Corsario's Kingmaker (Inactive)

Game Master Corsario

My take for a Kingmaker Adventure Path. Around 12 players with a Level 7 starting level.
House at the Edge of Time map
Annotated Stolen Lands Map


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Lol i am the slowest in the mobile group. But my step hits hard. >:-)

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Nyssa Relanyth wrote:
My character can be found here.

On one side, wow! The best character presentation I have seen. Quite impressive!

On the other side. No. No, no, no. No.
I fear an army of Dhampirs looks like a nice NPC antagonist to the characters, but not something I would like "with" them. Much less if "neutral". Sounds like a force of enemies coming from Iobaria, and not something the rest can ally with.
Intelligence 7? Do you know what that means?
It means IQ 70, bottom 5% of the population, and that is defined as:
Mild mental retardation
Approximately 85% of the mentally retarded population is in the mildly retarded category. Their IQ score ranges from 50-75, and they can often acquire academic skills up to the 6th grade level. They can become fairly self-sufficient and in some cases live independently, with community and social support.
So... You are in, if you do the following changes:
- Elves (They come from Kyonin) or Humans (They come from Iobaria)
- No ability score below 10
- Alignment Good / I don't care

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Edeldhur wrote:
Mechanical question for Corsario: Was there some sort of balancing in terms of item creation feats for the respective teams?

Not at all.

I am supposing we can try to cover all the creation feats with all the players, and if not, well, doesn't matter.

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Kiritta Narvagoth wrote:
Not sure that I have any followers since I have a bunch of negatives between having a familiar and only 10 Cha.

Your leadership score is 7 (level) + 0 (Cha) + 3 (Renown and all) - 2 (familiar) = 8.

So you are right, no followers.

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Venetia Medvyed wrote:
The witch group is actually a rogue, wizard, witch and paladin, and only Kiritta is not of noble birth.

Impressions, impressions...

To the "normal" people you are witches. A coven. They do and believe in strange things. They approach with fear and unease.
In Kiritta case I have not discussed with her, but she will be Varisian "nobility". Not the same as Brevoy nobility, but noble born anyway.

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Ni'Tir and Chimalma wrote:
Lol i am the slowest in the mobile group. But my step hits hard. >:-)

And it air walks! :P


Corsario wrote:
Varisian "nobility"

Is that like the descendant of a rune-lord or something?

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Venetia Medvyed wrote:
Corsario wrote:
Varisian "nobility"
Is that like the descendant of a rune-lord or something?

No, more like a princess of the Gypsies on he style of this.


Corsario wrote:
Nyssa Relanyth wrote:
My character can be found here.

On one side, wow! The best character presentation I have seen. Quite impressive!

On the other side. No. No, no, no. No.
I fear an army of Dhampirs looks like a nice NPC antagonist to the characters, but not something I would like "with" them. Much less if "neutral". Sounds like a force of enemies coming from Iobaria, and not something the rest can ally with.
Intelligence 7? Do you know what that means?
It means IQ 70, bottom 5% of the population, and that is defined as:
Mild mental retardation
Approximately 85% of the mentally retarded population is in the mildly retarded category. Their IQ score ranges from 50-75, and they can often acquire academic skills up to the 6th grade level. They can become fairly self-sufficient and in some cases live independently, with community and social support.
So... You are in, if you do the following changes:
- Elves (They come from Kyonin) or Humans (They come from Iobaria)
- No ability score below 10
- Alignment Good / I don't care

Your changes aren't possible without scrapping the character as no good aligned cleric can make undead. I do not have the time to remake this character, having already put eight hours into it. I make a new character for every submission based on what comes to me as I read the submission request. Kingmaker specifically allows for every kind of King, and therefore party, and this is the concept that came to me. If I made another character at this point, it wouldn't be mine, but rather yours, and I don't think I'd have fun under those conditions.

I don't mind turning them into elves. I don't mind bumping the Int up to 8, 9 or 18. The alignment requirement is not possible however, without making an entirely different character. Had you said "Good Only" rather than "No Evil" in your request for submissions, I'd not have made this character.

Send me a private message if you change your mind on the alignment and maybe we can work something out. If not, best of luck to all of you, I hope you enjoy your game.

