I think it boils down to 4+Int at level 1. And then 24 more spells (levels 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7).
My preliminary spell list for level 2 alone had 29 spells in it - MUAH!! I think I will have to end up buying scrolls anyway :/
"Sting" doesn't talk, he likes to keep for himself - Edeldhur has him because of the whole "he could not help it, it was...Ok, scrolls cost half if you made them, full of you bought them.
Ok, so any spell to be added to my spellbook besides those 4+Int+24, I should assume full price for the correspondent scroll, correct?
So String is a silent partner in your society... OK.I am still not 100% sure on my familiar to be honest - I am also very interested in the thrush, exactly because he talks - on the other hand he lacks the more somber feeling I would like in a familiar.
As a final consideration, the truth of it is that the bond to an item instead would allow me even more versatility, so nothing is settled yet - when I get to that part of my background I'll see about it.
What UMD? The spell is nice, but not for wizards, right?I was just saying that if I manage to pack a decent UMD, I will be able to use that spell, plus others, from a scroll - versatility here I come :D
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Danath Medvyed
An excellent character for Kingmaker... I am imagining your followers as an elite military force, kind like Achilles and the Mirmidons.
Remember: the Cohort is a secondary character for you to use in a second adventure, at the same time as your primary one. You will be playing both adventures. If your cohort is a mount then that doesn't works.What happened to the Dinosaur-Riding Druid? I was started to imagine Plot hooks for it...
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Ok, so any spell to be added to my spellbook besides those 4+Int+24, I should assume full price for the correspondent scroll, correct?
Correct!
I was just saying that if I manage to pack a decent UMD, I will be able to use that spell, plus others, from a scroll - versatility here I come :D
UMD = Use Magic Device! That's what I hadn't understand...
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Ok, Dylos characters revision:
Venetia Medvyed
You are missing, in the character sheet, her 3 Hero Points
Where her stipend comes from? Parents, properties, bussiness?
You calculated the equipment with "normal" prices, you can use craft prices.
Followers information missing... I would recommend one of them is Tarina's nanny, since she was born.
Extra Magic Item: Instead of the Muleback cords you got a couple golden bracelets, each with a special symbol (your choice). Besides having the effect o the Muleback Cords you are able to feel the direction Tarina is, and how is she (emphatically speaking - cold? hungry? mad? hurt?). You can send a message (like the sending spell) every 24 hours.
Story feat notes: You will need to loose Tarina.
Tarina Medvyed
Intelligence 8? I don't like it... I would STRONGLY recommend you raise it to 10...
What is her Kingmaker trait?
Speak with animals should only be for only 2 kinds
Same issue with her equipment
What animal ally?
From where the Sailor profession?
Why 60 HP?
What was her story feat?
Extra Magic Item: The other bracelet. It detects Venetia. The "message" is 1/day between the two bracelets, if one of you use it the other can't send a message before 24 hours have elapsed.
All recommendations, all subject to revision with you. If something you don't like, please tell me and we will work it out.
Who is next?
I'll recalculate gold, tomorrow, added the Hero Points. Stipend, let me think on it. Follower information I will see about getting to tomorrow.
The magic item sounds interesting, can it count as a holy symbol, because it seems to make the holy symbol rings less useful.
Tarina has a regional trait instead of a kingmaker trait right now, this is her river kingdoms regional trait, which gives a bonus to sailor. The trait is mainly for survival in her case. I fixed the speak with animals. Her animal ally is a wolf, I need to stat it.
60 hp, what's the problem, her HD is 6d8 (48) with 12 con (+12 hp) her favored class bonuses are in skill points so that should be correct.
Her story feat, I never got it on the sheet, but it was discussed earlier.
This was her story feat:
Arshea's Herald (Story)
Early in your life, you were visited by Arshea in your dreams and she told you that she had great things in mind for your future. Now, you have dedicated your life to helping Arshea ascend to godhood much like Sarenrae did.
Prerequisite(s): Must be Tarina.
