Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines (Inactive)

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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I am running a V20 campaign and I had a player drop out as a result I have one opening.

I am using the new V20 rules - if you don't have them and only have an old rules set it is not an issue for me - I can update you on any differences. All characters are currently human and the game is still in the prologue stage though we will soon enter full game play. As the game progresses the characters will become embraced. Players may either choose their Clan or have me choose it for them.

The following clans may be chosen if you do not wish me to choose for you:
- Brujah
- Giovanni
- Lasombra, and
- Nosferatu.

The discussion thread explains some of the differences between my world of darkness and canon. Differences will become clear as gameplay continues.

The backdrop is Venice in the Year of Our Lord 1309. The city is feeling the strife between the Pope and the Doge with Nobles picking sides for or against the Doge's current defiance of the Holy See.

I don't need stats at the moment just a simple one paragraph background and a concept.

I will keep Recruitment open until this Friday afternoon August 17 at 3 pm. I will make my decision the next day based on the concept I feel fits best with the current party.

The current party:
Andrew the Hardy - Scottish Nobleman and envoy from Robert the Bruce to the Doge,
Gunther Thesing - Hungarian immigrant and owner of "Greetings" Tavern and Inn,
Dr. Lorenzo Cappelli - Native Venetian and retired physician. Son of a wealthy merchant of Venice,
Michael Santo - Immigrant to Venice and owner of a small Gondola business,
Michele Querini - Native Venetian, Nobleman and member of the Great Council, and
Xing Shi - Asian assassin from the far east.


At the risk of stating the obvious... Ventrue are off the table?

If so, would you mind listing this game's disciplines for Brujah and LaSombre (any anti-tribu)?

Grazi!

@Nethru - Jene "the Genie" Rodriguez, here... Sorry I couldn't do the Skype thing! Was liking the PbP.


Hi Hassan -

Hmmm. No I suppose Ventrue are not completely off the table, I would consider allowing one depending on the concept and background presented.

No Antitribu, we are pre-anarch revolt Dark Ages.

Brujah (Celerity, Potence and Presence) and Lasombra (Dominate, Obtenebration, and Potence) Disciplines are the same for V20 as they were in past releases. Some of the rolls may be a bit different I would need to double check the systems on them.


To help with concept, are we to be the good guys as it were, or are we the bad guys? Are we evil-light? LOL? So that we'd be pitted against world ending EVIL?

I typically play the un-cola, maybe a weakness for humanity, desire for justice while working within the guidelines of the system. Good soul struggling to survive the transformation, possibly seeking salvation.

That said, to survive you gotta take care of the day to day business and not forget the reality of your situation.

Middle Eastern, slightly olive tone... Pass for Italian at a glance.Son of a rich spice merchant, maybe. Parents have a villa outside Venice. Zorro?!


I don;t want to reveal too much of where the campaign is headed as any hint will totally give it away.

I am not a fan of the term "sand box" but this is a campaign where you can decide how you want to play it. If you want to be a seeker of Golconda the minute you are embraced go for it. If you want to be an inhuman monster racing to get to zero humanity go for it!

I certainly want to explore the story of humans becoming monsters and doing what they must to survive which is the way the game was "originally intended" but I won't force anyone to go in that direction.

Let's look at the concept you have posted above: "Middle Eastern, slightly olive tone... Pass for Italian at a glance.Son of a rich spice merchant, maybe. Parents have a villa outside Venice. Zorro?!"

Sounds like a good start.
Would you be in Venice running the family business?
Is your family here?
Do you have a family of your own?
With the Zorro concept are you thinking man of the people fighting against the corruption of the Doge and Nobles like him?

This type of concept would lend itself nicely to the theme of the beast I am lest the beast I become. You drink the blood of the guilty to protect the innocent, unless of course you lose control.

It would be an interesting revelation for the character to realize that lurking behind corrupt humanity are immortal beings whose corruption spans the ages.

Obviously there is no right answer but I want to flesh it out a little more.


Yes, fight corruption, abuse, etc... Social consciousness.

He's th big man on campus, family, trusted. There's probably a business manager, dealing with the actual day to day concerns. Escalating to my character. My guy might be business development, acquiring customers, etc...

