No worries - I did forget to put you on the Initiative list. However - you CAN do something - based on Ry's description of the symbol - you may be able to use a Knowledge: Religion check on the banner...
That is - if you'd like to :)
True - but she, like Isani - is stuck on Cali - I kind of figured that she wouldn't be able to do anything for now.
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Hmm... normally you would have missed the roll by 1 point - but I am going to be generous and let Ariarh's details sort of trickle over to you - her clue about "Old Ones" is enough for Isani to suddenly remember something...
There was a particular deity in the old ones - the nameless cults - and she recalls (vaguely) Its name - the creature that possess this mark in religious rituals was known as:
Hmm... There seems to be more information about this figure - but, Isani is not sure what it could be...
Okay - to speed things up a bit I'm ruling that Ariarh and Shae are swapping Initiative. This is because At this time we would have Isani go last, then - Ariarh goes at the top of the round - then, it's Shae's turn... and we go down the line. So - yeah - Ariarh - toss up your move - then Shaezon...
She begins to move forward again, but not as far as before, only to position on Dior's right, and waits to see what the enemy will do and how they will advance before pursuing any other action.
She begins to move forward again, but not as far as before, only to position on Dior's right, and waits to see what the enemy will do and how they will advance before pursuing any other action.
Okay - that's cool. So - you are currently 115 from the closest one of these guys (so -11 to perception) - they are hooded and there is still some residual smoke/steam from them which further covers their features.
However - you can see one thing - near the back you see movement - like; literally their backs... You think they may have - in addition to legs - possibly a tail?
- okay, yeah, that pretty much confuses everything. There is nothing you can recall in natural sources that may help you here - the real "bear" is that you've seen other folk with Tail's before - including Kae - so... maybe they're weird Alchemists? If so - that may not be good news... On the other hand - maybe they're not... It's still too difficult to tell.
Okay Shae - it looks like you're up!
Clari is not holding action, She casts Cat's Grace on herself
Clari is not holding action, She casts Cat's Grace on herself
Okay - just need a ride check if you are casting on a mount...
Other then that - no worries!
Concentration
Ride
Shae - we're still waiting for you :) - I'm eager to see what you do next!
Not literally over lava - but basically - she is actually flying around rising heat currents, falling smoke/ash, and (most importantly) Clari is actually now "reduced" - she is too small to be on a saddle - and too small to even really hold on to someone, unless she does so literally - in which case she is using her hands, and the spell requires her to have her hands free - just like if/when Arasmes casts spells.
Oh well - more on that later...
Shaezon pulls out his bow as he moves up 30' and fires at whatever is closest or coming closest. He has every intention of staying well behind the fighters.
Bow
Edit2: Also Shae is going to move toward the edge of the volcano within about 5-10 feet.
Shaezon pulls out his bow as he moves up 30' and fires at whatever is closest or coming closest. He has every intention of staying well behind the fighters.
Bow 1d20+5;1d8
Edit2: Also Shae is going to move toward the edge of the volcano within about 5-10 feet.
Shae - this puts me in a difficult position.
Basically - seeing that you were the advance man - and all alone - by yourself, with no forward cover - (i.e. you are at position -W, -11)
Well - basically - other then Kae, the rest of the fighters did NOT move forward in front of you, deciding to hold action.
If you moved 30 feet forward, you would be well in front of the fighters who are currently far behind you; holding action. Even if you didn't move at all, you are currently behind the fighters.
However - you took your actions - but for now I will assume you did NOT move forward 30 feet to try to save Anuk-su, as Clari is in Cali, who is about 45 feet back around the curve, and 20 feet in the air, waiting.
So - when I get back, I'll let you know what the bad guys do - however - as of now, I'm going to assume you did not actually choose to move forward, only because you said you wanted to be behind the fighters who are behind you - the wizard.
:)
And yes, I know it was late last night - I was just so juiced up for the new round! Anyhow - well; I'll toss up the bad guys responses when I get home in a couple of hours.
If you still want to move forward, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll have you simply wait where you are. The nearest bad guy is about 50 feet from you, by the way. He is one of the guys you hit with a fireball, yet somehow you think Evaded it... Thus; he knows you are a magic user, and is not happy.
Expect me when you see me! I'll be back when I get here :)
I'm not getting in front of the fighters. I'm not sure where they are. I'll hold with them. Firing the bow from behind to zero effect.
Heeeey, Raz...
An Enlarge may be useful in this situation, just a little bit... Just Sayin...