Benefit(s): So long as you maintain your Celestial Obedience, your form suggests the best traits of both the masculine and the feminine. Your lithe body is physically ideal with a flawless combination of lean muscles and soft curves. While your body is still far from that of Arshea herself, you consider any non-asexual intelligent creature as one who could be sexually attracted to you.
Goal: Help Arshea ascend to godhood. In the process of completing this task, you must decisively defeat a challenging foe that seeks to deny Arshea godhood.
Completion Benefit(s): ?
So basically her obedience bonus "Gain a +4 sacred bonus on Charisma checks and Charisma-based skill checks when interacting with an intelligent creature who could be sexually attracted to you." applies to any non-asexual intelligent creature.
The secrets sound good, I will work on possibly expanding on Tarina's, of course even with that she still is a polygamist :).
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The magic item sounds interesting, can it count as a holy symbol, because it seems to make the holy symbol rings less useful.
Tarina has a regional trait instead of a kingmaker trait right now, this is her river kingdoms regional trait, which gives a bonus to sailor. The trait is mainly for survival in her case. 60 hp, what's the problem, her HD is 6d8 (48) with 12 con (+12 hp) her favored class bonuses are in skill points so that should be correct.
Arshea's Herald (Story)
The secrets sound good, I will work on...
About the bracelets being holy symbols... Nah, they are family stuff, not religious stuff. Give the bracelets a cool name, BTW.
The Regional trait is OK. But it says Profession Sailor OR Survival... You are taking sailor?The story feat, sorry, I had forgot. Please, put all of that in the character sheet and/or alias for easy reference.
Flesh out the wolf. Some people don't like animal companions because they are weak at this levels, easy to die and hard to keep around.
But I like them. So...
My issue (and the reason I asked about the HP). I want the players to play 2 adventures at the same time, one with the main characters and one with the cohorts. But Tarina, being level 6, throws me off balance. I keep thinking she is level 5, as the rest. I want her to be level 5, like the rest. But fair is fair, so...
What about trading that last Tarina level for a better wolf? Something more useful and resilient?
Glad you liked your secrets. I concur in what you say about Tarina, in her case is more caring than lusting. I need to find a good object of her affection, one filled with Plot hooks.
so it does the intention was to pick survival so i dropped the sailor bonus.
As to the stronger wolf, how much stronger are we talking because the difference befween level 5 and 6 is a spell level for oracles. Are we talking about a template such as celestial, advanced, or giant, or are we talking increased druid level? If I had wanted increased driid level I would have taken the revelation rather then two feats, except that I intend to multiclass Tarina, so the current plan for her is to take Boon Companion at 7th level.
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As to the stronger wolf, how much stronger are we talking because the difference befween level 5 and 6 is a spell level for oracles. Are we talking about a template such as celestial, advanced, or giant, or are we talking increased druid level? If I had wanted increased druid level I would have taken the revelation rather then two feats, except that I intend to multiclass Tarina, so the current plan for her is to take Boon Companion at 7th level.Are you changing the Str 8?
I got it! I wanted those Oracle Curses to be there... and I know how:
- Tongues: You can't coordinate in combat, while in combat you only speak celestial
- Clouded Vision: I love this! Besides the normal hindrance, you have an extra one. You see ALL creatures as sexually attractive. You don't see ANYONE as ugly or repellent.
What do you think?
You mean the 8 intelligence? I'll see, I'd have to adjust her other stats to compensate...actually what the hell, her PB seems off...
Str 12, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 12, Cha 18 seems to be a 17 point build if both the racial adjustment and the +1 stat at level 4 are in charisma.
So I can change it to:
Str 12, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 18 and it's a 20 point build.
I'm thinking I forgot the +1 stat from level 4 on her because
Str 12, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 12, Cha 16 is a 20 point build.
Consider her stats changed to Str 12, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 18.
The additional hindrance of clouded vision sounds interesting, especially considering that everyone would find Tarina sexually attractive too, I like it, perma-beer goggles.
