OK nothing much happening so I'm going to keep the IC thread open for another day or so.
OOC please can everyone finalise their claims and post their equipment list with value plus notional gold share (ie how much left after their claims).
The treasure list has been posted to the Google site.
Basics:
Counting Sajan's split we each get 9,291.57gp.
There is 10,394.66gp in the party treasury.Assume we will speak with dead (Sajan) and find out he doesn't want to come back?
Remember you basicaly buy anything from the loot with your gold at the sale price.
Are we going to have to wait until we can possibly go to Katapesh in order to sell most of this stuff?
Adding in the assorting coin and things we find our treasure share is about 9493.71.
Grall will pass on the armor, it's nice but the check penalty is too high at this point and he uses acrobatics a lot.
When we get to Katapesh is there any way we might be able to trade an item for a similar one?
To be honest the sword of lifestealing is exactly what Grall is looking for (In fact I had been thinking of buying one for a while once I could afford it) but he wants to try and trade this one for a Falchion...maybe throw in another 1000gp to sweeten the deal? It can wait until we get there for you to make a decision, but I thought I would at least ask.
In a rare situation I might allow a swap but generally sticking to the normal sale rules (as unintutive as they are) particularly for a rare valuable item like the sword. Its a short step from there to selling everything at 90% because it makes more sense and then wealth levels end up blown.
Basically looking for Linah to post before I close out the chapter. And for Alex to tell me what he is doing.
Grall would probably take the chainmail since it is Mithral, he won't be able to find a cheaper set. There is nothing else at this time he is interested in and will pocket the rest until Katapesh.
Of course if Linah really wants it Grall would give it to her, she need the protection more than him? Let me know. If course that would put you over your spend limit.
The reason i took an interest in the chain mail is purely a cosmetic one. I picture Linah in roughly she same equipment as the Pathfinder Iconic Cleric Kyra, and she has a chain mail. That's my only reasoning :)
AC is one of the things i've given up on. It feels however i manage to get it the monsters will have a to hit bonus that dwarfs Linah's AC anyway. One of the reasons i had her magic shield on her back for most of the final fight.
The headband is the only thing i want "stat wise". But if nobody wants the chain mail i'll take it (but if someone even remotely needs it they should take it instead).
For the ARG I was hoping to ignore it until I had a chance to read it through but I already opened the door with Alex (he was looking at a foehammer when last I heard) so allowing on a by exception basis. Improved Low Blow is fine. Let me have a good think about Risky Striker. Its powerful (better than power attack I think for what it does which is a high bar) but then theres that really big condition that the target has to be large or bigger. And then I don't think its better than reckless abandon (one of the big barb boosts in extending core to APG).
Improved Low Blow would have been an easy choice, if she still had a scimitar, as I originally built her. The plan was to crit more often thanks to the extended threat range to make up for the Small damage. But you can't pass up a +1 weapon at level one. And now I can't justify abandoning the ancestral hammer of the pugwampis for a plain old +1 scimitar bought from Katapesh from an IC standpoint, even if it's obviously better OOC. :P
In other news, would be pleased to keep the ring of fire resistance if no one else wants it but can't afford it. :\
Zeladiel wants in order of priority
to keep the Wand of Summon Monster II - what is the price on that? Kind of important as it affects what else I can afford.
6000 gp to enchant his bow- looking at rapid shot for 7th level feat.
500 gp Cloak of Resistance +1 (not the bright one)
1000 gp Ring of Protection +1 (Just because- as a mage, Zeladiel will always be easy to hit should someone try)
Scrolls of arcane spells- arcane bond means I should never turn down a chance to add spells to his spellbook.