PS:
Naturally, it's your game and you can run it however you like. Something you may want to consider however is that Pathfinder represents mental acuity with two scores, Intelligence and Wisdom. Intelligence represents a characters propensity for study and knowledge based pursuits. Wisdom represents the same, but outside of books/the classroom. If that were not the case, Witches/Wizards would dominate the world leaving all the stupid people behind. That doesn't seem very realistic, much less reasonable, to me.

My character has little use for scholarly pursuits but is a far cry from mentally retarded. Added to that is the fact that the stats are bell curves and not linear functions, and I think the whole Int to IQ thing falls short.

Anyway, it's something to think about I suppose, and not really an argument I'm interested in having. It's your game, you should run it how you like.


Neji and Destroyerman are finished. I'm glad that they had an avatar that looked a lot of what I envisioned Ms. N to be like. I am also glad that Pathfinder has so many constructs to use, so a flying robot eidolon is not that out of place.

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Nyssa Relanyth wrote:
Your changes aren't possible without scrapping the character as no good aligned cleric can make undead.

Yeap, that was the idea. No undead making, no channel negative energy.

Nice character, maybe in another game, with a different DM.

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Neji Lazula wrote:
Neji and Destroyerman are finished. I'm glad that they had an avatar that looked a lot of what I envisioned Ms. N to be like. I am also glad that Pathfinder has so many constructs to use, so a flying robot eidolon is not that out of place.

Not really a "robot", right?


Corsario wrote:
Neji Lazula wrote:
Neji and Destroyerman are finished. I'm glad that they had an avatar that looked a lot of what I envisioned Ms. N to be like. I am also glad that Pathfinder has so many constructs to use, so a flying robot eidolon is not that out of place.
Not really a "robot", right?

Correct. He's just an eidolon who looks and acts like a golem/construct.


Hi, Corsario. I assume you wanted all posts redirected to this thread now?

If so... I can make aliases right now for Anton and Sofia, if I 'got in'. Regarding followers, well, it turns out I'll have to redo what I had, on account of me being a twit and leaving my notebook at work, which is closed for two weeks. *facepalm* I'm not usually this disorganized, I promise.

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El Ronza wrote:


If so... I can make aliases right now for Anton and Sofia, if I 'got in'. Regarding followers, well, it turns out I'll have to redo what I had, on account of me being a twit and leaving my notebook at work, which is closed for two weeks. *facepalm* I'm not usually this disorganized, I promise.

You got in, so yes, please make the aliases.

Remember: the second time you make them better! :P


I like the Riders.

The Greenbelt needs discipline and clearly those of use who have trained our whole lives to be well oiled teams with our horses, and weapons are the ones to deliver it.

Maybe we can call ourselves, the Hell's Archons lol.

But I like the idea of us being a calvary, I might talk to our awesome GM about a potential edit to Marcus in terms of his initial classes if we want to do a Calvary themed team. I could see Marius being an Order of the Cockatrice or even Sword Cavalier for his first 4 levels, a weapon master for his 5th and then Hellknight again.

It doesn't matter though I like this group.

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*** Important News ***
In my DM style sometimes I give clues, or make recommendations, and I like my players to notice them. Maybe a whiff of air coming from a dungeon tunnel. Maybe a crooked or burning tree on one of the crossroads way. Subtle ways of telling the players "over there first!". Not a way to harm them, nor railroad them, just a friendly recommendation. And if the players take heed, well, I thank them.
In this case the leadership feat. The "Strongly recommended" leadership feat. In a normal recruitment I would have said "Leadership feat as a bonus feat", but I wanted to see if you trust me enough to "waste" a feat on it. And you did, thank you very much.
So... Leadership feat as a Bonus Feat. You all can get a new level 7 feat.

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Marius du'Caat wrote:

I like the Riders.

The Greenbelt needs discipline and clearly those of use who have trained our whole lives to be well oiled teams with our horses, and weapons are the ones to deliver it.

Maybe we can call ourselves, the Hell's Archons lol.

But I like the idea of us being a calvary, I might talk to our awesome GM about a potential edit to Marcus in terms of his initial classes if we want to do a Calvary themed team. I could see Marius being an Order of the Cockatrice or even Sword Cavalier for his first 4 levels, a weapon master for his 5th and then Hellknight again.

It doesn't matter though I like this group.

Well, you can get whatever name you like, but don't get too attached, as the plan is for the different "teams" to mix and match from now on.

If you feel like editing Marcus, please, do it. Take into account you have an extra feat now.