The celestial dire wolf looks nice, but that's 3.5, would we use the same stats for pathfinder? And what effective druid level would that be at, because 6 HD would normally be a 6th level effective druid level, based off the Feat, Tarina should have an effective druid level of character level -3 so 3rd at level 6 or 2nd at level 5.
Here is the pathfinder dire wolf, the celestial template gives it Darkvision 60 feet, Resist Cold, Acid, and Electricity 10, DR 5/evil, SR 9 or 10 and smite evil 1/day. That results in it being slightly different then the 3.5 one, note that both are large, despite that the 3.5 saying medium, it has a size modifier of -1 on AC. The pathfinder dire wolf has 5 HD, needing an effective druid level of 5th.
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Consider her stats changed to Str 12, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 18.
Sounds great
The additional hindrance of clouded vision sounds interesting, especially considering that everyone would find Tarina sexually attractive too, I like it, perma-beer goggles.
That is the idea!
The celestial dire wolf looks nice, but that's 3.5, would we use the same stats for pathfinder? And what effective druid level would that be at, because 6 HD would normally be a 6th level effective druid level, based off the Feat, Tarina should have an effective druid level of character level -3 so 3rd at level 6 or 2nd at level 5.
Her level would be 5. Effective, nominal, all of it.
The Celestial Dire Wolf would be a "boon" from Arshea , something especial, out of the ordinary. He would also be more "independent", because most of his power would be from Arshea directly (meaning: Yours to control, mine to use as a plot device). On a side note, the wolf can change his/her gender at will.So, we have a deal?
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Here is the pathfinder dire wolf, the celestial template gives it Darkvision 60 feet, Resist Cold, Acid, and Electricity 10, DR 5/evil, SR 9 or 10 and smite evil 1/day. That results in it being slightly different then the 3.5 one, note that both are large, despite that the 3.5 saying medium, it has a size modifier of -1 on AC. The pathfinder dire wolf has 5 HD, needing an effective druid level of 5th.
We go with the Pathfinder Celestial Dire Wolf. 5 HD.
Sounds acceptable, I'll remove the 6th level and make the proper adjustments.
Can I change feats/skill points of the wolf as normal?
So, who is next?
Edeldhur is not done yet :/
I believe I am ready.
I am so glad you have the recruitment open until end of the month. Never again will I work 50 hours while starting a new semester. I am down to one job now though, so this should not happen again. On the plus side, my bank account is happy.
I'm reading through the posts right now, but if someone would take pity on me and tell what needs to be done right now, that would be wonderful. Should have paladin cohort stated up by midnight tonight.
Taking a look at the current roster of cohorts, it seems that we are still missing a dedicated arcane. Have I missed something?
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Taking a look at the current roster of cohorts, it seems that we are still missing a dedicated arcane. Have I missed something?
Glad to have you back... We got new equipment rules:
In fact the new equipment rules are :
Gold: 24,000 GP (including magic items)
Item Limits - Choose one, no mix and match, only one option:
1) House rule option:
1 up to 10,000 GP
1 up to 5,000 GP
All the rest up to 2,500 GP
Maximum 8 magic items (all prices ranges), not counting wands, potions or scrolls.
2 wands maximum
10 potions/scrolls maximum
2) Open Content Guidelines
Up to 6,000 GP on weapons
Up to 6,000 GP on armor and protective devices
Up to 6,000 GP on other magic items
Up to 3,600 GP on disposable items like potions, scrolls, and wands
The remaining money on ordinary gear and coins.
Note about magic items creation feats:
Suppose someone on your team has the correct Item Creation Feat for your items. That means you can have your items made at creation cost.
And I am reviewing characters... Venetia and Arv have been reviewed, and I am asking for volunteers.
Ok, I will start the second phase. Check in detail the characters:
- Background / History
- Crunch
- Cohort
- Followers
- Story feat (Main and Cohort)
I will also, for each one, give you:
- A secret
- Plot points
- An extra magic item (more or less like Arden Darist secret identity "bird")
- Conditions for both the story feats (Main and Cohort)
So let me know when ready.