OK so I have claims as below. That puts Linah and Nuveril over. I daresay with Khalid and Grall not taking anything and thus being owed lots of gold you could deal with loans but sort it out amongst yourselves fairly promptly please.
greatsword +2 lifestealing
ring of fire resistance minor NUV
masterwork longspears
"Goreshead" Medium +1 Human Bane Greataxe
Ring of Protection + 1 ZEL
Belt of Constitution + 2 NUV
Cloak of Resistance + 1 ZEL
Scrolls of animate dead x 2 (CL 5), speak with dead (CL 3)
Medium Breastplate + 1
Medium Bardiche + 1
Potion of Cure Moderate Wounds (CL 3) NEEDS ALLOCATION
Medium Studded leather + 1
Medium +1 Viscious Scorpion Whip
Composite Longbow (18 STR)
Masterwork scimitar
Composite Longbow (16 STR)
Beads of force ZEL
shortspear +1 shocking
Small +1 light spiked shield of bashing NUV
Hand of the mage
MW Shortspear
Cold Iron Morningstar + 1
- Mithril Chainmail + 2 of Fortification (light) LIN
- Headband of Wisdom + 4 LIN
- Cloak of Resistance + 1 (a multi-coloured Rovagugian item like the others)
- Scrolls of Bulls Strength, Resist Elements, Animate Dead x 2
- Masterwork Heavy Wooden Shield
4 Greataxes
- 3 Composite Longbows (+2 str)
- 7 Scimitars
- 4 Heavy Wooden Shields
- Wand of Monster Summoning II (not on the list by the by you may have classified as consumable, cost is charges/50 x price) ZEL
Assuming that can I have a post with [EQUIPMENT VALUE] + [NOTIONAL GOLD (SHARE - CLAIMS)].
For new stuff I am going to say you can buy (and sell) what you want up to the 5K level (excluding partly charged wands and the like). The greatsword isn't saleable but again with Grall and Khalid owed gold that shouldn't impact on buys.
The scrolls of Speak with Dead, Bulls STR, and Resist Energy should be bought with the party fund and added to Linah's Character, I will track the party fund as per usual.
Grall will take a 16STR Composite Bow and the potion of Cure Moderate Wounds. That a 400GP spend. That leaves him with 9093.71.
The only thing I might say is that if Zeladiel plans to continue to stay out of combat that the Ring of Protection +1 might be a good item for Grall to help his AC a little and more importantly his CMD but he can always ask Linah for Shields of Faith which will be more powerful anyways at +3 deflection bonus.
Expect Grall to place an order for a few scrolls from her once we get back to a place she can scribe them.
Ring of Protection is now Grall's. I just didn't want it being sold, and as I said- numberswise, not very useful for the wizard.
A question about the loot rules. I know that we've been through them before but please bear with me as i'm an idiot. When you say that Linah is but over the wealth limit and owing Khalid and Grall, that's taken from her share of the loot, right? She won't be able to account any loot for herself until she's either returned the loot to the sell pile or until the rest have risen to the same loot level has her?
The scrolls of Speak with Dead, Bulls STR, and Resist Energy should be bought with the party fund and added to Linah's Character, I will track the party fund as per usual.
Grall will take a 16STR Composite Bow and the potion of Cure Moderate Wounds. That a 400GP spend. That leaves him with 9093.71.
The only thing I might say is that if Zeladiel plans to continue to stay out of combat that the Ring of Protection +1 might be a good item for Grall to help his AC a little and more importantly his CMD but he can always ask Linah for Shields of Faith which will be more powerful anyways at +3 deflection bonus.
Expect Grall to place an order for a few scrolls from her once we get back to a place she can scribe them.
Are you absolutely sure you don't want the chain mail as well? As i said before, i only have a cosmetic reason for putting it on Linah.
Also, shouldn't the Cure Moderate Wounds be counted into the party fund? After all it's in all of our interests to keep you alive, and it's one less heal for either Khalid or Linah to administer.
Patrik, it should work as follows:
You start with 9493.71 gp. Your purchases would add up to:
8000gp+5125gp=13125gp. You are over about 4,000gp which would mean that two characters would take 2000gp less wealth right now or reduce the party treasury by 4000gp which is my first suggestion and you just owe the party treasury.
We shouldn't sweat it too much, the headband and armor make the most sense on Linah so take then.
K, I will take the ring.
Wealth is now 8093.71.
All right, Nuveril's share is 9493.71.
Belt of Mighty Con +2 is 2000 gp, +1 bashing spiked shield is 2084.5 gp, ring of fire resistance, minor is 6000 gp, for a total of 10,084.5 gp.