I'm not getting in front of the fighters. I'm not sure where they are. I'll hold with them. Firing the bow from behind to zero effect.
Firstly - you are well in advance of all the fighters/melee combatants. They are all behind you - by quite a bit in some cases - with the only exception being Kae - who is roughly 15 feet to your right, near the lava.
Therefore - I will decide that, as you are worried about being attacked, I can move your character back 30 feet. That's the best I can do - otherwise the enemy will hit you this round.
I am doing that now, moving you back to
-R, -14 - this will give you your attack, and a move action.
Then I will make the enemy attack. However - in the future, I need to know where you are, because if I didn't, then it would be problematic for combat in a big way.
Alrighty.
Actually, Kae - thank you for alerting me to a bit of a problem.
Technically Arasmes has "Enlarge Person". This is a spell he cast on Cali.
However - even though they via the special ability, this does not allow him to use Enlarge Person on Cali.
The reason is because she is not humanoid.
Typically Share Spells provide caveats for Summoners to use restricted spells on their Eidolons - but these are specifically designed for spells that are meant for the caster to use on himself. They also have Caveat's for a Summoner to negate issues such as Cali being from another plane.
It was pointed out to me earlier today that - as a Summoner can form the nature of their Eidolon - Arasmes could have given Cali a humanoid appearance - but because he made her as a mount, she can not be Enlarge via Enlarge Person - this is for humanoids only.
does not allow the transference of that spell between Summoner and Eidolon any more then I could cast on Cali - a fifth level spell - rather then - a 9th level spell.
Short Answer - Share Spell does not allow Ras to use on Cali - unless Cali was a humanoid shaped Eidolon; which she could easily be.
So - now what
For now - I'm not sure, that's a heck of a lot of ret-conning. Since I really don't feel like ret-conning, I am just going to allow Cali to be Enlarged now - but until she is changed into a humanoid in the future - that Spell will not work on her again.
That said -
It is now Dhoj and Grod's turn...
Grod moves to -U, -11
Dhoj moves to -R, -11 to help present a frontal line to Kae.
Meanwhile:
One of the men with the "big hooded helmets" (light blue guys) moved up to -Z, -3
The other man with these "big hoods" moved up to -Y, 2.
The others simply hold action.
Next -
It is now Kae and Dior's move.
That said - Kae - what are you doing?
Edilions have
Life Link (Su) : Starting at 1st level, a summoner forms a close bond with his eidolon. Whenever the eidolon takes enough damage to send it back to its home plane, the summoner can, as a free action, sacrifice any number of hit points. Each hit point sacrificed in this way prevents 1 point of damage done to the eidolon. This can prevent the eidolon from being sent back to its home plane.
In addition, the eidolon and the summoner must remain within 100 feet of one another for the eidolon to remain at full strength. If the eidolon is beyond 100 feet but closer than 1,000 feet, its current and maximum hit point totals are reduced by 50%. If the eidolon is more than 1,000 feet away but closer than 10,000 feet, its current and maximum hit point totals are reduced by 75%. If the eidolon is more than 10,000 feet away, it is immediately returned to its home plane. Current hit points lost in this way are not restored when the eidolon gets closer to its summoner, but its maximum hit point total does return to normal.
Familiars have
Share Spells : The wizard may cast a spell with a target of “You” on his familiar (as a touch spell) instead of on himself. A wizard may cast spells on his familiar even if the spells do not normally affect creatures of the familiar's type (magical beast).
Unless Arasmes has something special then he doesn't have Share spells. So you are correct that he cannot cast personal spells on Cali. However, someone with share spells can cast range personal spells on their own familiar. So I can cast enlarge person on Mister, but somone else cannot.
Actually you are both incorrect.
1. Summoners actually do get Share Spells. Share Spells
2. They can cast Enlarge Person on their eidolons regardless of base form and here is why. Enlarge Person specifies the Humanoid Type not the humanoid shape. Eidolons regardless of form are Outsiders. The form has nothing to do with their type. For example, that spell cannot be used on an angel even though it has a humanoid FORM it does not have the humanoid TYPE as it is an Outsider. Now why am I telling you all this if eidolons don't have the humanoid type either? Because under share spells it specifically says "A summoner may cast spells on his eidolon even if the spells normally do not affect creatures of the eidolon’s type (outsider)."
In the future if you have questions about class abilities please ask me to clarify first and I will explain. I can give you multiple threads and posts and messages from the developers about this very topic.