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Dylos and P33J... Just seen you are mastering games in the Pathfinder Society PbP "Gameday". Well done. I don't have a level 7 character to enter P33J's game (don't have any, in fact) or would have entered yours. But I did sign up for Dylos' Snows of Summer one. I sign up for DM in Carrion Hill. Good luck for us all.
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A preliminary Cohort list... Courtesy of Dylos
BinkyBo -> Arv Akul'mar -> Mulray Gasparo - Rogue 5
Dylos -> Venetia Medvyed -> Tarina - Oracle 5
Jubal Breakbottle -> Szymon Wojcik -> Tatiana - Cleric 5
Lloyd Jackson -> Salereon Gavriil -> Michael Surtova - Paladin 5
P33J -> Marius du'Caat -> Hraggar - Cleric 5
CrazyYodler -> Gerad Jortem -> ?
Cosmic Dream Lord -> Janus Sevenstar -> Neji - Summoner?
Dark Netwerk -> Rhasadilara Wynterfall -> melee?
Edeldhur -> Reknar -> ?
Otm-Shank -> Arden Darist -> ?
Sai Ling (Qorin) -> Edrawn -> Qorinae - Rogue?
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Dylos and P33J... Just seen you are mastering games in the Pathfinder Society PbP "Gameday". Well done. I don't have a level 7 character to enter P33J's game (don't have any, in fact) or would have entered yours. But I did sign up for Dylos' Snows of Summer one. I sign up for DM in Carrion Hill. Good luck for us all.
It's going to be a fun event for sure, I still need to figure out if I want to play in any of the games. Also if I time things right I will get my first star from the event.
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Danath's Cohort, Seraph
Ok, I like the couple of knights, and the history between them.
But they have 15 WIS BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM!That means strong naïveté ,child like attention span, lack of awareness and consequence understanding ...
I would strongly recommend to avoid having them those strong handicaps.
Thanks. Unfortunately the paladin will not be finished tonight. Internet is down.
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Will I need to buy arms and provisions with Danath's starting gold for his followers? Just wondering as that will cause another change.
Let me check:level 7+ 3 by creation guidelines, +1 natural born leader, +1 charisma = 12
That means 8 followers... Can you increase it so you have 13 in the leadership score and 11 followers?They equipment follows their own rules, but unless you want to do the accounting we will only assume they have the correct equipment for their job.
Speaking of which... Nice story feats,I will need to revise them with you.
About the story feat question the quick answer is yes. But maybe we need to talk more about it.
Wow, I really missed the deadline on this one. Shame, I have a mage of the third eye I've been wanting to try out. If anything opens up please let me know.
Good gaming all.
For my animal companion, is it max hp as well, just like PCs? Or would it have less then max?
actually, the deadline has not been missed, it is the end of September, the title has the wrong date.Wow, I really missed the deadline on this one. Shame, I have a mage of the third eye I've been wanting to try out. If anything opens up please let me know.
Good gaming all.
Oh, In that case I'll tweak my character a bit then submit it for your review.
Initially I use Herobuilder, but for actual games I edit the output to be easier to read, adding spoilers and what not.
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In fact the recruitment is still open, up to September 29th, if you want. The updated rules are HERE.
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Now with the cohorts are we doing a heroic stats or 20 point build as well? Forgot to ask~
Same creation rules as the main character (the cohort will work as a "secondary" PC so you will be playing two adventures at the same time, one with the Main Level 7 character and one with the Cohort Level 5 one.
- Up to level 5 - depending on your leadership score (you have the leadership feat, right?)Gold: 10,000 GP (including magic items)
Item Limits - Choose one, no mix and match, only one option:
1) House rule option:
1 up to 4,000 GP
3 up to 1,500 GP
All the rest less than 1,000 GP
Maximum 6 magic items (all prices ranges), not counting wands, potions or scrolls.
1 wands maximum
5 potions/scrolls maximum
2) Open Content Guidelines
Up to 2,500 GP on weapons
Up to 2,500 GP on armor and protective devices
Up to 2,500 GP on other magic items
Up to 1,500 GP on disposable items like potions, scrolls, and wands
The remaining money on ordinary gear and coins.
