GM Netherpongo's Champion's Chalice I (Inactive)

Game Master Nathan Goodrich

The check that the aid is for would consume an advantage, but the aid wouldn't.

The check that the aid is for would consume an advantage, but the aid wouldn't.

Ah, my bad, I misunderstood your earlier post about aiding another using a character's attempt for that phase...

So how do we stand for the second phase? Was Pregens attempt an Aid Another or an advantage check of his own?

They didn't say they were aiding, so that was a check. I'm confirming a detail of the rules.

They didn't say they were aiding, so that was a check. I'm confirming a detail of the rules.

Makes sense. That puts us at max advantage for phase two, correct?

That's the detail I'm confirming: Nalina failed on her check, but I'm not sure whether that uses an advantage or not. In case it doesn't, keep making advantage checks for now.

Pethwen is up for the Forced March. Let's do it.

Tomorrow if we want to start out at a hustle, we should be able to do two hustles with Pethwen's Marching Chant spell in effect which negates any hustling penalties...and perhaps still a forced march after that if that is even legal?

That sounds good to me...

I'm only realizing this now... can Pethwen even use Forced March on the whole party? It affects targets per level (5) when the party has six party members an a companion. She could cast it twice, but she can't concentrate on both spells at the same time.

You could just leave some of your better Fort-save party members out of the spell or whatever, I suppose, so it isn't useless.

Also keep in mind that if you guys get interrupted by an encounter mid-travel phase, Pethwen would have to use all of her standard actions to keep Forced March going during the encounter (and make any other necessary concentration checks if that becomes a thing). If the spell drops, you wouldn't get any benefit for the spell for that travel phase.

Sound fair?

We still need travel phase actions from Ingrge & Jiro. Again, feel free to make advantage rolls if that is what your character would have done. I still haven't gotten the rules question down yet.

My bad... I had assumed since I thought our advantages were at 3, that I wouldn't need to post...will do now what I would have done...

You're fine. I'm being weird about this rules thing. If the failed advantage check doesn't count against your max advantages (what I am trying to determine) then your advantage check might still count.

While I'm in the process of remembering things, did Nalina remember the party's +2 on Gather Supplies (and Craft Tools) that you got from your research in the library? If not, the check would have been two higher and you'd have food 12 food units.

Pethwen's hawk probably shouldn't starve, though, so maybe it doesn't matter much?

No, I didn't remember to add that +2. Thanks for mentioning it, that means we wouldn't need to spend a phase collecting food the next day, unless the hawk companion counts as a full "person" for that.

Little hawk eats mice on the road :)

Sorry for the longer than 24 hour delay. Internet connectivity in rural India can be a bit spotty sometimes.

Sorry for spotty posting from Pethwen the last couple of days as well. It has been a difficult couple of days but I should be back to normal posting rate by tomorrow. Not sure that Pethwen is greatly needed right now, but feel free to prod for an action from her or bot her if there is too long of a delay.

It isn't important to the scenario at this point, but the way that Crowe has been talking makes me wonder if everyone understands the nation of Sargava. In particular, he called them 'Cheliax lovers' this time and that is definitely not the case. Sargava was founded by the Chelaxian empire 500 years ago. That was before Cheliax went all devil-worshippy though (about 70 years ago). After that, Sargava rebelled against the empire which is why they pay pirates for protection: they aren't strong enough to fight the Chelaxian navy on their own.

It's entirely possible that Crowe (as played here) just doesn't distinguish between the prior Chelaxian empire and the current Asmodeus-worshiping one led by House Thrune, so I'm not saying that they are doing it wrong...it just makes me wonder if everyone understands what is going on.

Sorry, guys I know Sargava but I just like to play Crowe like this. ;-) I hope I do not go on your nerves with his attitude!

No apologies needed. If you were doing it out of ignorance, that would be something I'd want to correct. If you are doing it on purpose that's just roleplaying.

Jiro is enlightened by the magnanimous deity-like being who controls the world around him. He was unaware of the subtleties, but still feels like he hasn't made any faux pas in regards to this new information. ;-)

Let me know when you guys are done distributing your gear, and then we'll move on. Looks like you are close.

Doesnt, look, so far like anything she can use.

In a game, if you find a spellbook like we just did do you get to keep it or how do you get to use it to learn new spells?

You can spend money to copy the spells into your own spellbook. I don't remember the exact costs, but it's something like a quarter of the cost of a scroll, maybe? The costs are all listed in the Magic section of the core rulebook.

It's also possible to prep spells out of someone else's spellbook, although there's a Spellcraft check (I think?) involved. Learning spells this way is cheaper than learning them without some other access because you don't have to pay anyone half the cost of scribing a spell to get them to let you use their spellbook. Or whatever.

I'm out of time this morning, but I'll plan on moving the group along after I get home.

Does the spellbook and the spells on it go on a Chronicle then?

