Drow War Team 1

Game Master Tarlane

I know this is probably going to get me "shot" by Tarlane, but as it came up in another game, I can't help by comment here as well.

This game seems perfect for the new Mythic rule set.

Haven't heard much about the new Mythic rule set, aside from a few posts on the general discussion forum. Seems interesting.

Side question here Tarlane - Can I take 10/20 on perception/survival/heal checks? I know on some checks I can and some I feel like I can't, but I don't remember which ones I can and which ones I can't. Figured I would check with the GM before heading online and spending way too much time on the SRD lol

Nothing to worry about getting shot over Vorik.

I've been reading the mythic book lately actually, giving a lot of consideration to how they could be used. This campaign is technically designed to operate up to 30th level using the old 3.x rules, but I know it is an awful long way off in pbp speeds before we needed to worry about that. However, I may very well effectively place you guys to a mythic tier at some point and add one in place of a level now and again, and balance the epic challenges against that.

However, what I already am pretty sure I am going to make use of are the legendary weapon rules. Drow War has a thing called 'signature items' that are essentially part of the starborn template, certain things you will discover through the story that function off your inner power and advance in power with you. Pulling some options from legendary weapons to mix in should work well to suppliment that.

Brutus, the easiest way to consider when you can take 10/20 on things is this: If there is no pressure, you can take 10. If there is no penalty for failure, you can take 20. So you can take 10 whenever you aren't being rushed or in combat, ect. You can take 20 on things like picking a lock or whatever, but you can't for climbing or disarming a trap since if you failed bad things could happy. That is why taking 20 takes 20x as long, it assures you succeed by basically rolling every number from 1-20 so you eventually manage it.

You can take 20 on perception checks and survival checks, but only when you are willing to spend 2mins looking into each square, so when you are doing a diligent search of a room or the like. Its unlikely to be useful for survival since you would be trailing someone so slowly it would be hard to get there, but in theory you can do it.

Okay, but at the tomb with the skills, I should have taken 10 on my survival check for a result of 20. I wasn't sure ... thanks, hopefully I don't mess that one up again lol.

Vorik, Drow's adulthood starts at 110 years, according to srd, +6d6 on paladins. I don't want to be a jerk, i'm just saying it. So whatever you decide it's ok, and we don't remember it, by the way ^^

Hey GM boss man, did you get my PM? And is the tattoo part ok?

PM is answered and the birthmark is fine.

While we aren't very far in, I am seriously lovin this game so far!!

Mogwai is definitely lots of fun, especially when he tries to be diplomatic.

I hope this game lasts a nice long time :)

I'm having a lot of fun with this, too. Glad you're digging my character. :)

I'm actually taking a class tomorrow and Thursday, so I'll only be able to post once or twice a day, but then I'll be back to being always around.

I agree Vorik... this game is really enjoyable. Tarlane you have done a great job.

Hope you guys don't mind the sarcasm from Brutus, he is just trying to keep things light. Let me know if it is getting to be too much and I will tone it down.

And don't hate me for picking a fight... lol

You picking a fight? you have not yet seen what I've done....

I'm glad everyone's been having so much fun. I've certainly been enjoying it. Seems that we have a pretty solid group. I'm impressed by how quickly we've been advancing while still getting so much RP and character building in.

Nother PM sent your way Tarlane

Common Cleric Level, come here! Don't be shy! I got food for you... yes, that's it, come closer... AH SHIT, COME HERE MODAFOCA!

Thinking a bit long term,

Aetherni is going cleric next level, will you do so ever level after?

What about the others?

I am possibly looking into a PrC, but it depends on the response to the PM I just sent da GM

Fighter 1/Cleric 19, that's me. Heavily armored AOO-taker medic.

Right now I'm looking at Fighter 2 / Inquisitor 18, though that could change.

I would assume that long term, Brutus is going to follow the Zen Archer route to 20 in a perfect world. Things might come up that change that, but for now, I really like this class, especially its potential to be in melee and still using his bow, but taking AOO's and such with his unarmed strikes. I am intrigued as to the hero that he could become...

Hopefully, along the way, I master the balance between joke and wisdom, though as you can tell, still working on that lol.

Tarlane, I sent a PM to you, just to let you know...

I knew it! you don't love me anymore Brutus... You've never sent me a PM...

