
| Hendron | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Oh, boy. This is where my total ignorance of game mechanics and sheer love of storytelling becomes obvious! I had to Google Bloatmage, hahaha... I mostly chose what I thought would fit the character, with a few minor tweaks for the safety and benefit of those around me! I believe it was suggested by Naali for me to look at my Dex scores, although I was pretty ignorant about the applications of those stats in gameplay as it was. So if anything looks like a precursor to a totally ridiculous build, or like I'm planning on initiating Operation Secret Hilarity with my horrendous stat assignment, don't worry: I'm just a newb!

| Naali | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Hendron and I have played D&D together (me as the GM mostly) in person on and off for a few years, but him and the other player that we play with usually form odd parties and I just always built around their strengths.
Suppose I could have recommended more standard stat allocation for a pre-written adventure path, woops haha.

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            Hey, we were all newbs at some point, Hendron. :)
There's two main reasons you might want an above-average Dex as a sorcerer:
1) Hitting enemies with ranged attack spells (like scorching ray, etc. You may not actually take any of those spells! But if you do ever take them, having a better Dex will make it easier to land those hits)
2) Defense. Since you can't wear armor, you'll be stuck with three main things for defense: 1) mage armor, 2) shield spell, and 3) having a decent dexterity. If, for instance, you have a 14 Dex rather than a 10 Dex, that's a +2 increase to your AC, right there.
(Also, it'll hit your Reflex save, so three main benefits, really.)
None of this is statement that you NEED a higher dex, it's just a reason that many sorcerers tend to have it.

| Hendron | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Ohhhhh. This all makes sense to me. Yeah, these are all very good reasons. I guess I never learned my lesson from making low Con toons back in the day during heavy combat APs. Whoops. So, what do you all recommend? Of course I defer on an executive level to Rat King, since he knows exactly what kind of torture I'm in for with that build.

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Oh I have NO problem with Hendron or anyone else running their stats however they like! Variety's the spice of life; That's part and parcel of the fun of Tabletops!
Bloatmages are le no. Pls no. 2Fat4Me.
Buuuuut I have to admit, Dex is always good.

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Naali's suggestion is indeed solid~ :) I mean the only problems you'll ever have will be the usual caster shenanigans.
• How much gear you can reasonably carry
...until Muleback Cords/Bags of Holding are a thing
• Your saving throws
...which is all dice at low levels anyway...unless Paladin Shenanigans [Praise be to Iomedae and her eternal Divine Grace!]
• And of course, how much you feel like hugging the frontline at any given point in time
...Which I assume you don't.
So I think you'll be fine :P

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            You have 19 starting Charisma. "Peashooter" is not the word I'm thinking of.
...says the paladin with 18 Charisma as she flees from the scene.

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            So it's literally just occurred to me that our party has more than a truckton of Charisma. We literally have three trucktons of Charisma.
...Can I take Leadership just for plot purposes? Seriously. Gimme Leadership and Interplanar Prestige. I don't need to hit for billions when the whole damn universe loves/fears us.

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Oh, don't think you're getting out of this, Therrik. Emerald and Gold Gowns. Emerald and Gold Gowns.
You'll be prettier than Gwyn'll ever be.

| GM Rat King | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Yeah, Mime's correct. Unless you're basically useless in combat, no Leadership. More because it cuts down on the headache of trying to run combat with 516849445768732 people all at the same time for me. As I said in the recruitment thread, you can definitely have a non-combat buddy, though. Just keep him/her safe and you'll have your entourage.
In other news, I think I've fixed the weirdness with having multiple gameplay threads. Hopefully. But, if anything goes catastrophically wrong in the next little while, at least we'll know why.

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Roger wilco~! Though I genuinely wasn't going to make a combat/craftbot/etc cohort. NPC non-combat shenanigans is infinitely more my thing in general.
Fingers crossed the threads are cooperating.

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            To be fair, Gwyn at her worst'll almost certainly be channeling Dita von Teese, so I'm really not one to talk. *ahem*
Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't actually shoehorn a couple ranks of Perform in somewhere. For, y'know, reasons. I mean when you can later Call Angels and Archons* to the plane by asking nicely, I think there's space to take a couple liberties here and there.
*and...I think some Inevitables? I always figured Iomedae had a few on Axis that she inherited from Aroden, correct me if I'm wrong. Not that it matters; never gonna use Call Ally unless it's for out-of-combat utility or glorious plot shenanigans.

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|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Well I'm sorry if some of us are less fabulous than the rest. Gwyn would be quick to remind you that all the Ascended were devoid of pointy ears and they seemed to turn out alright, right? (Except Norgorber. Because no one knows or particularly cares.)
I actually thought I was the only member without Darkvision initially. What a pain that would've been.

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Half-Orcs are full Darkvision 60' as well and whilst Hendron isn't aspiring to it, Drowblooded Half-Elves can obtain it in exchange for gaining Light Blindness.
My solution's still the same; grumble at the dark and carry a big ol' fancy wand of Daylight. I do hope none of you are relying on Stealth checks because Gwyn's bonus is listed on my physical notes as "Hahahaha-No."
The fact you're a Clouded Sight Oracle went entirely over my head. That's definitely something to consider~
EDIT: Dangit Therrik, ya ninja. And I concur, Naali's art has never failed to bring a smile to my day (ᐛ)ᕗ

| Therrik | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            NIINNJJAAAAAAAA
I took away stealth when rejiggering my skill ranks, so at the moment I'm fairly noisy too. I might change that down the road, since darkvision at least lets one play scout with the lighting problem, but, for now, clang clang clang.

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Took a break from studying, realized something
"Fine. I see how it is! I don't need your crusade! I'll make my own damn crusade! With blackjack! And hookers!" ヽ(#`Д´)ノ
And so goes the tale of how Gwyn later became the Patron Saint of Human Supremacy.
"...But like no seriously guys it's cold out here. And lonely..." (;﹏;)

| Naali | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            If anyone wants earplugssssss...
Most valuable possession, of course.
I dunno, that bag of casting powder that you never used in our last campaign was such a good buy. Or maybe the leeching kit, or the 20 lbs of soap.

|  Gwyneth Koschei | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Never leave home without a crowbar. I guarantee that within the first couple of hours of any given session, I'll have need for a crowbar.
Locked door? Crowbar.
Improvised Weapon? Crowbar.
Barbarian Diplomacy? Crowbar.
It's multifunctional. It's cheap. *does a check* It's also not on Gwyn's character sheet. Faq.

| Therrik | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            I had it on Therrik's sheet, and then I took it off, because encumbrance. Crowbars are heavy. T___T So, yes, it's guaranteed we'll need one! :P
eta: the other thing I had on his sheet, and took off for weight reasons, was a shaving kit. The weight of those fifty doses of shaving powder adds up, lol. So I guess he'll just be whiskery for a while.
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