Build guidelines!
Ok 25 point buy......
Post the full build as an alias, and then describe to me how unoptimized the character is.
Also we can start at level 2 since that should work fine and give a better idea of the builds...
For the summoner spliting the big E into itty bitty e's, for others with a dump class, and for a wide range of reasons starting level is going to be 2nd.
** spoiler omitted **Please try to refrain from stats under 10, unless race takes you down to an 8....but at least try!
Please stay away from the rich parents trait (it smells like optimization!)
Standard wealth (no blowing it all on one purchase, unless it is an unoptimized purchase).....
"I'm here mr. gm I need to go get my widdle friends and my widdle toys so we can pway! OOOOoooooooo you have a pwetty face mrs. pwincess girl! Can I have it!?!<3"
Tangible Delusions try to narrow it down
Here is a quick outline/build for 2nd level
Oracle of Flame/Fire Bloodline Sorcerer
Gurukk Pyreborn will eventually head to being a mystic theurge.
Not sure if his Bloodline Arcana ability to change the energy type of spells to fire would count for his oracle spells.
Only other change I might shift abilities around a bit.
Gurukk
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Spells picked.
Doing 2nd level wealth or 1st level?
2nd no spending it all in one place
Do I get a free pretty dress too :)
2nd no spending it all in one placeDo I get a free pretty dress too :)
"NO!"
"NO!"2nd no spending it all in one placeDo I get a free pretty dress too :)
But I bet it would make you look even better next to me....
But I bet it would make you look even better next to me...."NO!"2nd no spending it all in one placeDo I get a free pretty dress too :)
"NO!"
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If you're still taking entries for this game. I'd like to posit my character concept.
Half-orc Bard, one man band.
I've been toying around this idea for awhile and would love to play him, but people I normally play with, would although laugh and have fun with the idea would get annoyed in its implementation. Let me know if you still have room.
"Don't make me turn this message board around!"
You'll be sorry!
I picked through gear pretty much, maybe I'll pick a potion or something. Spells chosen. Probably will work on background a little more. Otherwise I think I pretty much have him done.
Had to buy a barbed vest since I couldn't have a pretty dress....though I'm still holding out for the shoes!
** spoiler omitted **2nd no spending it all in one placeDo I get a free pretty dress too :)
OOH a nice big log that will burn a long time! The Fire God provides!
and always attempts to see the good in people.
Me too! Me too! Raises knife.
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Can't choose between human or Halfling, let me know your opinions:
Race: Human
Alignment: N Class: Paladin-1/ Rogue(investigator)-1
Language: Common, Elven.
Deity: Was Imodae
Str: 16 Dex:10 Con:14 Int:13 Wis: 12 Cha: 16
Fort: +4 Ref: +2 Will:+3
AC: 14 (+4 from armored coat), Touch: 10, Flat-Footed: 14
CMB: +4, CMD:14
Racial Abilities: Skilled, Bonus Feat(combat expertise).
Class Abilities:Sneak attack +1d6, Follow up (get to roll twice for gather info.)
Feats:Combat expertise(bonus feat), Improved disarm
Offense
Sword Cane +4 1d6 +3 x2
Fist of Judgement(Brass Knuckle with Imodae symbol on it) +4 1d3 +3 x2
Sling +1 1d4+3 50ft
Skills
Diplomacy: +7
Heal: +5
Knowledge(religion):+5
Ride: +4
Acrobatics: +4
Appraise: +5
Bluff: +7
Disable Device: +4
Perception: +5
Perform(string Instruments): +7
Sleight of hand: +4
Sense Motive: +5
Stealth:+4
Use Magic Device: +7
Name:
Race: Halfling
Alignment: N Class: Paladin-1/ Rogue(investigator)-1
Language: Common, Halfling, Dwarven, Elven
Deity: Was Imodae
Favored Class Paladin
Str:14 Dex:12 Con:14 Int:14 Wis:12 Cha:15
Fort:+5 Ref:+4 Will: +4
AC:16 (+4 armored coat, +1 dex, +1 small size) Touch: 12, Flat-Footed: 14
CMB: +2, CMD: 13
Racial Abilites: Small, Fearless, Halfling luck, Keen Senses, Sure footed,
Class Abilities:Sneak attack +1d6, Follow up (get to roll twice for gather info.)