My bad... Aetherni, sent you a PM

By the way Vorik, you mentioned the new mythic ruleset... is that up anywhere online? I saw brief comments about it, but haven't seen the whole of what it presented.

i was planning to go straight Bard (Archaeologist), but I might go for Pathfinder Chronicler so that anyone can use my Luck power (once I get Epic tales). Best of all , I still get the full power (only now it would peak at 19th Level, not 17th). Not sure how the PrC's other performance abilities would work with this archetype - I could well lose them (which would be a waste of an ability), but the ability to boost everyones saves, hits, skills and damge all at the same time is a pretty powerful boost.

Going to send that response now Brutus.

Mythic rules were only recently released, as a general rule the d20pfsrd people wait at least a month before they put up new rules just sort of as a show of solidarity with paizo so they don't hurt book sales at all. Since its a core rulebook it will end up on paizo's SRD as well, but that tends to come 'when they have time' rather than on a specific timescale.

I think that the mythic rules are something that might be used in this campaign since it is designed to be 1-30 originally and mythic will cover that gap. The more I look at them, the more I like them, but they definitely are pretty powerful. I'm not quite sure yet if I'm going to splash one in now and again as you level up or wait until you hit 20 and then start giving you mythic tiers on top of it.

Gav, that would bring back amusing memories for me. In my in person group, we had a bard who took a prestige class which was entirely luck based(it was a 3.x class, can't remember the name). He had a suite of abilities that gave rerolls and eventually got one which would take something that would normally kill him took him to -9 and stable instead. At some point his job became 'we know there is something dangerous ahead, but we don't know what it is, so you run forward and spring it since you have the best chance to survive and we can find out what it is. We'll try and reel you out of danger before it might eat you.'

Speaking of PMs, Tarlane, you never gave me your thoughts on my last one.

Sorry about that, I'm terrible at PMs and emails. I look at them and then never end up answering and I no longer have a reminder that I haven't responded.

I have no problem with the PrC assuming it fits your character still when you reach that level. You were asking about the mechanics of it however and I think that would be less useful. As I said, there isn't much of a focus on any specific creatures types, you'll see a lot of diversity, so I think that actual strength-wise, you will be stronger overall without the PrC because of the specialization.

About the wiki, i think it is a good idea, but it might consume your time, so tell me if you need any help.

Aetherni,

The wiki host I used to use has apparently changed businesses, so for ease of use for everyone, I'm just setting up a wikia page. Since I don't know the tech level most people are comfortable with. That one has a real basic interface for people to put up info on their own.

I got pulled away with some of that 'work' stuff, so I've only got some basics right now. I'm focusing on putting up information you all have so far and then I'll worry about doing things like making it pretty and well formatted and stuff.

I'll put up the link for it and anything any of you want to add, whether its putting up facts, adding some notes, putting up a page for your characters so you can add a pic/journal/backstory or whatever. I should have it legitimately fleshed out on my own within a few days, but I'm happy to have any of your help or input.

Link to wiki

I'm thinking about taking the Warrior of Holy Light archetype, if Tarlane will allow it, since it doesn't do anything till 4th level.

However, it trades out Paladin spells. While the replacement ability is quite good, I would like the rest of the groups assessment of this potential choice.

I'm actually getting to play in our in person group at the moment, and am running a Warrior of the Holy Light myself. Its pretty solid and a lot of fun. I have no problem with you playing it if you want to pick that up.

Vorik - In terms of story and RP wise, I must say that I think the idea of a Drow warrior creating nimbus' of light and firing of pure rays of light is pretty interesting. I can't tell you what I think of it mechanically though, as I have never played a paladin and don't know how beneficial the spells are and such.

I agree with Brutus. In RP it would be nice, but I'm not sure the mechanical is worth it. Anyway, we're here most for the RP, otherwise i would not have taken first level as fighter...

Ignoring the special abilities of it, it's a +1 Greatsword, which already makes it better than his current sword (which is just a normal Greatsword), so I can't think of a reason he wouldn't use it.

In my experience, the fact that you get extra lay on hands and the ability to turn will make up for most of your spells, especially once your aura is essentially lesser restore. The one spell you are probably going to really miss is bless weapon.

Part of the call on how useful it will be is the sort of buffer that Drombar is going to be as a bard. The bonuses your aura provides are great, but they are morale bonuses so bards have a few abilities that it wouldn't stack with.

Also, the fact it takes a standard action to activate the aura and it only lasts for 1 minute at a time means that you will often be having to use a turn in combat you could be doing damage to buff everyone.

For the weapon, I wanted to point out that everyone will find a signature item of their own during the campaign. Not necessarily a weapon, but they are tied into your strength and will advance as you advance and you will have some control over the abilities they gain. There also are some signature equipment just for the group as a whole. The next signature item is a little ways off, but its still nice to have an idea of what it represents. Eventually they will be pretty powerful.