Parents mostly absent, but have scheduled or unscheduled site visits. No own family yet, maybe fiancee dies as part of a tragic accident leading to the embrace. He ends up a reluctant bachelor. Not a playboy.

Golconda yes. Once he knows what it is. For now, he is the lesser evil
.. steeped with new found power, he feels a responsibility.

Sorry. Posting from phone.


I'm Egyptian. Maybe from Cairo and Alexandria. So maybe antiques, antiquities, books, freight/cargo services, spice.

He who controls the spice, controls the universe!


Hassan Ahmed wrote:

I'm Egyptian. Maybe from Cairo and Alexandria. So maybe antiques, antiquities, books, freight/cargo services, spice.

He who controls the spice, controls the universe!

LOL, I have a D&D PC who bases most of his concepts on Dune :-)

This is a solid submission Hassan. I stated that I would keep Recruitment open until Friday so I won't make a final decision yet. Though based on interest level thus far it is looking good for "Zorro".


Thanks. Come one, come all.

This is for a Ventrue? I love the Fortitude!! Dominance and Presence? Been a while.


Yes, Fortitude, Dominate and Presence. I will allow Ventrue if that is your preference certainly the background would support a Ventrue being interested in your character based on his family connections though a Brujah would be interested your character based on his political leanings.


Yes, understood. Was going to say, could be mistaken for Brujah, in his early years. Before he learns/appreciates, the game within the game.

Big on free will. But knows he can't beat a drum about it.


I was going to reapply, as things got too crazy for me to write up a background last time, but Hassan seems pretty in to this game, so I'll back off.

Also wanted to say sorry that I never got a finished character Shadow. Between RL stuff and lacking a real feel of the setting/time period, I just couldn't get going.


Hey MonkeyGod no worries. I figured you got caught up.


It appears that the only submussion was from Hassan Ahmed. I don't see much of a point in keeping recruitment open any longer.

Congratulations Hassan, your concept is approved. As the day progresses and as time allows I will send you a PM to discuss character creation guidelines.


My V20 campaign has an opening for a 7th player.

The campaign is set in Venice in the Year of Our Lord 1309. The city is feeling the strife between the Pope and the Doge with Nobles picking sides for or against the Doge's current defiance of the Holy See.

I don't need stats at the moment just a simple one paragraph background and a concept.

I will keep Recruitment open until next Friday afternoon August 22 at 3 pm. I will make my decision the next day based on the concept I feel fits best with the current party.

The current party:

Andrew the Hardy - Scottish Nobleman and envoy from Robert the Bruce to the Doge,
Dr. Lorenzo Cappelli - Native Venetian and retired physician. Son of a wealthy merchant of Venice,
Michael Santo - Immigrant to Venice and owner of a small Gondola business,
Michele Querini - Native Venetian, Nobleman and member of the Great Council, and
Xing Shi - Asian assassin from the far east, and
Alessandro Khadaji - Son of a Muslim shipping magnate who makes his home in the City of Venice overseeing his father's interests.

Note that at this time, all characters are still human and any new player will start as a human as well.

Grand Lodge

Here is what i would be aiming at

Jeremy doesn’t remember much about his past or who he was
His first starting memory was running out of a room of an underground chamber in an Eastern Europe country. He was fleeing from Ismael, a Tremere vampire. Outside of the castle he was meet with Cedric his faithful ghoul retainer. And together they have been fleeing the last 5 years from Ismael. Jeremy joined the last crusade in order to change radically and to throw off Ismael (change of identity, face etc) That was to save Acre after the fall of 1289. Having succeeded, as the crusader failed to save Acre from falling thus ending the last Latin state in the holy lands he came back in europe with the end of the crusade in where he chose to settle in England. There he spend the next 5 years building his wealth in the jewel and precious stones business. Now his is onc again on the move as he thinks he remembers that there is something waiting for him in Venice. Something that would connect to the past

DM spoiler:
Character is going to be a Tzimich Path of Metamorphosis Survivor. Who has blackened all the events prior to his fleeing. He was a human retainer to a Voivoid that was kill by Ismahel a tremer at the start of their campaign against the Tzimich.