Edilions have
** spoiler omitted **Familiars have
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Unless Arasmes has something special then he doesn't have Share spells. So you are correct that he cannot cast personal spells on Cali. However, someone with share spells can cast range personal spells on their own familiar. So I can cast enlarge person on Mister, but somone else cannot.
You could cast enlarge person on Mister - but only if he were a Humanoid. If he were a Brownie Familiar, or a Pixie Familiar - for example. Mister is not a Humanoid Creature - the spell is not designed for non-Humanoids - spells that are have different titles and difficulty levels.
is a first level Eidolon. As such - he is granted that ability - much like a familiar.
However - as the ability is written - the true advantage is that certain spells can only be used on the person casting them - well, now they CAN be cast on another being - in this case the Familiar or Eidolon.
This ability even extends to the fact that Cali is not from this Plane - as an "extra-planar" creature, she would normally suffer further penalties to such abilities - but, not for this ability.
Now - the real crux of the matter is that if Cali had been fashioned into a standard "Humanoid" (RE: Biped in the book) - then this spell could work on her. However - that would mean she would not have multiple attacks per round, as a quadraped does.
Because she is granted those abilities (such as Pounce; and the claw/claw/bite attack) - she suffers standard disadvantages that non-humanoids do; such as - not being able to wield a magic sword, or use a shield (naturally, these penalties are on Mister as well) - because neither of them are "Humanoid" subtypes - they cannot enjoy the bonuses of both a "Monstrous" subtype - and the bonuses of spells that are specifically meant for "Humanoids".
If they were - then a basic "enlarge person" spell could work on a monstrous creature. But - they aren't, and the spell cannot.
You could cast enlarge person on Mister - but only if he were a Humanoid. If he were a Brownie Familiar, or a Pixie Familiar - for example. Mister is not a Humanoid Creature - the spell is not designed for non-Humanoids - spells that are have different titles and difficulty levels.
Incorrect. The wizard may cast spells on his familiar even if the spells do not normally affect creatures of the familiars type (magical beast). So you can cast Enlarge person on your own familiar. The same is true of Cali for Arasmes. Arasmes and only Arasmes may cast enlarge person on Cali along with a number of other spells, such as the "form of" spells.
Edit: Unless you're house ruling of course, but that's a different story.
Shae is correct, as I stated above Share Spells specifically allows for casting spells on your familiar/eidolon/animal companion that do not normally work on that type of creature.
For example, Ry could cast enlarge person on Dior if she wanted to.
Actually you are both incorrect.
1. Summoners actually do get Share Spells. Share Spells
2. They can cast Enlarge Person on their eidolons regardless of base form and here is why. Enlarge Person specifies the Humanoid Type not the humanoid shape. Eidolons regardless of form are Outsiders. The form has nothing to do with their type. For example, that spell cannot be used on an angel even though it has a humanoid FORM it does not have the humanoid TYPE as it is an Outsider. Now why am I telling you all this if eidolons don't have the humanoid type either? Because under share spells it specifically says "A summoner may cast spells on his eidolon even if the spells normally do not affect creatures of the eidolon’s type (outsider)."
In the future if you have questions about class abilities please ask me to clarify first and I will explain. I can give you multiple threads and posts and messages from the developers about this very topic.
1. Ras - first; thank you for your clarification about the spell. It was certainly helpful.
2. I should add that though I do appreciate the time and effort it takes you to look up those links - but generally I am less interested in what the developers say after the fact. It means too much ret-conning and reworking the game for my taste. If it is written a specific way - and they wish to update that way - and I do not have the information on the material they produced - it makes it very difficult for me to plot out or plan out any kind of campaign in general when there is a specific ruling one a piece of errata that I have not seen or heard of. Without the information on a forum that I can examine before an event is planned - it leaves me in a difficult position - as I have built a challenge rating on what I have read and examined, not what you have read :)
Again - I do appreciate the help and update - I didn't see your post until I after I wrote mine. However - as you no doubt are aware - I already ruled that at least for now you can maintain the ability/power until after the combat and until you level.
But - as I said - for now it does not matter. You are able to enlarge Cali - she is enlarged - so no worries.
Meanwhile - the real question on everyone's mind - no doubt - is when Kae will be attacking? Once he does that - then we can continue down the line for the rest of the group.
Depending on when Kae posts, I may end up NPC'ing Dior for one attack - just to move the combat ahead a little, since I know some of you guys have an earlier time you need to crash out.