FOLLOWERS:
If you have "8 level 1 warriors", in game you will manage 8 level 1 warriors. And I will consider them as such.
If you make details for 1 and leave the others as "generics" that is fine too.
If you detail all, perfect, I'll see how to use them.
But those are not characters. NPC classes only, normal NPC rules. You won't adventure with them, but You can use them. Your own guard squad, your own think tank. Your own and loyal spies, diplomats, acolits, servants, concubines, messengers, heralds, stewards, traders, explorers, porters, squires, trainers, advisers, cooks, buffoons, assassin's (nah, forget that last one, we are all good here ;) ).
Equipment:
Level 1: 300 GP (including everything)
No magic items
Level 2: 1,000 GP (including everything)
No magic items except up to 3 potions or scrolls
Level 3: 3,000 GP (including everything)
1 magic item maximum, 1,000 GP or less, not counting wands, potions or scrolls
1 wand maximum
3 potions/scroll maximum
OR
Up to 750 GP in weapons
Up to 750 GP in armor
Up to 750 GP in other magic items
Up to 450 GP on disposable items like potions, scrolls, and wands
The remaining money on ordinary gear and coins.
If you are not "fleshing out" the followers to the "equipment" level, we will imagine they have the correct normal equipment for their job, with no magic items, except for 1 cure light wounds potion for level 2's and 3 potions for level 3's (2 cure light wounds + 1 of your choosing of 1,000 GP or less).
Wolfie unfortunately, it would take forever to get improved trip on him. Stupid 13 intelligence requirement.
I wasn't sure what if anything to add from the animal companion table, so mainly I left out the additional natural armor bonus (which would bring natural armor bonus to 6).
So... no more volunteers for final revision?
Trying.. to.... finish......
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Working on a druid (Saurian Shaman) With a Stegosaur's companion, couldn't resist making that build!
Ni'Tir
Female Human (Mwangi) Druid (Saurian Shaman) 7
NG Medium Humanoid (human)
Init +2; Senses Perception +9
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Defense
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AC 12, touch 12, flat-footed 10 (+2 Dex)
hp 63 (7d8+7)
Fort +7, Ref +4, Will +9; +4 vs. spell-like and supernatural abilities of Fey and against effects that target plants
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Druid (Saurian Shaman) Spells Prepared (CL 7):
4 (2/day) Grove of Respite, Flame Strike (DC 18)
3 (3/day) Call Lightning (DC 17), Cure Moderate Wounds, Animal Aspect, Greater
2 (4/day) Flaming Sphere (DC 16), Bull's Strength, Barkskin, Wilderness Soldiers
1 (5/day) Cure Light Wounds, Magic Fang, Entangle (DC 15), Ant Haul (DC 15), Bristle (DC 15)
0 (at will) Mending, Light, Read Magic, Purify Food and Drink (DC 14)
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Statistics
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Str 13, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 12, Wis 18, Cha 10
Base Atk +5; CMB +6; CMD 18
Feats Augment Summoning, Leadership (Base Score 8), Natural Spell, Spell Focus (Conjuration), Superior Summoning
Traits Natural-Born Leader, Rostlander
Skills Climb +10, Fly +8, Handle Animal +10, Heal +8, Knowledge (geography) +11, Knowledge (nature) +11, Perception +9, Ride +8, Spellcraft +11, Survival +11, Swim +10
Languages Common, Druidic, Elven, Polyglot
SQ animal companion link, nature bond abilities (chimalma [shield bearer], stegosaurus), resist nature's lure, saurian wild shape (3/day), saurian's totem transformation (move action) (7 mi, saurian's totemic summons, share spells with companion, spontaneous casting, trackless step, wild empathy, wild shape (1/day), wild shape (animal), woodland stride
Other Gear 150 GP
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Special Abilities
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Animal Companion Link (Ex) You have a link with your Animal Companion.
Augment Summoning Summoned creatures have +4 to Strength and Constitution.
