HammerJack |
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#1: Holy oil. I dont know of any rules supporting this at all, so that ball is totally in you court, if you want to homebrew that up or say it doesn't work.
#2: Flour and invisible creatures. I'd take a look at page 467, Concealment and Invisibility, for this.
Other effects might make an invisible creature hidden or even observed but concealed. For instance, if you were tracking an invisible creature’s footprints through the snow, the footprints would make it hidden. Similarly, throwing a net over an invisible creature would make it observed but concealed for as long as the net is on the creature.
I'd treat throwing flour over an invisible creature to make it Concealed instead of Hidden as another good example, along with the net, there.
Pirate Rob |
Combining items like that is generally problematic as it lets a little bit of cash bypass action economy expectations in a serious way. I wouldn't do it, but you do you.
See the 6th level alchemist feat Combine elixirs for a rules supported way to do so.
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larsenex |
Again thank you all for the replies. Seems there is no 'hard rule' on having a concoction which does both Holy water and Holy oil properties.
I will likely rule that its a higher level item and once they get a recipe or such they can mix it up I suppose. Id rule the cost is 1.5x both Holy Water and Oil as the oil has be a special type.
My friend is old school and is using old 1rst and 2nd edition tricks we thought up in the 80's. The flour would work so I would rule they would at least be concealed if not hidden.
graystone |
larsenex wrote:The hard part is finding the right square to dump the flour.
My friend is old school and is using old 1rst and 2nd edition tricks we thought up in the 80's. The flour would work so I would rule they would at least be concealed if not hidden.
Yep, if you know the square to throw the flour in you could use attack into that square and save yourself an action. It really only helps you if you can somehow cover all the squares to track which square afterwards.
As to hidden vs concealed... I'd say flour on the ground changes invisible to hidden: you can target the correct square but can't tell exact positioning. If you cold actually throw flour on the invisible creature, concealed seems fair.
Lucerious |
Dr A Gon wrote:You probvably don't want to throw fireballs if there's fine powder in the air. Air and flour is quite explosive.Is it a power or an ooze though [ooze infers a viscous fluid creature]? I know dust explosions can happen, though some people might want to cause that. ;)
You all may have just discovered the recipe for fantasy napalm.
Themetricsystem |
You could ALWAYS leave a cache of +1 Holy Moderate Alchemists Fire (Yes you can place Runes on Bombs/Consumable Weapons though reasons to do so are mostly along the lines of "I want to waste as much money as fast as possible with no possible way of recouping), say 10 or so, as loot that the party finds so that they don't have to deal with the pain of paying a CRAZY amount of gold coin just for this and it's legal, within level restrictions, has rules that govern how it works, and it really isn't so powerful at all given that they'll be consumed as they're used.
graystone |
Lucerious wrote:You all may have just discovered the recipe for fantasy napalm.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire
It's just that, plus soap to make it sticky, isn't it?
It may even have had soap becuse the original reicpe is lost.
The 'do at home' recipe for napalm is a aluminum based soup mixture plus diesel, jet fuel, AVgas or gasoline. Fun fact, flamethrowers are legal in 48 US states.