She had 923.6 gp in leftover wealth from last split. If she pays for the overage out of that, she's paid up with the group and has 332.81 gp left over, correct? You want to doublecheck my math on that, terok?
Also, we can sell our own obsolete gear at half-price, correct? So she can sell her +1 madu and keep the proceeds?
To the last sure. For the CMW potion yes its a consumable. I'm just reverting to my bugbear about allocating potions before they can be used.
To reiterate, once your done (which I think is now) can you give me [EQUIPMENT VALUE] + [NOTIONAL GOLD (9493.71 - CLAIMS)].
Preety, please? I'm not trying to make you jump through hoops. With quite a bit of (if temporary) variation I need to average the values to sort out what Alex gets.
What value would you like me to assign to Tempest? In its current form by the book its re-sale value would be 4157.5 gp, though I suspect that's about to go up again within the next level or two.
Go with current but not stressed I'll adjust as long as I know what value you used.
One last question so that I get it right when I get around to totaling things up this evening, for our existing equipment do you want us to use book value or selling value (i.e. 4,000 gp vs. 2,000 gp for the Belt of Dex +2)
With the belt, shield, and ring, HeroLab has Nuveril at 29,785 gp in gear, and if my math is right, she has 332.81 gp leftover, for a total of 30,117.81 gp.
That's before selling the madu. Assuming she sells that for half-value, that's 27,445 in equipment and 1502.81 leftover, for a total of 28,947.81 gp.
[EQUIPMENT VALUE] + [NOTIONAL GOLD (9493.71 - CLAIMS)].
21501.5 + (9493.71 - 585 Wand of Summon Monster II - 500 Cloak of Protection +1 - 175 Owed to Khalid - 90 forgot to copy Tiny Hut to spell book - 3000 Beads of Force x 2 = 5143.71) =
Total value = 26,645.21
Only too happy to give up Bead/s of Force to others.
Patrik, it should work as follows:
You start with 9493.71 gp. Your purchases would add up to:
8000gp+5125gp=13125gp. You are over about 4,000gp which would mean that two characters would take 2000gp less wealth right now or reduce the party treasury by 4000gp which is my first suggestion and you just owe the party treasury.We shouldn't sweat it too much, the headband and armor make the most sense on Linah so take then.
I should be able to sell the mithral breatplate +1 for 2600. So my balance should come up to a total treasure wealth allocation of 10525 gp (8000+5125-2600 = 13125 - 2600 = 10525). Or am i missing something?
To reiterate, once your done (which I think is now) can you give me [EQUIPMENT VALUE] + [NOTIONAL GOLD (9493.71 - CLAIMS)].Preety, please? I'm not trying to make you jump through hoops. With quite a bit of (if temporary) variation I need to average the values to sort out what Alex gets.
With the mithril chain mail and headband i have Linah at 32568 gp. That inclludes 1 scroll of Breath of Life, 1 scroll of Bull's Strength, 4 scrolls of enlarge person, 2 scrolls of invisibility purge, 2 scrolls of protection from Evil, 2 scrolls of remove curse, 2 scrolls of Remove disease, 2 scrolls of resist energy and 1 wand of cure light wounds (36/50 charges). I also have 432 gp in coins.
So my [EQUIPMENT VALUE] + [NOTIONAL GOLD (9493.71 - CLAIMS)] should be = 32568 + 9493 - 10252 = 42061 - 10525 = 31536 gp. Is that correct?
Loot allocation makes my head hurt :/
Loot allocation makes my head hurt :/
Mine, too. :P
One last question so that I get it right when I get around to totaling things up this evening, for our existing equipment do you want us to use book value or selling value (i.e. 4,000 gp vs. 2,000 gp for the Belt of Dex +2)
HeroLab counts book value, or what we (would have) paid for it rather than what we can sell it for, as it's not worth half until you try to sell it. So I hope that's what we're going by because it means a lot of the math is done for me. :)
Also, I haven't included any value for Nuveril's bronze disk. Afaik, it hasn't done anything for her mechanically yet....