Corsario wrote:

*** Important News ***

In my DM style sometimes I give clues, or make recommendations, and I like my players to notice them. Maybe a whiff of air coming from a dungeon tunnel. Maybe a crooked or burning tree on one of the crossroads way. Subtle ways of telling the players "over there first!". Not a way to harm them, nor railroad them, just a friendly recommendation. And if the players take heed, well, I thank them.
In this case the leadership feat. The "Strongly recommended" leadership feat. In a normal recruitment I would have said "Leadership feat as a bonus feat", but I wanted to see if you trust me enough to "waste" a feat on it. And you did, thank you very much.
So... Leadership feat as a Bonus Feat. You all can get a new level 7 feat.

WOOHOO!!!! PARTY TIME!!!!


YAY for bonus feats!!!

Corsario, one other question - I have seen some story feats flying around - these are not bonus feats, correct? :D


Corsario wrote:

*** Important News ***

In my DM style sometimes I give clues, or make recommendations, and I like my players to notice them. Maybe a whiff of air coming from a dungeon tunnel. Maybe a crooked or burning tree on one of the crossroads way. Subtle ways of telling the players "over there first!". Not a way to harm them, nor railroad them, just a friendly recommendation. And if the players take heed, well, I thank them.
In this case the leadership feat. The "Strongly recommended" leadership feat. In a normal recruitment I would have said "Leadership feat as a bonus feat", but I wanted to see if you trust me enough to "waste" a feat on it. And you did, thank you very much.
So... Leadership feat as a Bonus Feat. You all can get a new level 7 feat.

Does Venetia get a bonus feat too since in her case Leadership is already a bonus feat from the Noble Scion class?

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Edeldhur wrote:
Corsario, one other question - I have seen some story feats flying around - these are not bonus feats, correct? :D

Besides your normal feats, and the bonus Leadership feat, you get an extra story feat (and the Cohort too).

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Venetia Medvyed wrote:
Does Venetia get a bonus feat too since in her case Leadership is already a bonus feat from the Noble Scion class?

No, she does not. But she got a nice wolf :)


Corsario wrote:
Venetia Medvyed wrote:
Does Venetia get a bonus feat too since in her case Leadership is already a bonus feat from the Noble Scion class?
No, she does not. But she got a nice wolf :)

Well Tarina got the wolf, but the idea of the Noble Scion is to make the cohort stronger :), and eventually get a second NPC class only cohort (if and when we get to that point, I think Tarina's nanny will become the "servitor").


No unless you want me to, I think the only thing I might do is make Marius and Hrraggar LG.

I just like the idea of a troupe of riders lol.


Sorry for being dark. I was out of it for a while.

OK. I believe I've fully completed this character. I still need to work a little more on the cohort, and figure out the followers.

For team "witch with a single witch", which item creation feats do you have access to (via self or cohort)? I've grabbed Craft Wondrous Items, since that's what I have the most of.

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Marius du'Caat wrote:

No unless you want me to, I think the only thing I might do is make Marius and Hrraggar LG.

I just like the idea of a troupe of riders lol.

No need to change on my behalf. I would like the alignment change, but it is not needed.


Ahh, just realized that one of the bonus feats was supposed to be a Story Feat. For some reason, I was thinking "any feat".


The rider group is gonna be awesome! A flying stegosaurus, a pair of cavalier with ride by attack and mounts with 80 ft movement speeds hehe and a small army of silver clad troops. All we need now is some catapults a ballista and a fort to smash!

Greenbelt here we come! :D


Team witch (which?) will simple eliminate the enemy before they have a chance to get close enough to attack.


So quick question by taking the drawback did we get another bonus feat or trait because in the first post it said feat lol. Once i know the answer i will wither have already selected an extra feat or i will have another one to get. :)


Yay, Kaldwell goes stealthy.

Working on finishing up his companion now.


@Marius

Hopefully a bunch of Cg and Ng aligned characters won't clash with your he'll knight too much. As Danath and his followers appear to worship CC, while my group worships the Green faith. Just a heads up. ;)

Granted i think Corsario wasn't too hooked on alignment being the lawfully stupid or overbearing things they could be. No pun intended I've just played a number of lawful good paladins and sometimes LG is just stifling in how rigid the alignment can be.

However i look forward to our group of riders. :) I can be an aerial scout at times lol. Also do you have followers Marius?


@Nyssa what program did you use to make your character sheet? o.O;

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No, didn't want to mess with them. Only idea I had for them was basically a copy of one of the Knight's with his batch of squires.

