
Giri of the Chenlun Mountains |

I personally like the Background Skills and Innate Item Bonus subsystems as it basically opens up options to players. I hate having to get Cloak of Resistance or Ring of Protection, etc.
The others, I can take or leave, but I wouldn't mind using them!

Virgil Ardelean |

I'm happy with Background Skills and Innate Item Bonus, they are more background things so won't impact gameplay too much. I'll obviously use what ever the group prefers.

Zadok Allendil |

Sorry, we got back to Wisconsin last night but lost power. If I don't get time to read over things later today while in the lab, hopefully the power will be back on when I get home and I can be ready to move forward tonight.

Zadok Allendil |

Zadok Allendil wrote:@GM: Zadok isn't showing up beneath the campaign for me and he's not showing up as the default alias. Can you check that he is marked as active in the campaign tab?Is it solved now?
Yeah, it's showing up now so whatever you did worked. Thanks!

Thorgull Kjalderssen |

Sorry, folks, I got back yesterday and needed some time to settle back.
I took some time to have a look at Thorgull's and I wanted to know if I could do those two changes:
1) Instead of taking "summon good monster" as my mythic feat, I'd gladly take "Mythic Spell Lore" and select "Mythic Dust of Twilight".
2) I'd like to change my 1st tier archmage path ability. Thus, I'll drop "arcane endurance" and, if you allow it, take the "flexible school", with the void elemental school, symbolizing the touch of the void Thorgull felt when he were infused with the mythic power of Baba Yaga's herald.

Thorgull Kjalderssen |

Nice! I'll update Thorgull's sheet as soon as I can. :)

Thorgull Kjalderssen |

I don't think we did. I'm all for background skills and innate bonus item. I like the potion and disease rule as well.

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Looking over my build, I notice that I get a few "bonded" items. Giri's Legendary item will be his Tetsubo and I am thinking that his Arcane Bond will be his helmet (from Arcane Bloodline). Finally, his bracers will be his Bonded Holy Symbol (from Ecclesitheurge archetype). Is that cool?
Very cool. Great introduction and description, by the way! I'll leave the opportunity for all the other players to react before moving the game forward.

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Giri's master sent him on a sacred mission, to investigate a nearby village which used to be known for its fertile ground, but which ended up being covered with heavy snow overnight. "Investigate the cause of this," the master ordered with a stern gaze, "and solve this problem. Our purpose is to protect these villagers, who see that we are fed and may focus our very selves to inner perfection. You know the snow, but they don't. Help them out."
You set out for your travels, with the secret hope of claiming the master's mantle once he decided to step down if you accomplished the mission he gave you. Upon arriving to the snow-covered village, you quickly understood that there was more at work than a simple weather alteration - the will of a god (or perhaps a being of similar power) was undoubtedly at work. You sought out the core of the problem and found a winter portal in the middle of what once were rice fields. The portal was guarded by tricksy fey, but they proved no match for your mettle. Upon reaching the conclusion that you wouldn't be able to solve the problem without stepping through the portal, you boldly strode into it and found yourself in another snow-packed, albeit very foreign, land.
There, you stumbled upon the agonizing figure of a white rider bearing crystalline antlers on his forehead and with rime as her hair. She introduced herself as Baba Yaga's White rider, a potent agent of the fabled Witch Queen. In her last moments, she revealed to you that the Endless Winter was coming because Elvanna, the daughter of the Witch Queen, betrayed the crone by trapping her and sought to extend her domination onto the entire Golarion. She practically begged you to accept the heavy responsibility of her mantle, which would allegedly conjure enough power in you to accomplish your quest. Your first step is to close the winter portal affecting your land, but Baba Yaga's liberation can only come from unshackling her mythic chicken-legged hut, in Whitethrone. Provided you accepted, the White Rider then vested you with her own power, allowing you to undergo Ascension as she drew her last breath.
Leaving the rime-covered corpse behind, you reached a nearby town, Waldsby, where you will surely find clues as to where the winter portal lies.
For more information, you can read the party's encounter with the Black Rider (posts #494 to 506), which is very similar to your encounter with the White Rider.