One last question so that I get it right when I get around to totaling things up this evening, for our existing equipment do you want us to use book value or selling value (i.e. 4,000 gp vs. 2,000 gp for the Belt of Dex +2)
For equipment the book value. With your gold that will give me your average wealth. Unless you have it handy don't bother with the pouches or iron spikes. Just need to work out where you are so I'm fair to Alex's new character.
Loot allocation makes my head hurt :/Mine, too. :P
One last question so that I get it right when I get around to totaling things up this evening, for our existing equipment do you want us to use book value or selling value (i.e. 4,000 gp vs. 2,000 gp for the Belt of Dex +2)HeroLab counts book value, or what we (would have) paid for it rather than what we can sell it for, as it's not worth half until you try to sell it. So I hope that's what we're going by because it means a lot of the math is done for me. :)
Also, I haven't included any value for Nuveril's bronze disk. Afaik, it hasn't done anything for her mechanically yet....
Yup ignore the disc. Those things are my concern.
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Khalid has the following non-single use magic items:
Tempest = 8,315
Mithral Shirt +1 = 2,100
Belt of Dex + 2 = 4,000
Handy Haversack = 2,000
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Magic Total = 16,415 gp
Other Gear = ~150 gp
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Gear Total = 16,555 gp
Cash Total = 9,532.29 gp
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Total Wealth = 26,087.29 gp
Patrik, Grall is going to buy that Mithral breastplate from you for the sale value okay? It will give me 2 to my AC while keeping my ACP at -1.
Dan do you need my wealth or do you have enough with the others to average it?
May I have please. You and Khalid are less equipment / more gold than the other 3.
Patrik, Grall is going to buy that Mithral breastplate from you for the sale value okay? It will give me 2 to my AC while keeping my ACP at -1.
Go for it! As you may have gathered i'm not that into keeping track of loot so you can probably get it for a bargain :)
Equipment:
18,150gp sale value including new purchases
Gold:
9493.71-1000-2675-250-150=5418.71
Total=23,568.71 character wealth
Linah should ignore the scrolls since they were bought with the party treasury I think...but it will only make a couple of thousand difference...
All right, Nuveril's share is 9493.71.
Belt of Mighty Con +2 is 2000 gp, +1 bashing spiked shield is 2084.5 gp, ring of fire resistance, minor is 6000 gp, for a total of 10,084.5 gp.
She had 923.6 gp in leftover wealth from last split. If she pays for the overage out of that, she's paid up with the group and has 332.81 gp left over, correct? You want to doublecheck my math on that, terok?
Also, we can sell our own obsolete gear at half-price, correct? So she can sell her +1 madu and keep the proceeds?
Joana, I have a feeling you are going to get your money's worth out of that ring before this is all over...and at half price it is a good time to get it...
What do you guys think about a type 2 bag of holding for the party? It will allow us to carry enemy and our equipment more easily? We have enough to buy one and have some money left over.
Camping this weekend so I won't be able to post again until Sunday evening EST. Cheers!
I'm working on chapter 3 start (well as soon as I work out how to delink the chapter 2 game thread from the campaign anyway) but very busy few days. Can't get too far in any event without Alex's new character which I suspect won't be forthcoming until after the above date.
Can people make sure their finished with all of their ooc stuff. As well probably not a bad time to provide any feedback you might have on things before we delve into chapter 3. Things you don't like / like. Whatever. Chapter 3 will be a bit of a shift particularly from chapter 2 with more social encounters (compared to talking to shapeshifters, salamanders and mephit).
I believe we are going back to Katapesh in chapter 3?
If so there may be some stuff around Haleen as well as Grall's former owner Al' Versa or maybe even his trainer Hakim that may come into play. Grall still owe's Al' Versa a visit from Haleen even though he is slaver scum. He would probably feel some kind of obligation to do so once they are in Katapesh.
Other than that Grall isn't much for social situations so he will be of limited use.
Time for Linah and Khalid to step it up! :]
Can people make sure their finished with all of their ooc stuff. As well probably not a bad time to provide any feedback you might have on things before we delve into chapter 3. Things you don't like / like. Whatever. Chapter 3 will be a bit of a shift particularly from chapter 2 with more social encounters (compared to talking to shapeshifters, salamanders and mephit).