I only play LG or CG players, I find they give me the most creative outlets. LN was just a minor tweak, but I think I'll go back to LG so I don't bother our wonderful GM.


@Corsario

I am still in and going to enjoy this game immensely I think. >:)

I doubt there is a way for Danath to get himself a Fiefdom unless you'd allow that feat from the Arthurian Sword and Sorcery book Ni'Tir was talking about lol as 90% of my starting GP is already gone. Not trying to steal Venetia's thunder by any means, just trying to keep with the noble theme. If there is a way to buy/build an outpost in the northern greenbelt instead then that would fit too as Danath has a mobile force and that would be an easy way of having a BoO. :) Just let me know what it would cost and I will switch my items around to make it work. I also have most of the pathfinder books so I can research it myself too~

So now we need to come up with exploits and reasons why our four characters would hang out.


@P33J

Ni'Tir had a good point, but I think your not one of those overboard Alignment types hehe. Especially from your post above as I normally play LG or CG, CG however gives me the most freedom. Pardon the pun. :)

Our group will be interesting. Too bad you won't have any followers but I understand as that can be a headache to deal with lol. I have an army to move and march around so I know especially. :D But for Danath that is all part of the theme!

We are the Four horsemen of the Greenbelt. The Silver Dragonflight are on the march and hell followed behind them for the fate of all bandits of the lawless land were in their hands. A new age of freedom came on swift hooves and clawed feet!


Looks like much of my team isn't showing up yet. If I have transfer, I can't help but wonder which team needs the band-aid box the most.


Okana, Kaldwell's companion.

Okana:

Okana
Female Half-Orc Invulnerable Urban Barbarian 5
Neutral Good Medium Humanoid (Orc, Human)
Initiative; +4 Perception +8
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Defense
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AC 20 touch 15 flat-footed 15
hp 70
Fort +8, Ref +7, Will +3
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Offence
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Speed 30 ft.
Melee Scimitar +9 (1d6+4 damage, 18-20x2)
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Statistics
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Str 13 Dex 18, Con 14, Int 10 Wis 10, Cha 12
Base Atk +5; CMB +6; CMD 20
Feats Endurance, Dervish Dance, Weapon Finesse, Extra Rage, Shamed
Traits Killer, Fate’s Favored
Racial Traits Sacred Tattoos, Shaman’s Apprentice, Darkvision (60ft)
Skills Diplomacy +9, Perception +8, Climb+9, Swim +9
Languages Common, Orc
SQ Invulnerability Damage Reduction 2, Controlled Rage (25 rounds, +4 Dexterity)
Combat Gear + 1 Scimitar (2015gp), +1 Mithral Shirt (2100gp)
Other Gear Heavyload Belt (2000gp), Muleback Cords (1000gp), Gloves of Reconnaissance (2000gp) 885gp
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Special Abilities
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Extreme Endurance (Cold), Crowd Control, Lesser Spirit Totem, Renewed Vigor (2d8+2),

Appearance:
Okana is a thin, almost gangly Half Orc, her dark green skin covered in vivid purple tattoos across her body. The tattoos run in a pattern - on one half, swiling across the left side of her face, across the right side of her body and then down the left legs are intricate swirls and whorls of colour. On the right side of her face, left part of her body and right leg are the sacred blessings of her people, prayers and charms of protections and luck. Even the palms of her hands and soles of her feet are covered.

Okana is and odd looking woman - the merging of human and Orc blood in her giving her a look that is alien to both. Her face is soft and calm, her jaw bones human, but her eyes are deep and intense. She shaves her hair, to expose the tattoos there, further adding to her odd look in most peoples eyes.

She wears her silvery mithril armour openly, he curved scimitar on her back and the symbol of Sarenrae displayed prominently. Although she owns them she almost never wears boots or shoes unless something makes her, instead preferring to keep her connection to the earth.

Personality:
Okana is kind, calm and serene. Her rages aren't the blood rage of the traditional orc, but a deeper seated anger that the world is not the place she thinks it should be, that the world is not right, rather than anger at an individual. It allows her to move incredibly fast.

Despite that, Okana feels her mixed blood strongly. She's proud of her orc heritage, proud of who she is to the point where she demanded the tattoos of her people across her body. She takes great pride in keeping up with there martial traditions, even if she fights in a non traditional way.

