of bite out of it. You into monstrous races at all?
I am interested.
I, too, am interested. You seem like you've planned this out really well. Gestalt is a fairly alluring prospect too.
Im excited about this concept! Very interested!
yep, love gestalt. Played this live when it came out into book 4 but the game died. Never got out of boot 1 here on the boards.
Interest is piqued. Gestalt is always great, too, because it makes me feel so stronk! ໒(*w*)७
I'd love to as well, although I should mention I'm DMing Kingmaker myself, so I dunno how that would affect your decision making process. Also, already in your WotW game, so if you'd rather give a number of other people a shot, I'll back out.
If not, I have a few really few characters I'd be interested in trying, depending on how a separate recruitment thread works out. I'm part of recruitment for a game going on in Galt at the moment, and if I don't get selected I'd love to pitch my Swashbuckler/Slayer for this game. He is/was a Gray Gardener, who in this case would have left Galt for whatever reason.
If he does get picked, I'm not sure. I'd think of something.
I'm going to bow out, good luck everyone. Kill some bandits for me!
If it's gestalt, would you be good with an unfettered eidelon as a character? This would be using the Eidelon table from the Summoner for the Eidelon half of the gestalt, and one or more classes for the other half of the gestalt.
In other words, half a class (Summoner without a caster or spellcasting) on one half, and a full class on the other half, of the gestalt.
Disclosure, also running King Maker.
If it's gestalt, would you be good with an unfettered eidelon as a character? This would be using the Eidelon table from the Summoner for the Eidelon half of the gestalt, and one or more classes for the other half of the gestalt.
In other words, half a class (Summoner without a caster or spellcasting) on one half, and a full class on the other half, of the gestalt.
Disclosure, also running King Maker.
Applying the gestalt to the eidolon itself? Huh. That's wierd. Never thought of that.
Posting My interest!
Applying the gestalt to the eidolon itself? Huh. That's wierd. Never thought of that.If it's gestalt, would you be good with an unfettered eidelon as a character? This would be using the Eidelon table from the Summoner for the Eidelon half of the gestalt, and one or more classes for the other half of the gestalt.
In other words, half a class (Summoner without a caster or spellcasting) on one half, and a full class on the other half, of the gestalt.
Disclosure, also running King Maker.
I originally played Shi as an Eidolon only, just using the Eidolon advancement table from Summoner class (although the GM allowed me to take a class level at 4, 8, 12, 16, and 20 where I wouldn't get a hit die normally). Was fun, and not overpowered (although some how people get the idea that half a class is more powerful than a whole class, mindboggle).
I'd like to finally get into a Kingmaker.
Question: I had an idea for a LE kobold cleric of Asmodeus that I think would be hilarious to join in (he's not so much evil as he is... egocentric... and demanding... think less Marvel's Dr. Doom and more Plankton from Spongebob). If it goes gestalt, I might toss in Druid... ALL THE DOMAINS!
I originally played Shi as an Eidolon only, just using the Eidolon advancement table from Summoner class (although the GM allowed me to take a class level at 4, 8, 12, 16, and 20 where I wouldn't get a hit die normally). Was fun, and not overpowered (although some how people get the idea that half a class is more powerful than a whole class, mindboggle).Applying the gestalt to the eidolon itself? Huh. That's wierd. Never thought of that.If it's gestalt, would you be good with an unfettered eidelon as a character? This would be using the Eidelon table from the Summoner for the Eidelon half of the gestalt, and one or more classes for the other half of the gestalt.
In other words, half a class (Summoner without a caster or spellcasting) on one half, and a full class on the other half, of the gestalt.
Disclosure, also running King Maker.
Hmm. It might be more powerful than fighter, actually. A single-class eidolon obviously isn't more powerful than a single-class summoner - that one has both eidolon and summoner abilities.
In gestalt though, it's an Eidolon//something vs a Summoner//something with an eidolon on the side. In this case, it's a little different. Obviously, the summoner has more stuff going on. That said, if want you want is raw fighting ability, you get a lot more of that out of the eidolon gestalt. You also might or might not get better stats.
More powerful overall? I honestly have no idea, I'd guess not, but it isn't a clear-cut case. It's wierd. That said, you could just have made a synthesist in the first place, and it's a definate step down from that, so you're probably in the clear.
I have always wanted to try a Cavalier. Not sure if I would mix it with Alchemist with the Grenadier archetype, Slayer with the Vanguard archetype, or go Paladin since I have yet to play one. How do you feel about leadership?
This is the character concept I have for a Kingmaker campaign. If going gestalt, I would probably go with a social-leaning rogue for the other side.
Hmm. It might be more powerful than fighter, actually. A single-class eidolon obviously isn't more powerful than a single-class summoner - that one has both eidolon and summoner abilities.In gestalt though, it's an Eidolon//something vs a Summoner//something with an eidolon on the side. In this case, it's a little different. Obviously, the summoner has more stuff going on. That said, if want you want is raw fighting ability, you get a lot more of that out of the eidolon gestalt. You also might or might not get better stats.
More powerful overall? I honestly have no idea, I'd guess not, but it isn't a clear-cut case. It's wierd. That said, you could just have made a synthesist in the first place, and it's a definate step down from that, so you're probably in the clear.