Algar Lysandris wrote:

Here is what i would be aiming at

Jeremy doesn’t remember much about his past or who he was
His first starting memory was running out of a room of an underground chamber in an Eastern Europe country. He was fleeing from Ismael, a Tremere vampire. Outside of the castle he was meet with Cedric his faithful ghoul retainer. And together they have been fleeing the last 5 years from Ismael. Jeremy joined the last crusade in order to change radically and to throw off Ismael (change of identity, face etc) That was to save Acre after the fall of 1289. Having succeeded, as the crusader failed to save Acre from falling thus ending the last Latin state in the holy lands he came back in europe with the end of the crusade in where he chose to settle in England. There he spend the next 5 years building his wealth in the jewel and precious stones business. Now his is onc again on the move as he thinks he remembers that there is something waiting for him in Venice. Something that would connect to the past

** spoiler omitted **

Looks good. I can make it work with storylines I have dealt with in the game related to the Obertus. Thanks for the submission.

Grand Lodge

My pleasure DM :)


BUMP.

Grand Lodge

a bump to help S-T :)


Based on the responses thus far Algar you are certainly in the lead for the open spot! :-)

Grand Lodge

It most certainly looks that way :)


Last BUMP.

If I do not see any interest expressed by tomorrow, I will simply close recruitment and Algar will be the next victim, I mean, player.....

Grand Lodge

poor weak humans that we are.

DM:
any suggestion / critique on what i have sent you? as you can see i have written more fluff etc. (i am still moving one or two skill points around)


Due to the fact that only one submission has been received, I will be closing the Recruitment thread.

Congratulations Algar, you are now the 7th active player in the game thread with your submission. I will review your most recent PM related to the character and get back to you in the next few days with any suggestions or tweaks I would like to see.

Please create a profile utilizing the same format as the other players currently playing in the game.

Grand Lodge

will do DM

Dark Archive

If you have space for one more let me know I'd be interested in applying with a very pretty 18 year old girl whose father arranged her marriage to a widower in a wealthy banking family. Open to any clan except Nosferatu. She likes to play innocent but the whole thing has been orchestrated by her. Ambitious for a better life of wealth and access to power and she is willing to be as ruthless or angelic as she needs to be to get there.

And o/ Alagar, Shadow and Monkeygod


Hey Lord Zekk. Sorry, I just had one spot open. If anyone drops, I will PM you, consider yourself FIRST on the waitlist. :-)

Grand Lodge

Indeed very sorry there was only one...


Bloodlines currently has a large number of players. However, I prefer an odd over an even number of players.

If anyone is interested in playing what I believe is the only Vampire thread currently active on these boards, please submit a concept.

Please note that you will begin play as a Mortal and that I will be selecting your Clan for the Embrace.


Interested, or rather re-interested lol


Hey MonkeyGod, go ahead and submit a concept. The Discussion thread has general information on Venice itself as well as some ideas to utilize from the world at large during the time period. Your character must either be in Venice or traveling to Venice. Look forward to seeing what you come up with!


As an FYI to anyone interested, I will keep Recruitment open until Sunday June 7th.

For now I am just looking for a concept, no stats needed.


Should I post concept here, or PM, both?

Also, could I get a short comment about each PC's concept/clan?


Posting the concept here is fine.

Current PC's

Michele - Noble son and member of the Grand Council in the city. Think trust fund baby. Still Mortal. Intended Clan Followers of Set.

Michael - Immigrant and proprietor of gondola company. Still Mortal.

Bassanio - Florentine bankers son looking to open a branch in Venice. Still Mortal.

Baldemar - Teutonic Knight stationed in Venice. Still Mortal.

Andrew - Diplomat from Scotland seeking Venetian assistance against England. Clan Salubri - Warrior Caste.

Alessandro - Son of Muslim trader who runs family shipping operations in Venice. Still Mortal - Intended Clan Ventrue.

Xing - Immigrant asian assassin. Clan Lasombra (Unique Lasombra Bloodline)

Vitaliano - Immigrant underworld doctor. Still Mortal - Intended Clan Malkavian.

Lorenzo - Venetian resident former legitimate doctor turned doctor Frankenstein. Clan Cappadocian.

Finn - Immigrant Revenant of the Tzimisce clan seeking to reclaim lost memories. Still Mortal.