As regards Drombar, I don't get bardic performance so I would have no problem with Votik going warrior of the Holy Light to buff everyone.If necessary I can use spells to buff the party; I have no problem with that but remember that I get limited number of spells.

If buffing becomes an Issue I will pick up Pathfinder Chronicler; Epic tales will enable me to hold a number of books equal to my level that would gives anyone who reads them my Luck bonus (by that time probably +2 to all saves, skills, attacks and damage) for 6 rounds (18 if I have lingering performance). While it would take a few minutes to set up, if we have enough forewarning this would provide a significant buff when we fight the BBEG.

I have read that Warrior of the Holy Light is a viable alternative. I even considerd it for one of my other characters once. It makes for interesting RP opportunitites, and provides a flavoursome alternative to a standard Paladin. With Aetherni going Full Cleric, i don't see that we will need those spells anyway.

Also remember that Mogwai gets some good tactical abilities that can boost performance (solo tactics, level 3), as well as divine spells for backup and some other useful stuff (I love inquisitors, btw.) Between us, we can probably manage without the Paladin's spells.

Yes, i'll get the spells and some healing channel, so don't worry too much about yours, since they come at a later level. ALso, the watchman`s bonus is a Luck bonus, usable only once per day but still you know that.

Also remember that Mogwai gets some good tactical abilities that can boost performance (solo tactics, level 3), as well as divine spells for backup and some other useful stuff (I love inquisitors, btw.)

I have to read up on the Teamwork Feats and will likely be asking for some opinions, as I haven't played an Inquisitor before.

Inquisitor is one of my new favorite classes, so I can totally assist ya Mogwai

Awesome, cheers.

I'm also excited to see how everyone reacts when Mogwai eats his first kill.

Pretty sure you don't actually eat somebody via Eat Sins, as I'm pretty sure that's an evil act.

Why would eating a corpse be an evil act?

Anyway the description leaves it pretty open:

In some faiths, this “eating” is a purely symbolic act, while in others, the inquisitor must eat a small amount of food and water as part of the ritual. A few extreme faiths actually require the inquisitor to eat some of the body of the slain enemy.

I vote for the literal choice, because seeing a goblin, trying to redeem the reputation of his race, eating his enemies, is just such a great sight in my imagination at least.

Evil is one of those things that comes so much from viewpoint. Killing someone sentient to just eat certainly would be evil, but if they were killed in battle or of natural causes the only question about it would be whether he was essentially desecrating the body.

That is a perspective thing more than anything. Some cultures would view burial as desecration rather than burning, or vice versa. If he is doing it with the intent of purifying them and cleanse their soul or the like, I don't see it as inherently evil.

Now with that said, it doesn't mean that those who witness him doing it will have the same reactions.

This discussion was basically one of my driving forces in creating this character. As much as he does want to redeem the goblins, he is still one of them, and there are things that he would not necessarily view as wrong, and there would be parts of himself that he has trouble controlling. We already saw him react with an instinctual ferocity at the mention of hobgoblins for all of the terrible things they've done to his people.

I'd be okay with doing the soul cleansing idea if we decided that was what the goblin believed. I'm not attached much to the reasoning as much as the event itself and how others react to it. What I had in mind was that it would be somewhat honourable to eat of the other (especially since Sin Eater imposes a minimum HD requirement) as a way of praising their strength.

Mogwai is very much interested in the inherent strength of an individual, not just physically, but their force of personality, their unbending will, and given his monumental task, he'd certainly be ripe for believing that he can add their strength to his own.

That's what all the cannibals thought. ^_^ Still, any choice is good for me, I was already expecting weirdness when I woke up in the middle of a giant rock circle with a drow, a fetchling, a goblin and a human.

The human might resent that lol, though he seems to be a pretty open-minded human, so maybe he wouldn't mind too much

You're the one I watch the most! I know you're up to no good, i just need time to figure out what you're planning, evil spawn! ^_^

Look at this, you make one joke about a guys height and he thinks you are the spawn of some evil spider deity... I tell you what, the GALL of some people :)

If you aren't careful mister dwarf, I will find a way to get Mogwai to bite your leg off..

The only sin he will eat of my flesh is the one for being to MERCIFUL, as I should have killed you on sight Oh Evil-Spider-Deity-Minion!

He he, Jodan!

Mogwai, just a heads up, but with Inquisitor much like Ranger, you can easily be a switch hitter, going both range and melee. My high level Inq did both, though he was a somewhat more focused on melee.