Feats: Power Attack.
Offense
Sword Cane +4 1d4 +2 x2
Fist of Judgement(Brass Knuckle with Imodae symbol on it) +4 1d2 +2 x2
Sling +3 1d3+2 50ft
Skills
Diplomacy: +6
Heal: +5
Knowledge(religion):+6
Ride: +5
Acrobatics: +7
Appraise: +6
Bluff: +6
Disable Device: +5
Perception: +7
Perform(string Instruments): +6
Sleight of hand: +5
Sense Motive: +6
Stealth:+9
Use Magic Device: +6
Also either of the characters will vote for Gurukk to get a pretty dress or at least the shoes!
Posting to show I'm still very interested and keen.
I am hoping to have a computer to adjust this character with by Monday. Will do my best to be presentable for your game. *Bows*
Yeah, I'm still here. Wondering how UN we are trying to go with the un-optimized.
I was just going for not-optimized, now I'm wondering if I should TRY to build towards the avatar of anti-optimized. Or if it will be too much of a lost cause to have so many anti-optimized, but I would be in the wrong for only being not-optimized.
I have a gunslinger available if your kobold fellow has fallen off.
She is kind of a take on Little Red Riding Hood, but with a gun...a big gun. She's a Halfling with the Child-Like Feat and uses a medium sized gun, maybe blunderbuss or pistol. Medium will be used to reflect a larger caliber, not gun size. No 1990's X-Force stuff here,lol. Gonna be rocking cloak and all. May take a level of rogue or something to make her a bit more devious. Let me know! Thanks.
Edit: Same as above, but Gunslinger 1/ Cavalier 1. Rides her big, bad wolf. Order of the Shield.
"But how will you maintain the same level as every one else?" I hear you ask, easy. I shall add the 'Young' template as well as the 'Giant' template then, at a higher level, I shall 'pay off' the 'Young' template by simply not leveling up like every one else and remove the stat modifiers for the 'Young' template. (^_^)
I hope these ideas meet with you approval. Also, is Xane going to be the 'biggest' of the group...?
Finished most of Sir Respen Bayleef fallen paladin turned Rogue. Just have to do his equipment and his background and he will be all done.
Xane has been seasonally adjusted for this game's fiscal policy (^_~)
Ready for the character to be perused ans commented upon. *Bows*
I can already see her most often used quote will be,
"What for you pick on my little friend?"
The well muscled woman in thick leather armour swaggers up.
Should be ready to go. The only thing is would we start with two traits? I have only chosen one and would have to choose another.
Um, I plead ignorance as to the whole 'Optimized' thing? =)
Xane is just an idea I've had for a while for a 'big' character. =)
female human (young template) rogue, wears no armor, and fights with her feet.
suboptimal because
she is even more fragile than the standard rogue
doesn't do the huge amounts of sneak attack damage
uses unarmed combat which is difficult to enchant
and she took a feat to use a non standard weapon choice.
So we are allowed traits. That's interesting...
Been super busy today should get the character finished tomorrow on schedule.
female human (young template) rogue, wears no armor, and fights with her feet.
suboptimal because
she is even more fragile than the standard rogue
doesn't do the huge amounts of sneak attack damage
uses unarmed combat which is difficult to enchant
and she took a feat to use a non standard weapon choice.