However, since her humiliating beating she has become more driven, more determined to prove herself and her blood, her ways. She lacked the raw strength to fight people off, the power to burst her bonds in a furious rage, and that frustrates her. She seeks to find ways to make her abilities stronger, faster - she wishes to be able to react fast enough that, even when waking, she can't be caught off guard.

Background:
Okana was always the odd one out. Born to a half-orc merchant and his human wife, Okana's orc blood shone through from birth. But she was probably the least typical half-orc any one had run across. She was calm, kind and agile. What she lacked in muscle he made up for with speed.

Perhaps oddly for someone as far from the typical orc as she, Okana was fascinated by her ancestors. As she approached adulthood she begged, pleaded and eventually convinced her parents to allow her to visit her paternal grandmother, an ancient Orc Witch known as Geral the Grey Curse. It was a unique experience.

To learn of there ways, Geral made the gangly youth her apprentice. Geral was harsh, but Okana refused to break and leave, gaining her grandmother's grudging respect and eventual acceptance when she demanded the sacred tattoos of her blood. Her grandmother tattooed the swirling patterns and blessings with her own hand.

But Okana had no real skill with magic, despite her training. Her skill with the sword was exceptional, and her mother, a devotee to Sarenrae, was able to help her be trained by one of the local Paladins in the ways of the Dervish. Okana, never comfortable with the rage of her orc blood, found that she could focus it into additional speed and power. Her scarred, tattooed flesh made her tougher - her speed made her lethal.

Wishing to join the Pathfinder Society, Okana started a journey to Absalom. She never arrived. Staying at a village, Okana found herself dragged from her room at the inn, bound in the town square and flogged for theft. She never even managed to grab her sword before they dragged her away. I wasn't until Kaldwell, a human noble, arrived and put and end to the beating that she was released. Kaldwell recognized much in them that was the same - the same wiry build, the same desire to find a place to belong, the same wish to see the world - and invited Okana to journey with him. Now the two are thick as thieves, although Okana inists that they rarely steal anything.


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Well I for one welcome you to join the riders Janus if needed! Especially as one of ours hasn't shown himself yet either~ XD

A band of fighting men and women always need more healers lol!

I would have made some of my troops full clerics but adept was the only thing close enough. ;)

I'm excited to know whether or not I can build an outpost or if we will be marching about with several tents until we capture one in the greenbelt somewhere. Its gonna be awesome either way!

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Don't forget, the "old" teams are flavor only, the idea is for all of you to integrate in one big happy party, and mix and mash as required (and possible if not many other players show up).

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About the outpost, fiefdom, etc.
Welcome to Kingmaker!
All of you will become landowners, the start of the new nobility in the Stolen Lands (or whatever you are going to call them) and you will be building forts, towns, roads, bridges, etc.
But first you need to see where...


Sounds good Corsario! :)

Looking forward to getting this show on the road!


Once I know Danath is in the clear I will work on the extra feat as I am in the same boat as Ni'Tir. I thought that taking the Drawback would give a bonus feat not a bonus trait after reading over the first post. But we will see. :)


I took Extra Revelation for my new feat and grabbed Combat Healer. That should help out quite a bit at the oddest moments.


Janus Sevenstar wrote:
Looks like much of my team isn't showing up yet. If I have transfer, I can't help but wonder which team needs the band-aid box the most.

Edeldhur was the first to chime in regarding our team Janus, and I am still here ;)

Silver Crusade

If I disappear for a few days, my wife's due date for our 3rd child is today. She is having contractions too. So here's hoping.


Congrats and have fun P33J! :D


Rhasadilara Wynterfall wrote:

Sorry for being dark. I was out of it for a while.

OK. I believe I've fully completed this character. I still need to work a little more on the cohort, and figure out the followers.

For team "witch with a single witch", which item creation feats do you have access to (via self or cohort)? I've grabbed Craft Wondrous Items, since that's what I have the most of.

Neither Venetia nor her daughter Tarina have access to any crafting feats, however Venetia might get one at level 7 since I will no longer have a need for boon companion.


I have one craft feat. Currently Craft Wands, assuming someone else will take Craft Wondrous Items. I can easily switch it to something else to avoid duplicates. Craft Magic Arms and Armor is also good. It is my level 5 wizard feat, so I cannot get Craft Rings.

If someone else, or their cohort, can take the craft feats, I would love to get a few metamagic feats, or other casting feats (Spell Penetration, Augment Summoning, etc.)

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