Giri of the Chenlun Mountains |


Giri of the Chenlun Mountains |

Congratulations!!!! How long until they can create an alias and join the game? ;-)

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Regarding house rules, one thing has been bothering me (as well as EF, that I'm sure of) for a long time, and Unchained hasn't proposed a solution to solve this ongoing problem: feat tax.
Basically, more and more feats are being released, but some feats are still must-haves. EF proposed a version of a house rule which I liked, and I recently read an article proposing an alternate, simple way to deal with feat tax.
I'd like to know what you guys think. If a majority of people show interest, we could implement them as well, leaving room for more interesting feats.

Zadok Allendil |

That's funny how similar some of those changes are to my own houserules, like combining multiple maneuvers into one feat and making Power Attack/Combat Expertise/Deadly Aim available to everyone.
Honestly, as a caster I don't see those changes affecting me at all so I'll leave it up to everyone else.
I just realized I never updated Zadok to account for the Background skills and Innate bonus system. I've just been struggling to keep up with my games the past two weeks. This week should be better though so I'll try to update tonight or tomorrow.

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Feel free to make the Background skills arrangement at your earliest convenience.
Yeah, it's really close! Regarding Innate Item Bonuses, the only person affected by it seems to be Virgil, with his Cloak of the Yeti, which now acts as as Cloak of Resistance +2 on top of its normal abilities.
I'll post links to the House Rules in the Campaign Info sheet.

Thorgull Kjalderssen |

Definitely most interesting! :)
More for my puss in boots character from Skull and Shackles than Thorgull. Still. It's an improvement of the gameplay.

Zadok Allendil |

Ok, finally updated for the Background skills. Zadok actually already had three ranks of Profession (astronomer) so I just reallocated those elsewhere and also picked up Profession (soothsayer) since it seemed the most appropriate. I might spread them out to a few more Profession and/or Craft skills in the future though.

Giri of the Chenlun Mountains |

I updated for the Background Skills as well. I actually really like that system!
As for the Innate Bonuses, does that mean my two magical items can't exist? (Tetsubo +1 and Bracers of Armor +1) Leave it for now or should I respend?

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I updated for the Background Skills as well. I actually really like that system!
I agree, it's very enjoyable. I wish Pathfinder used it as baseline, it would really push players to invest in less frequent skills.
As for the Innate Bonuses, does that mean my two magical items can't exist? (Tetsubo +1 and Bracers of Armor +1) Leave it for now or should I respend?
Weapons and armors aren't subjected to that rule as I've stated before, so you don't need to worry about the tetsubo.
As for the bracers, they work as normal. That system only works for Headbands/Belts of [insert ability score], Rings of Protection, Amulets of Natural Armor, and Cloaks of Resistance.

Giri of the Chenlun Mountains |

Oh, I guess I missed the armor and weapons clause. That makes sense as it rapidly increases the cost of those items to craziness.

Thorgull Kjalderssen |

Sorry for my absence these days, I'm moving out and planning our wedding at the same time. I'll be back tomorrow.

Virgil Ardelean |

I got round to sorting my background skills. I've taken Perform (dance) and Stealth (as I already had Knowledge (nobility) which can now count as a background skill).
I also applied the +2 resistance bonus to my saves from the cloak of the yeti.

Giri of the Chenlun Mountains |

I'm unavailable due to my brother's wedding this weekend. I should be able to post again on Sunday.
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Zadok Allendil |

Sorry guys! I'm still here but I work in a lab that studies corn genetics and we are in the middle of harvest so I have been putting in long hours out in the field which keeps me away from the computer and leaves me with no time or energy to update when I get home. I'll be traveling this weekend but that should actually leave me with some time to update then. Feel free to bot me as needed until then and sorry I didn't warn you sooner. I didn't expect to be kept away from the computer for so long.