*glares and slowly raises her teddy bear in a menacing fashion*
Please try not to anger our dear Miss Peelyblossom. For our survival hehe
Finished up Respen. His unoptimized options are Fallen paladin(have a class with none of its abilities), also I designed him as an armored paladin thats going into rogue so his stats are little mixed up like a low dex. Also one of his traits doesn't work anymore and take out Armor expert if we are only picking one. Also his favored class is paladin which I can’t level in til my alignment changes. I worked this character like he was suppose to be a paladin all the way through then suddenly gave him a level of rogue So he won't be the best rogue hehe.
I hope he makes the grade, let me know Kenderkin what you think and if I need to change anything.
I have said all along build your unoptimized PC you want to build and then tell me what makes he/she/it unoptimized.
Gurukk is aiming for Mystic Theurge which is unoptimized no matter what you do.
But he is a spontaneous caster in both classes which means he only needs charisma, which seems a bit optimized, yet he needs two extra levels to get his first level of MT at 9th overall level. (Instead of 7th) Which means he is even more behind in spell progression.
He also is an orc which has -2 charisma as a race.
Okay she's done. How is she unoptimized?
She's tiny, defenseless, and tries to scare people while holding a teddy bear and wearing a red dress. Her eidolons are small, she has no weapons, no armor, and not even her full money. She has cross class skills, adn a trait that gives her zero benefit.
Yup, seems unoptimized to me.
Name: Triesta de Leon
Race: Human
Alignment: N Class: Antipaladin 1/Posessed Oracle 1
Language: Common, Abyssal, Celestial
Deity: Rovagug/Sarenrae
Str: 18 Dex: 12 Con: 12 Int: 12 Wis: 12 Cha: 15
Fort: +3 Ref: +1 Will: +5
AC: 18 (+7 from masterwork banded mail, +1 from dex), Touch: 11, Flat-Footed: 14
CMB: +6, CMD: 17
Racial Abilities: Skilled, Bonus Feat(combat expertise).
Class Abilities: Proficient with all melee and simple weapons. Proficient with all armor, and all shields except tower shields.
Oracle Tongues Curse: Can only speak and understand Celestial in combat.
Life Mystery
Two Minds (+2 save vs. enchantment)
Feats: Power Attack, Enforcer
Traits: Bully (+1 Intimidate), Killer (+crit multiplier damage to crits)
Offense
Masterwork Greataxe +6 1d12+6 x3
Spells Known
Guidance (0), Light (0), Resistance (0), Stabilize (0), Bless (1), Cure Light Wounds (1), Divine Favor (1)
Spells per Day
infinite 0th, 4 1st.
Skills
Diplomacy +6
Heal +6
Intimidate +8
Knowledge (Religion) +6
Ride +5
Sense Motive +6
She's unoptimized in several ways. She's a caster who is losing out on a level. She is not getting any of her Antipaladin abilities other than proficiencies. Her best stat is not her primary casting stat, nor one that any of her abilities depend on. Her Enforcer feat is also now useless, because it lets you roll Intimidate for free when damaging someone with nonlethal damage - but Intimidate relies on speaking the same language. And she can only speak Celestial in combat.
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She's unoptimized in several ways. She's a caster who is losing out on a level. She is not getting any of her Antipaladin abilities other than proficiencies. Her best stat is not her primary casting stat, nor one that any of her abilities depend on. Her Enforcer feat is also now useless, because it lets you roll Intimidate for free when damaging someone with nonlethal damage - but Intimidate relies on speaking the same language. And she can only speak Celestial in combat.
Oh no! Don't worry pretty demon lady I'll get the angel out!"
Hey Kenderkin I changed up a few things on Respen if its okay. I still have the unoptimize features that I posted earlier. I changed his stats and background from before. His new unoptimize features are he takes penalties for being middle aged (-1 to str,dex,con.+1 to int, wis, cha.), also he wheres medium armor that slows him down and gives him a -2 to his sneakyness and his awesome dex skills will be +2s hehe. He has a few things that aren't stat related but in his personality that hinder him as well such as he's a drunk, easily distracted, and his trying to cheat his way back into the good graces of the goddess of justice hehe.
Sorry about changing around this close to decision time but I got inspired hehe.