Thinking of a member of a powerful merchant family, who have dealings in a variety of businesses and ties to the Church. He would basically be laying the foundation for Cosa Nostra much earlier.

Still want to go with my original clan and concept, which I will PM you about.

I think my problem the first time around was trying to create too much of a special, unique character both before embrace and after. I think this idea will work much easier and hopefully still become what I want once turned.

Shadow Lodge

I'm thinking something of an outlander new that fled to the area after some unpleasant business that forced him to flee from home, (France?). Something along the lines of being hired/commanded by his lord to do something, not realizing the true depth of his actions, and when he returned home afterwards, found his family had been killed/enslaved/other, and his lord had essentially pinned the whole thing on him and branded him an outlaw. Not being a trained ruffian or scoundrel, and not having much stomach for it, he has had to learn through trial and error how to survive these last few weeks on the run, and

If I could get a bit more details on the time and setting, I can add a bit more details.

I'm thinking of maybe going along the lines of an early Anarch, something like an unsung hero founder. Being a commoner and not terribly educated, I'm thinking of trying to evolve the character towards being an educated philosopher with a passion, (but probably no real outlet for it depending on the year the game plays). But he needs to survive first, and learn to cope with this new curse, first.

Probably Road of Humanity, but possibly Heaven. Unsure. Not being learned, he did go to church, but didn't really understand much of it.

All in all, here are a few suggestions (suggestions only, do what you want) based more off of what I have planned for the character. But I can also see possibilities with any Clan.

I'd prefer not to be a Lasombra if I go with the earlier anarch idea, and possibly not a Brujah either, as I don't want the character to become a hero or renown martyr for the Anarch Movement later. Brujah I think can work better then Lasombra for this. A few suggestions, but by all means

Gangrel makes a bit of sense, but otherwise, Clan isn't too important. I don't really see Tremere wanting to pick this guy. Ventrue, Setities, Assamites, Tzimisce, or Toreador do not seem too likely either, but it's possible. Noseferatu might as an unwitting spy. Ravnos might as a distraction to get out of dodge. I can see a Salubri being interested. Similarly a Cappadocian, and both could help explain how he goes from being a laborer to a scholar, (kind of similar to Braveheart).


Hi Beckett see page 1 of the Discussion thread through March 1, 2012.

The City is Venice the Year is 1309.

Starting stats are also on that page. You will begin as a mortal.


Hey, SS. I play Analin in the WoT game. Here's my concept: a callow young nobleman from a rich family that recently bought its way into the nobility, quick to anger and full of himself, who cares nothing for his father's business or the city's politics.

He's the 4th of 5 sons, the 7th child of 8. His eldest brother is heir apparent and fully engaged in the family business, his second eldest brother is a veteran of the war with the Genoese and a rising star in Venice's political arena, and his brother closest in age is a priest in St. Mark's.

His father is a rich merchant who claimed to be friends with the great Kublai Khan and made his fortune on trade with the far east. With the death of the great khan and the disintegration of the Mongol empire, there is an impending fall for the family's fortunes, though they don't know that yet.

When rumors of the Serrata started swirling a decade and a half ago, his father spent money like a madman to get his his family invested with a title to insure they were not locked out of the possibility of political influence. As a result of this huge outlay of money, he was awarded the title of Conte and a position on the Great Council, but he quickly realized he was not inclined to politics the way he was to business and delegates most of his political responsibilities to his second son.

The PC is going to be inspired by Romeo and Mercutio (more the latter than the former)- an idle young nobleman who goes around the city falling in love and getting into fights. They seem like perfect Brujah candidates.

For a name, how about Giovanni Soranzo.


Concept ok family name is not Soranzo is a long established family name unless I have the spelling incorrect.


Ah. I was trying to avoid those- Tiepolo and Querini in particular. How about dal'Oriente ("from the orient") or Dal'este ("from the east")? Makes sense for a family built on Venetian trade.


Either is fine. :-)


OK, final player concepts:

1. DM Beckett - Outlander, recently arrived in Venice, works for Gunther at Greetings Inn. Clan - Clan Preference Cappadocian, but Nosferatu a possibility.

2. Karlprosek - New money merchant of Venice seeking fine food, fine wine, and fine women, not necessarily in that order. No Clan preference.