Without commenting about this particular chronicle, most spellbooks that I've seen don't appear on chronicles. The discount for learning spells that way can be a bit weird in terms of documentation. You can also get the same discount by sharing spells with a PC.

I'm going to be at a PFS convention starting tomorrow morning through Saturday inclusive and will likely be kind of quiet until then. I'll try to post something tonight, but no promises.

OK, I'm out tomorrow & Saturday. While I'm gone I have a few questions now that combat stats are popping up. Sorry to pick at numbers, but it helps me if I know where everything comes from.

Ingrge, we covered your damage already and I'm great there. I didn't understand your attack line either. I see

PBS, Precise Shot, Weapon Focus, Flurry of Blows, Deadly Aim, Deadeye Bowman

Longbow: 1d20 + 10 + 1 + 1 + 1 - 2 - 2 ⇒ (11) + 10 + 1 + 1 + 1 - 2 - 2 = 20

I'm not sure how you get to a base attack of +10 without including weapon focus. My quickie math would suggest:

+4 base attack +5 dexterity +1 weapon focus

Then you have three +1 values in there. Out of the feats you mentioned, point-blank shot is one of those. Precise doesn't give a bonus, Weapon Focus does but I'm not sure that shouldn't be part of the +10. Flurry could be where it comes from (only a -1 penalty to flurry attacks at L2 monk) but it usually isn't expressed as a bonus like that. Deadly Aim is a penalty and Deadeye didn't apply. So I guess I'm only 1 off of your numbers.

Nalina: I'm not sure how you are getting to +9 damage on your attacks. After I talked it over with a friend, our guess is that you are using a pre-errata version of Shifter's Edge. The feat only gives 1/2 level to damage post-errata, not full level. My quickie math suggests +3 strength +2 shifter's edge for a total of +5 damage. And I'm not sure how the bite benefits from shifter's edge at all.

Edit: I figured out the bite thing. Catching up on Shifters is hard.

Sorry to be a pain. I'm not familiar enough with either of your classes to be sure I'm getting it right, but I still need to make sure I understand what's happening.

I figured out Ingrge's thing. I was missing his masterwork enhancement bonus...if I'm right about the other two +1s being weapon focus & flurry. I still think the notation is weird, but it adds up.

Yeah I think you're correct about the shifters edge issue, I forgot to update that. It should be +6 normally in tiger form, but without my amulet it's +5 damage. Will update the damage listings in my profile.

She really isnt combat saavy :)

Have fun at your convention

A question for the group. The numbers in the current encounter you are in are pretty badly messed up. At a quick glance, it looks like some of the errors are in your favor and some are to your detriment. Strictly by the rules I need to run the encounter as-written. If everyone responds saying they want me to review the stat blocks and fix them, though, I'll do that.

If you think, at a quick glance, that the detriments and favors mostly weigh out, I wouldn't worry about it. If you think it pushes the encounter far one way or another, I'd be happy to put on my VC hat and help you review if you'd like, or just trust you to do so if you'd prefer to handle it on your own. :)

One critter has HP that are from the low tier and gets diced up way too fast while the others appear to have too-high damage I think. If it turns out that the damage is right, I'd just leave it all alone.

Leave it as it is!

That's sufficient to end that particular discussion, then. I'd want unanimous agreement to change it. Thanks!

I don't mind a little bit of a challenge. :D

:)

I was going to get a post up this morning but paizo.com failed on me while I was writing one of my posts. I don't have time now, but I'll try to get to it tonight.

It was acting up for me as well.

I'll be hiking to and camping at the bottom of the Grand Canyon in the wee hours of tomorrow morning (Tuesday)...I won't get back up top till Friday afternoon and I'll be incommunicado as phone and internet connections are dead down there. Please bot me as needed and I'll be back with you all at the end of the week...

NOTE: I have a 'Bot Me' spoiler on my profile page that has my more common rolls/checks for easy cutting and pasting...as for the advantage rolls, just use whichever gives us better chance for success

Have fun!

I'm out of the canyon but will be driving back to Georgia from Arizona...should be able to post by phone...

I had a graduation reception to go to last night and then I taught in the morning. Came home to take a nap and I am catching up now.

Got back yesterday afternoon but was pretty wiped out from the hike and then the drive back...catching up now...

Hooray, one more week of school. We will be done next Wed.

I'm tied up with errands and such for the next day or two. I should be posting again by Sunday if not before.

So, my flight for Seattle leaves tomorrow at 1:30 PM. I expect I'll make one more major update to all my games tomorrow morning, and then will be on and off at best through Monday night. PAIZOCON!!!

Have fun at Paizocon, those who are going!

I'm missing some combatants for the current party turn. Crowe, Rivani & Jiro. Hopefully they'll pipe in soon.

Yesterday was the last day of school and I came home exhausted. There was a death in the family this morning.