I was also flying so I was 10 in the air, I am not sure if they could cast that cage right through my body or not, I do make my save so it's a moot point but I know it's not easy on roll20 to show height, I have put the 10 in the red circle as a reminder but after awhile it's easy to just ignore it cause you always see it. I have moved myself on the roll20 as I had most of my post typed up but the boards ate it and I had to get to a meeting, I will get it posted here soon
You were within 10 feet of Nowzai for the magic circle, yes? You'd be within the range.of the spell then. It would shunt you inside if you fail, not sever your body ... Although visually that would be cooler.
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I posted before I read the discussion issue, but I don't think Epik's position is in contention.
My issue with this ruling is before any of the combat began, when we were in free action and interaction, Dalamus chose to move out of formation from the party.
Dalamus was leery (and honestly concerned about an area effect spell) from the beginning and wanted to separate from the party, and I stated as much plenty before the Angels tried to hand anything to Epik.
If you had an issue at that point, you should have told us we need to move in combat rounds. Magmas impulsive swing was after conversation with the angels, and as they were handing the chalice.
Dalamus, what would you like me to change from the assumption above?
Did I read it wrong, or are we just changing it because Magma attacked? I also interpreted his action as he was standing right beside epik and more went to slap it out of his hand, rather than swinging from 10 feet away (which, if that dias is 15 feet tall, he couldn't have even reached).
That aside, with the information being different than what I had pictured, I'll make a minor positioning change and should be good:
My action and positioning is going to have to be different I think, I read the post that they had come down off of the dias and it was only 7 feet tall. At that angle I don't think I can even see them, with the way the post was written I tried to "math" it and had figured out with my head at 5 feet, I could see 7 feet back with less than 1 foot of "cover", and 15 feet back with 2 feet.
With haste I have an extra 30 move, without doing a double move, so I'll head up the stairs and actually have good LoS. My attack and everything else should be exactly the same (although if it missed because of cover maybe I'll get lucky!).
Dais is 10 feet, I was mistaken. You missed because of AC, unfortunately. No cover included. If you haven't already, go ahead and make your movement adjustment.
I see we all had confusion but no major issue with the setup, so I'll press from here knowing that Sam hasn't actually moved yet, although his token has moved. Will affect AoE.
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I guess my point going forward is, if we are in a freeaction period and people start doing things, lets not do the initiative after and undo critical moments.
Prior to Magma swinging at the chalice, there was no turn order per se, and once he did that, because he ended up with a higher initiative. it appeared to me that you wanted to back everyone back up to their starting points (correct?)
That would have been fine if we were in an initiative scenario, but we had not been.
wait what round are we in?
I have us in Round 3 but everyone is posting round 2.
Did I skip a round?
No idea, I am confused too. I think round 1 was the initial reaction, and this should be round 2?
We are still in Round 2, hag's turn ... Most of the others delayed and then once warned I assumed they acted on their action in Round 1.
Dalamus, copy. I made the incorrect assumption that everyone who wanted to move had already moved themselves on the map.
Transition from dialogue to hostile action is always difficult.
Sam goes before the enemies so it stands to reason you're posting round 3 sooner than the others. I'll adjust to put your round 3 init at the end of Round 2, then it will be all clean.
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It's hard being the fastest guy in the room....something something your mom...
I will post hags turn tonight. Briefed congressional staffers today, so didn't have any work time available.
Expect them to cast spells that require will saves that will suck if you fail them.
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Great.....I have a 1 for a will save, thanks to the neg level, cut me in half...lol
Try to get close to Nowzai, he has the pro evil so if it's a charm you get a +2 and another chance to save
Ok I am super confused now. You are back on Round 1 in your post, and I am now at the end of the order, but you said post in round 3 but that we can post an action if we want to change.
Which actions have been completed? I cast haste in round 1, shield in round 2 and in round 3 I thought I made my save against the cage moved up and cast Mirror Image, which of these things has or hasn't happened?
Did Dalamus get up and make an attack or is he still have it greater invis on?
What has Jenya done the last couple of rounds? Do you want one of us to run her?
Round 2, fixed. Forgot about invis, so dominate moves to Nemoris
Your mirror image happens at the end of this round.
Jenya only acts if you ask her to. That's like the seventeenth time I've said I won't run her in combat or choose her spells.
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They cast the cage in round 2
Full round cast from round 1 actually. They cast it right prior to their turn on round 2.
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Magma, one save which you failed and looks like you're gonna have more than 1 post again. Note Round 2 above, I had you take a non action because of my 1 post rule.
Just to reiterate, during combat you are limited only one post per player between my posts. If you post more than that, ill ignore follow on posts which may result in non action for that combat round.
Ask questions here in discussion but put all your combat action info in another post. If there's a need for an exception, ask here in discussion or I may specifically mention (as per my last post) that you can post again.
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Sam, the action at the end of Round 2 will be your Round 3 action (prot evil). Your third spell in this fight.
Gonna move Magma to the end of the round as well. I'm not moving you to the back I'm moving you up from the next round so my break points are when the hags act.