Leadership (Base Score 11 +3 Greatness and Renown) You attract loyal companions and devoted followers.
Natural Spell You can cast spells while in Wild Shape.
Natural-Born Leader Your cohorts, followers, and summoned creatures gain +1 vs. Mind-affecting effects, +1 Leadership score if you have the Leadership feat.
Resist Nature's Lure (Ex) +4 save vs. effects from Fey and effects using plants.
Saurian Wild Shape (3/day) (Su) Shapeshift into a dinosaur or reptile one or more times per day.
Saurian's Totem Transformation (Move Action) (7 minutes/day) (Su) Adopt aspect of the saurian while in normal form.
Saurian's Totemic Summons (Su) Standard action to summon dinosaur/reptiles and grant temp Hp.
Share Spells with Companion (Ex) Can cast spells with a target of "you" on animal companion, as touch spells.
Spell Focus (Conjuration) Spells from one school of magic have +1 to their save DC.
Spontaneous Casting The Druid can convert stored spells into Summon Nature's Ally spells.
Superior Summoning When summoning more than one creature, summon an extra one
Trackless Step (Ex) You do not leave a trail as you move through natural surroundings.
Wild Empathy +7 (Ex) Improve the attitude of an animal, as if using Diplomacy.
Wild Shape (1/day) (Su) Shapeshift into a different creature one or more times per day.
Wild Shape (Beast Shape I: Small - Medium animal) You may use your Wild Shape ability to become an animal.
Woodland Stride (Ex) Move through undergrowth at normal speed.
Chimalma (Shield Bearer)
Stegosaurus
N Large Animal
Init +4; Senses low-light vision, scent; Perception +6
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Defense
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AC 30, touch 13, flat-footed 26 (+4 armor, +4 Dex, -1 size, +13 natural)
hp 60 (+12)
Fort +7, Ref +9, Will +3 (+4 morale bonus vs. Enchantment spells and effects)
Defensive Abilities evasion
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Melee Tail slap (Stegosaurus) +8 (4d6+7/x2)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
Special Attacks trip
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Statistics
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Str 20, Dex 18, Con 14, Int 3, Wis 12, Cha 10
Base Atk +4; CMB +10; CMD 24 (28 vs. Trip)
Feats Armor Proficiency (Light), Improved Natural Attack (Tail slap [Stegosaurus]), Power Attack -2/+4
Tricks Air Walk [Trick], Attack [Trick], Attack [Trick], Attack Any Target [Trick], Combat Riding [Trick], Come [Trick], Defend [Trick], Down [Trick], Guard [Trick], Heel [Trick], Work [Trick]
Skills Acrobatics +8, Climb +9, Fly +2, Perception +6, Stealth +4, Swim +9
Languages
SQ air walk [trick], attack any target [trick], combat riding [trick], devotion +4, work [trick]
Other Gear +1 Leaf armor, You have no money!
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Special Abilities
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Air Walk [Trick] The animal can be ridden through the air when affected by spells.
Attack Any Target [Trick] The animal will attack any creature on command.
Combat Riding [Trick] The animal has been trained to bear a rider into combat.
Devotion +4 (Ex) +4 Morale bonus on Will Saves vs. Enchantments.
Evasion (Ex) No damage on successful reflex save.
Low-Light Vision See twice as far as a human in low light, distinguishing color and detail.
Power Attack -2/+4 You can subtract from your attack roll to add to your damage.
Scent (Ex) Detect opponents within 15+ feet by sense of smell.
Trip (Ex) You can make a trip attempt on a successful attack.
Work [Trick] The animal pulls or pushes a medium or heavy load.
I used Aztecan names for the character creation and tried to pick feats and traits that fit well. It'll be a little longer before it's completely hammered out. :)
Prophet - Driven by her vision's she has searched the world for the a collection of items that would allow her to manipulate the natural world. Whether these items or her visions of a catastrophe are real or not have yet to be seen but she has spent the last few years traveling on the back of Chimalma. Her dutiful and stalwart stegosaurus companion.