Shae is correct, as I stated above Share Spells specifically allows for casting spells on your familiar/eidolon/animal companion that do not normally work on that type of creature.
For example, Ry could cast enlarge person on Dior if she wanted to.
1. I have already conceded the point you two are making. Yes - so that's okay - my error, sadly - was seeing Cali as a Quadraped - NOT an OUTSIDER - which was the real error on my part, as the rules were clearly there, I just misunderstood them. Thank you both for the help in that - it was a misunderstanding, and now I know :)
2. Sadly - Ras, you are incorrect completely at the point regarding Dior. BUT - this is only because Dior is not Ry's Animal Companion - he is merely a traveling companion in the form of her "signature item" - as such; her spells would not be conferred to him.
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Indeed, sir - hence my latest post, which I was writing even as you posted YOUR post... ahhh the frustration of waiting for Kae... ;)
My fault about Dior. I thought he was both signature item (because you normally can't get Griffons as Animal companions) and the animal companion.
and thank you for understanding about our points. :-)
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Anyway...
Kae pauses but a moment to drink his Mutagen, then drawing his glaive he advances to -V,-7. If I read the map right he's barely in range of only the most advanced enemies, so he won't get swarmed. [ooc]AC has gone up to 22 with his nat armor
AoO
for
Perception to see if he is hitting a human for a +2 to attack and damage
My fault about Dior. I thought he was both signature item (because you normally can't get Griffons as Animal companions) and the animal companion.
and thank you for understanding about our points. :-)
Indeed - remember though - the animal Companion to a sixth level Druid is typically far more powerful then a "young griffon" who is only as small as a golden retriever. He is tiny - but; he is feisty!
That said - on to Kae's move... :)
Edit
Anyway...
Kae pauses but a moment to drink his Mutagen, then drawing his glaive he advances to -V,-7. If I read the map right he's barely in range of only the most advanced enemies, so he won't get swarmed.
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Nearest enemy is at -Z, -3 - that is currently 15 feet from your current position. You can see - that he is CLEARLY not human...
Specifically - this person's head, from under the hood - is either a very complex mask - or he possesses the head of a Cobra...
His body is still cloaked - but as the cloaks fall open, you suspect he may have armor underneath - in either case - he posses a sword. He opens his mouth and hisses at you - luckily - he has already taken his action to move to that point.
HOWEVER: Now comes the rest of the party... I'll be tossing their moves up next - so it may take a few moments.
Regarding Dior - I am taking over Dior at this time, and reorganizing his initiative - he is holding action so that now he will be going at the same time as Ariarh - he won't be doing anything other then that for now; not knowing what these creatures can do.
Eh - okay - here's what's up - the enemy has moved up. They are out of range of Kae's reach weapon.
To help things out - I sent out a new reorganized map for everyone to look at.
It's very basic - I don't intend to really update things until I can shrink the map - but I can't do that until you guys move up.
That said - check your email - the map is there - Arasmes - it's your turn!
Arasmes is going to have Caliphana land and have everyone dismount. Caliphana can fight much better without us on her back. He says to Isani and Clari. Also this heat is making it difficult with the thermals.
Arasmes is going to have Caliphana land and have everyone dismount. Caliphana can fight much better without us on her back. He says to Isani and Clari. Also this heat is making it difficult with the thermals.
Cool - can I get the coordinates/height of Cali? Thanks!
Also - can you all 3 occupy the same space? (By that I mean Clari, Isani and Arasmes?).
If so - that's cool. If not - I up putting Isani at -T, -12. I will assume that as Clari is reduced - it won't matter too much... Either way - we'll see what happens next!
20' up over -u -v -8 -9
Okay – a couple of things happen at this time –
1. A burst of dark energy appears – a dark lion with crackling black fire hanging from his mane bursts out at –AE, 5. It roars out and runs to move to
2. Next – the cloaked with the hood and bundle by his feet is acting…
Suddenly – a burst at –U, -10. This creates a wide burst of foul, reeking gas that is filthy. The radius of the explosion affects the following people:
People Affected
Kae
Arasmes
Isani
Dhoj
Grod
Clari
Cali (the spread has raised enough to hit her – but just barely).
All of you must now make a Fortitude Save.
Grod’s Fortitude –
Dhoj’s Fortitude –
Meanwhile – I need to see Clari’s action before we can continue – once I see your Fortitude rolls – we’ll go from there.
Ras - that guy's Reflex Save -
Reflex Save for Grease -
Meanwhile - that area 10x10 is now considered difficult terrain.