I'm fairly confident that my profile is up to date. As for what i like there's two destinct features of this game. First one is that the NPCs are more than a questgiver or a fight. They feel well fleshed out in interaction and i think they help to make the game more than a series of dungeon crawls.
The second thing is that you give descriptions (and quite good ones at that) rather than monster names. I think this adds to the excitement as i'm not a DnD scholar so i don't know the mechanics or specifics of the creatures we encounter. My favorites thus far in this aspect has been the Huecuva in chapter 1 and the Babau attacking us when resting in the crypt.
Another thing that just sprang to mind is that you encorporate character background in the story. Two thumbs up for that!
Edit: and yet another thing. The high pace of this game works well to keep the story moving, even if it means that i can't keep up all the time.
Chapter 3 will be up shortly although still some trouble linkifying.
wiii \o/
Chapter 3 will be up shortly although still some trouble linkifying.
Looks to me like you have to create a new gameplay thread and campaign and then link the old discussion thread to it, rather than being able to detach the old gameplay thread and add a new one to the existing campaign. I could be wrong, though.
Just to clarify, you want our character sheets updated to post-gear-selling? I have it all roughed out in HeroLab but haven't copied it over to my profile yet because I won't remember what I'm overwriting if I should need it again.
Linah's profile is updated to reflect the new equipment. I haven't settled the spells yet, waiting for the new game thread to start thinking about that stuff.
Chapter 3 will be up shortly although still some trouble linkifying.Looks to me like you have to create a new gameplay thread and campaign and then link the old discussion thread to it, rather than being able to detach the old gameplay thread and add a new one to the existing campaign. I could be wrong, though.
That is looking like the option.
New IC thread will start up on the weekend. Will finalise Alex's starting gold at the same time.
You can assume post gear selling we'll set our scene with you arriving back at Kelmarane. I think we just have the lifestealing sword unsold and with Khalid and Grall having mostly gold shares that doesn't create any issues.
Guess everyone else is happy more or less with the way things are going. From my side I'm still enjoying things. I do like the in-party banter in particular. And I do like using the NPCs you give me to further the plot or just make life difficult.
At a meta level time will have an effect on how things play out in chapter 3. The calendar has pretty much been in the background but I'll be more overt about it now. Aside from perhaps one of you there is nothing in particular stopping you from hanging out in Kelmarane as long as you like. Events will move along with or without you though.
This chapter also provides your last big shopping opportunity for quite a while. Items and money will still flow of course but after that opportunity ends your going to have less flexibility to choose your gear. No need to feel super rushed but just bear in mind.
I have really enjoyed the AP so far Dan, keep up the good work! Looking forward to seeing where this goes...
I like that, even though I don't grasp the whole ancient soap opera with Vardishal and his gang and I still don't really get the difference between djinns and janni and whatever all else is roaming around Katapesh, you've tied in Nuveril's backstory with events so that she (and I) have a reason to stay involved and on track, despite having no comprehension of the larger metanarrative.
Introducing AK's new character to Nuveril should be interesting, considering how many shapeshifters/imposters who end up betraying the party we've run into so far. ;)
Chapter 3 IC thread is here! Campaign thread and OC linking pending.
I make the current wealth levels (recalcing Linah to exclude scrolls, note the armour has a light fort enchant which adds a + 1 so you end up pretty close).
Grall 23,568.71
Khalid 26,087.29
Linah 30,737
Zeladiel 26,645.21
Nuv 28,947.81
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Avg 27,197.20
For gold reserves your a lot more variable (Khalid has his full 9493.71 unspent while Linah is over). Lets call Alex a round 24K in gear with the balance 3,197.20 waiting for him in Katapesh.
For the rest of you please just note somewhere how much of your 9493.71 you have spent (or owe in Linah's case). We will also need a calc on how much you have in the consumable share but perhaps that can wait til you restock in Kelmarane.
Lastly Patrik at some point can you just check how many CLW wand charges you have across the multiple wands. Not sure if everything got deducted properly.
We'll have a small scene as the group enters town and makes there way to Almah where we'll introduce you. Give me your crunch when you can please.