Well, Summoner is kind of hard to ballpark, depending on how you build it it can be uber or sucky. Same with the Eidelon.
Considering I've spec'd Shi usually as a scout (Eidelon/Rogue), he's mostly good at stealth and perception. He does keep his natural attacks (so that's useful) but being small, he's at a disadvantage in melee. Add in all the issues with circles of protection from good, banishment, and etc... having to gate him back in if he dies, rather than resurrection...
Although I think as he progressed in levels his 'class' half gestalt would be variable (rogue first, then possibly cleric or warpriest for a few levels, just depends on how the game goes and what we need).
Hmm. It might be more powerful than fighter, actually. A single-class eidolon obviously isn't more powerful than a single-class summoner - that one has both eidolon and summoner abilities.In gestalt though, it's an Eidolon//something vs a Summoner//something with an eidolon on the side. In this case, it's a little different. Obviously, the summoner has more stuff going on. That said, if want you want is raw fighting ability, you get a lot more of that out of the eidolon gestalt. You also might or might not get better stats.
More powerful overall? I honestly have no idea, I'd guess not, but it isn't a clear-cut case. It's wierd. That said, you could just have made a synthesist in the first place, and it's a definate step down from that, so you're probably in the clear.
Well, Summoner is kind of hard to ballpark, depending on how you build it it can be uber or sucky. Same with the Eidelon.
Considering I've spec'd Shi usually as a scout (Eidelon/Rogue), he's mostly good at stealth and perception. He does keep his natural attacks (so that's useful) but being small, he's at a disadvantage in melee. Add in all the issues with circles of protection from good, banishment, and etc... having to gate him back in if he dies, rather than resurrection...
Although I think as he progressed in levels his 'class' half gestalt would be variable (rogue first, then possibly cleric or warpriest for a few levels, just depends on how the game goes and what we need).
Out of interest, what'd be your base form? Are you going after the pounce evolution?
Well, Summoner is kind of hard to ballpark, depending on how you build it it can be uber or sucky. Same with the Eidelon.
Considering I've spec'd Shi usually as a scout (Eidelon/Rogue), he's mostly good at stealth and perception. He does keep his natural attacks (so that's useful) but being small, he's at a disadvantage in melee. Add in all the issues with circles of protection from good, banishment, and etc... having to gate him back in if he dies, rather than resurrection...
Although I think as he progressed in levels his 'class' half gestalt would be variable (rogue first, then possibly cleric or warpriest for a few levels, just depends on how the game goes and what we need).
Out of interest, what'd be your base form? Are you going after the pounce evolution?
I am very interested in both gestalt and standard versions.
race: I almost always play a half-orc
class possibilities I would like to choose from:
1. investigator inventor (1 of the anachronistic adventurer classes from rogue genius games, not in d20pfsrd link to pdf for purchase)
2. gunslinger (since the OP says all Paizo sv Technology/Sci-Fi will modern firearms be possible to be fashioned later as, IMO, they do not overpower when compared to what other classes do from levels 11-15?)
3. mighty godling is cool but I'm not sure how a DM will feel regarding its power scale...
a few others...
Good luck to all, to many people already, but otherwise color me interested.
Quadruped, but buying two arms.
Eventually flight and pounce, but starting off with +8 Stealth and +8 Disable device evolutions.
I am interested. Never played kingmaker before. I realize that by the time you see this post your eyes will be glazed over with the super-long list of applicants and therefore my post will barely stand out! Even so, consider me interested.
Also, I recommend Zartana and Rysky above as shweet players.
Woof.
Much thanks for the vote of confidence
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Oh wow! Lots of interest for this campaign! I will try to have a campaign up in around 24 hours.
Guess i have to compile all my questions into one post when the recruitment thread pops up
=^^=
Looking forward to trying to be interesting enough to get picked
Adventure Paths always get tons of interest and Kingmaker is one of the favorites. I've always wanted to play a Cavalier in Kingmaker, but it tends to be one of the more popular Kingmaker classes so I have yet to get into a Kingmaker campaign. Two of the campaigns I am part of seem to be dying off a bit and the other is pretty slow, so I think I could manage another game, so colour me interested.
interested for sure.
One thing I've noticed over the last 4-6 months or so, is that KM is NEVER short on interested players...
I am one of them. ( I have never played any of it, and have tried to avoid spoilers as much as possible, nor have I done any in depth review of the building options )
I would like to use this alias/character concept, and have no problems stripping it back down to L1 uRogue/Aegis, as opposed to it's current leveled, non Gestalted state. (Though it does give a good idea of what I would end up with mid campaign)
Your limits seem pretty wide open at this point, did you have any interest in any of the Unchained options? (If Unchained Rogue is off the table I can probably juggle things a bit)
Thinking on it a bit, Assuming Campaign traits are required, I'd prefer Pioneer.
Possible BackStory adjustments: If the Andoran trait is still permitted, I'll tie to the Andoran town of Bellis, on the Sellen River, and followed that up into Brevoy within the last decade, with a brief stay in Kyonin, and an even briefer stay in Woodsedge (Galt), a matter of less than a week.