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I don't mind running Jenya but you had said before that when it came to the posts that you would run her as it's easier than during a live session. Now I know you have said you want us to tell her specific actions and if we need something specific from her we will, but I don't think that means she should just stand around with her finger up her nose if we don't tell her to do something.
That being said, I think we should all come up with a new spell list for her for the next time she rests, I think having her have a couple of Communal Pro Evils, maybe a Silence. I love the Fervor so maybe have 2 of those prepped.
I don't know clerics all that well so I would love to open this up for everyone's input.
I don't mind running Jenya but you had said before that when it came to the posts that you would run her as it's easier than during a live session. Now I know you have said you want us to tell her specific actions and if we need something specific from her we will, but I don't think that means she should just stand around with her finger up her nose if we don't tell her to do something. That being said, I think we should all come up with a new spell list for her for the next time she rests, I think having her have a couple of Communal Pro Evils, maybe a Silence. I love the Fervor so maybe have 2 of those prepped. I don't know clerics all that well so I would love to open this up for everyone's input.
Fair enough, if you want to run her tactically I'm ok with that. I'll add her dialogue and reserve veto power.
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The new order for Rounds will end Sam, Magma, Hags. It will make sense and no one will lose a turn. Trust me, I'm just pulling the three forward so my posts end with the hags' actions.
Dalamus, duration is in the link (based on level of course), but you reroll action every round.
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I know the duration....Just waiting for you to insert their level. :)
Since I can't post it in the main chat, Sam would suggest to Nowzai that he try and get close to all the babbling idiots with his 10' radius of pro evil, at least give them a chance to make another save
I know... and each of the archons emits a 10 ft magic circle also!
I don't see the yellow circles on the map, did you make them visible to all?
Mm, probably not. Good catch.
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So with me semi-running Jenya, I would like to make separate posts for her actions and Sam's or it will get stupid confusing I think.
Are you ok with that?
I will even create a Jenya Avatar that won't have all her stats but at least you will know who is doing what
Yes it's fine, just match this profile pic and name as close as you can to make it as seamless as possible.
Just tactical.decisions, no dialogue.
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Epik/Tike
The way I understood the confusion to work was once we failed we stayed the duration unless we succeeded at our save. Now you made a special point that if we succeed with the aid of protection, then leave that circle we would then need to make another save, thus another roll on the table. Is this wrong?
You make a save if you enter the yellow circle and it's "suppressed" ... if you fail it no change, if you leave the circle, it automatically comes back.
You make a roll every round regardless when confused, though.
Jenya's level 8 stats updated, additional lev 8 spells not chosen, you can pick them after this fight:
1 1st, 1 3rd, 1 4th
Also she gained Aura of protection: radiates energy resistance 5 and +1 deflection AC in a 30 foot radius up to 8 rounds a day.
Can also use staff of order to touch a weapon and give it the axiomatic property for 4 rounds 1/day
DC is 17 now on the Calm Emotion if any of the Hags are in it.
Anyone been injured yet? Holding Jenya's round 3/4 action to see if anyone needs a heal
I forgot I have 5 of these - Bandages of Rapid Recovery
We can get you all wrapped in these after this fight if we need. Sorry I forgot about them
Nemoris, are you resisting the calm emotions spell then and maintaining confusion so you can act this round? If so, you'll need to make a save.
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I think he is saying hopefully Nowzai will have the Archon's move up so he get's another save with the Pro Evil, if they do he will full attack, if they don't he will move into the Pro Evil and attack once.
I could be wrong but that is what I think he was trying to do based on my conversation with him, just not sure when he will follow up post so just trying to help
Regardless, the calm emotions happens prior to that ... he has to accept it as harmless or resist it.
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Headed to Chicago this afternoon for the weekend. No computer, will try and keep up with phone.
Regardless, the calm emotions happens prior to that ... he has to accept it as harmless or resist it.
Ah, yep, sorry Tike, didn't realize I'd have to make a save against Jenya's spell too. How do you want to do that?
Will Save: (not sure if I get the +2 save from that)
Jenya isn't evil so no +2, but still you are able to resist the calm emotions. Confusion is still active on you if you depart a circle.
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I am totally playing her evil...I say you do get the +2
Hey guys, Holly is travelling a lot during April. Thought we may look for a few Roll20 live sessions if you're game.
Starting next week she leaves on the 6th and returns on the 9th. 7th or 8th would be perfect. I know that may screw Ben unless he can get a Thursday swap out?
We can discuss later sessions if we sucessfully execute this one. Perfect timing as post this hag fight there's a chance to bog down that real time discussion can avoid. Should be able to finish this chapter and start the next (they flow together, so no real down time).
Thoughts?
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I'm traveling 6-10 Apr and 14-17 Apr ... probably won't be able to do a live session from the road.
Tuesday/Wednesday are probably going to be pretty spotty for me until after 10:00pm EST, would it even be worth starting that late for you guys?
I'm fine with whenever, as long as its in the evening.