Thorgull Kjalderssen |

Just a little head's up to let you know that the next days (until Monday evening) will be hectic for me.
I'll try to post at least once a day but I'm not sure to make it. Please bot Thorgull if you need to.

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Just a little head's up to let you know that the next days (until Monday evening) will be hectic for me. I'll try to post at least once a day but I'm not sure to make it. Please bot Thorgull if you need to.
Since when is getting married considered as hectic? ;-) Congratulations once more, bro!
As a side note, I've moved to a new apartment and my ISP still hasn't restored my connexion. I'll do my best to post as soon as I can, next update should be on Tuesday, when I can access the Internet at work. Sorry for the inconvenience!
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Virgil Ardelean |

Hey folks, my posting is going to be sporadic for the next four weeks I'm afraid. I'm currently on the fortnight run up to the Scottish Pathfinder Society convention, which is taking up most of my non-work time at the moment. After that I'm away on holiday for two weeks and I'll be taking a break from Pathfinder for the time to avoid burn out. If you need to NPC me please feel free. I look forward to returning refreshed and enthused again.

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Giri, I've just noticed that the Foe-Biting ability can only be taken if your legendary weapon is a minor or major artifact, which is not the case (yet) for you.
We'll keep it for now, but be advised that you'll need to pick a different ability for your legendary weapon at the end of the current scenario (which basically means at the end of the Pale Tower).
By the way, here's a "united" list of the house rules we're using, and include in that list various changes made to the mythic rules. After extensive reading, the one recurring things those who have played with the mythic system say is that some things are vastly overpowered and completely imbalance the game (with the right combination of feats and abilities, you can deal 1000+ damage in a single blow that'll always hit and bypass all forms of DR). I've acquired the Mythic Solutions pdf that was written by one of the very authors of the Mythic system, and a lot of those solutions make sense.
Just like the Foe-Biting problem mentioned above, we'll continue with the normal rules until the end of the scenario, then the changes will take effect.

Giri of the Chenlun Mountains |

Roger that! The wording on the Legendary Item ability is a bit different than the Foe-Biting one, so I guess that might have been my confusion!
Lesser and Greater Artifact vs. Minor and Major. Also, no classification of what your weapon is without the second upgrade to it.
It seemed really strong, so I didn't want to use it too much! :D
Also, it looks like the ability is banned in your new rules anyway!

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Yes, it won't matter much in the long run. But you're welcome to use it as much as you'd like until the end of the scenario, though!
As for classifications, legendary weapons are just magic weapons until they get the 3rd-tier upgrade that allows them to become artifacts. I agree that the terms "lesser" and "greater" artifacts are completely misleading, since these terms aren't used anywhere else. I'm not sure what they meant with these terms, but my guess is that they meant "minor" and "major artifacts".

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Welcome back! How was your convention?
About the house rules, I've posted them early so that people would think about which feat they'd want to replace them with, but the changes will only take effect at the end of that scenario (about 3 encounters left), so there's no hurry.
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Thorgull Kjalderssen |

Hi there! Just a heads-up to say that I'll in holidays in London this week-end, thus unavailable to post :) See you Monday!

Lithrac |

Is anyone interested in playing #8-04 Wardens of Sulfur Gulch (10-11 subtier)?
If you are, please report here.

Giri of the Chenlun Mountains |

Sounds good. I'll post another action for him, I guess.

Virgil Ardelean |

Thanks for posting for me there Giri. As I said to Lith privately, my time has been more committed to maintaining my health (I'll spare you the details) and my job. I've really enjoyed playing with you guys and would have loved to have seen this out to the end, but priorities change and I don't want that to impact you guys. I'll try to post as much as I can to get us to the end of this before Virgil bows out. I wish you guys all the luck getting to the end.

Giri of the Chenlun Mountains |

Greetings Pedwiddle! Nice to meet you!