3. MonkeyGod - A pseudo hedge mage dabbling in the occult pertaining to shadow lore. Likely has been in the city for some time but not a resident. Clan - Bloodline preference mixed with Lasombra.

Unfortunately due to the game as it currently is playing out, I cannot announce which Clans are available and which are not as only 3 of the 10 current players have been embraced.


Go ahead and flesh out a paragraph or two for the Recruitment thread. Stat up if you like as well. I will probably be giving the current players a chance to voice their opinion so they will need to see what you have come up with.


Are there any changes to Backgrounds from DA:R to DA20?


Domain is not available nor is Status. Generation is chosen based upon your sire. No pooling of backgrounds. All else is the same.


Recruitment is now closed. Beckett, Karlprosek and Monkey god please finalize submissions by tomorrow. I will be polling the current group for input on the final decision.


I present Cristiano, Mafioso.

Silver Crusade

Mine is done, unless you need more.

-Posted with Wayfinder

Silver Crusade

Race Mortal
Gender Male
Size 5'10, 190 lbs
Age early 30's
Deity Orthodox Christianity
Location Venice, Greeting Inn
Languages Romanian and Italian (Speak only), Lingua Franca

About "Cantor"

Nature - Penitent
Demeanor - Survivor
Generation -None
Sire - None

Max Blood Pool /Current
Max Trait Tating -
Blood points Per Turn -

XP Earned -
XP Spent -

XP Expenditures:

Attributes:
Physical: Str 3, Dex 3, Sta 4
Social: Cha 2, Man 1, App 3
Mental: Per 3, Int 2, Wit 3

Abilities:
Talents:
Alertness 1
Athletics 2
Awareness 1
Brawl 1
Carousing 1
Empathy 2
Subterfuge 1
-
Skills:
Animal Ken 3
Archery 1
Crafts 2
Ettiquette 1
Larceny 1
Melee 1
Ride 1
Stealth 1
Survival 2
-
Knowledge:
Finance 1
Hearth Wisdom 1
Investigation 1
Medicine 1
Seneschal 1

Disciplines (None):

Backgrounds:
Allies 1 (Gunther)
Alternate Identity 1 (Yanos)
Contacts 2 (Jodi and Lindsay)
Resources 1

Virtues:
Conscience 4
Self Control 3
Courage 3

Humanity: 7
Willpower: 3

Merits: Celestial Attunement (1), Lingua Franca (1)
Flaws: Outsider (1)
Rituals: None

Description: Yanos is a bit taller than normal, and built like one would expect from someone that has worked their whole life. Recently he has begun to grow a bear and his hair long, (helping to hide his face a bit). He has dark brown hair, but pale skin compared to the local population, and speaks with an accent that clearly marks him as Eastern European. He is in his early thirty's, but already has greying hair from a hard life. Otherwise there is not too much remarkable about him. He is attractive, but not at all gorgeous, and the rags he wears does not help.

History: Born in far off Romania, "Yanos" worked the land his entire life, both farming and hunting to supplement what food he could for a small family. He never owned the land he worked, and the majority of his fruits went to the local lord. While he never the opportunity to study, or even travel, he was good with his hands.

Secret stuff:
Everything changed a few months back when he volunteered to help his lord with a problem. He joined as extra hired muscle for what was supposed to be negotiations with merchants and traders, but instead it was a massacre. When he refused to join in, the soldiers he was with turned on him, beating him to a pulp and then hauling him back in chains, claiming he was a secret traitor and spy, selling information to the outlanders. His family was taken and sold off as slaves, and Yanos was meant to be executed, but internal treachery and the reprisal of the middle eastern merchants allowed him the chance to escape.

He fled, grabbing what little he had and could carry safely and ran. He has only arrived in Venice about a month ago, and has had a hard time at it. He manages to find work at the Greetings Inn, where he now lives in one of the back rooms, doing odd jobs around the Inn, and even making a few friends and contacts amongst the staff. Both Jodi and Lindsay feel they can trust him, and though they know he has a secret of his own, they get the feeling it's a sad one, and secretly look out for him, from whatever it is he is running from.

Likewise, Gunther, the Inn's owner respects his work ethic, and is willing to help where he can. It isn't many who would put up with such a job just for room and board, and the tiny wages Yanos lives off of.

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