A Gossamer World (Inactive)

Game Master Rednal

Dalaston
Temple of Abadar
Tactical Map


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stats:
HP: 192/200 | AC: 36 (31) / T: 26 / FF: 36 / DR/SR: see stats | Fort: +14*, Ref: +17*, Will: +21* | M. Touch: +22*, R. Touch: +15* | CMB: +16*, CMD: 38* | Init: +4*, Perception: +42**(take 10)
Witchwyrd 6 / Savant +0 / Cryptic 7 // Psion 5 / Force +1 / Metamorph 7 /// Mythic Genius 1

I made Mineire smaller, gonna see about flying into the enemy dragon's mouth. Then i will try to snatch/detach the stone and dimension door out of there.

unless someone thinks that is just super impossible even with out skills, then i might just use a swift to alter my metamorphosis to change my "decrease 2 sizes" to "increase 2 sizes" and start beating the dragon with big ol' fists.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff
Mineire the Gossamer Merchant wrote:

definitely not blowing up my wagon.

1. it is ridiculously expensive, and ridiculously magical
2. it is intelligent! that is murder!
3. it is evacuating the civilians.

No one talked about blowing it up.

The idea was to load up on explosives, get you in there, dismiss the one subplane with the explosives, then get out before they explode...(you AND the wagon, obviously)


Short Version: As long as the dragon's alive, you're probably not going to be able to separate the stone.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

But it's furnace-belly IS large enough to hold all of us so we could technically have a tea party there, then beat it up from the inside? While it helplessly claws at its own innards?
Or is it like 500d20 worth of unholy fire damage to which resistance and immunity don't apply and 4d12 bludgeoning?


Let's just say you probably don't want to get eaten...


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

Team, new plan, lets NOT get eaten by the enemy dragon!

And just when I had worked out Operation Matryoshka...of Sashin eating me, then Sashin getting eaten by the other dragon, and me healing Sashin from the inside while Sashin goes dragonsh*t-insane as interior decorator of dragon innards.


@Barrett: 1, ask questions here for faster responses. 2, you were both quite high and nearer to the temple. Counting diagonals, she's probably ~400 feet away from you.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

@Rednal, just out of curiosity, how's your recruitment of the Legendary Planet AP going?

I was tempted to submit something there, too, but wasn't sure. I took a quick glance but that's hardly giving the same insight you will likely have. How's the amount of quality submissions?


stats:
HP: 192/200 | AC: 36 (31) / T: 26 / FF: 36 / DR/SR: see stats | Fort: +14*, Ref: +17*, Will: +21* | M. Touch: +22*, R. Touch: +15* | CMB: +16*, CMD: 38* | Init: +4*, Perception: +42**(take 10)
Witchwyrd 6 / Savant +0 / Cryptic 7 // Psion 5 / Force +1 / Metamorph 7 /// Mythic Genius 1

ah, gotcha. I had figured that might be the case, but i also figured it to be just as likely that someone would have to ultra-thief the stone from within. like ripping its heart out or something.


@Yin: There are a fair few submissions so far that look good. ^^ I'm trying to encourage people to do their best here and really put a lot of thought into their characters - I find that makes for better roleplay. Of course, there's still more than two weeks to go, so there's plenty of time to create and polish a submission if you'd like to join in.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

Will try. Thing is, I'll be gone next weekend, and then around 26-30th...family stuff. So not sure if I'll have enough time to finalize things before deadlines runs out.

But I'll definitely consider it ^_^
Anything really lacking yet in terms of roles? I haven't started yet so I'm flexible if you are short on something and want more options to pick from there...(obviously the side effect would be better chances than a more crowded combo ;) )


Just try to pick two separate roles you'd like to play. ^^ I encourage diverse builds, not super-high-gestalt-optimization.


How far is Oneidros from the big dragon?


Let's say 50 feet - you WERE trying to stay out of range for its breath attack, after all.


Female Changeling Intrigue Oracle 3 (covetous curse)

Just waiting on Oneidros, I believe.


Female Changeling Intrigue Oracle 3 (covetous curse)

Did any of my attacks hit? Or did her DR 4000/- negate everything? xD

More seriously, my natural weapons are treated as magic, via my amulet.

@team- this is a problem. Ideas? I'm thinking of trying my Maddening Oubilette, if only because it'd be fantastic if it worked. It's a will save DC 24, by the way. There's always a chance.


Oh, that wasn't DR. She just has a high AC (helped, in part, by some defensive magic she's got up - if any of you are particularly good at Dispel Magic, that might bring your foe into a more hittable range - you can also see that she's wearing a few items, and if you can find some way to break or negate those, that might also help).


I've got one each of greater and normal dispel


Female Changeling Intrigue Oracle 3 (covetous curse)

Hey, Yin, is there a way you could test invisibility, while setting yourself up for a Dispel Magic, Greater or two?
That'd be fantastic

Edit: @Barrett, I know normal Dispel, but not sure how useful it'll be. If you wanna join in on the Dispel party, we'll see how that goes.


Well I'm like a million feet away, I can move and ready in case it gets close to me.


Battle Imp [11 CR] Brawler 2 | Harbinger 13, Champion 1 | HP: 315/315 | AC 40 / T 21 / FF 31 (+4 v AoO fr move, +2 if moved 10’) DR10/cold iron, immune: fire | F 21, R 23 (+2 if moved 10’ ), W 22 | CMB +21 CMD 31 | Init +10, Per: +30

Rednal, a few notes and Qs:
- My AC is currently 45 since I'm in elemental body II (air elem form). given that I assume just one of the attacks hit?
- Did the dragon have a way to bypass my mirror images? If not, do you want to roll to see if the one that hit hit me or one of my 3 images? Actually, since two earlier swipes missed by < 5, there would've only been 1 extra image left when it hit, so that's 50/50 to hit me.
- Do we get AoOs when it moves away from us?
- "nobody had bothered to study the dragon's defenses"...well, I did make a 36 Know (arcana) roll.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

@Oneidros, I could well imagine she's using true sight.
And if she has the countless souls at her disposal, possibly bypassing stuff to hit touch AC.

no idea about the others.


@Oneidros: You did not note these effects in your post or your stat bar, which is what I'm checking when resolving things. "I have X powers cast such-and-such time ago that I will not mention" is not very helpful - and having neither the stat bar nor additional info in the post be accurate defeats the purpose of having them in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, if it's not in your post, then it doesn't get counted. (This is otherwise known as motivation for everyone to make it very, very easy for me to keep track of things and resolve stuff properly. ^^ And it helps you remember and not forget what you've got up, too - always nice.)

Also, you rolled for knowledge about Horranath (as in 'what are the defenses and saves of dragons?') and didn't mention identifying spells. So there was no response on that, just for basic knowledge about the species.

And yes, you do get AoO's when she moves away. Large dragons are not known for their acrobatic talent.


Female Changeling Intrigue Oracle 3 (covetous curse)

Hey! I resent that! I'm actually above average Acrobatics for my size.

Also, I'm waiting on everyone with an actual chance to Dispel stuff to go before I take my turn.
What gets dispelled, if anything, matters to my turn.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

@Rednal, I think I did good on my dispel. If I can't get through with that, I have basically no hope of ever dispelling something from that opponent.

If needed, I would use a Mythic Point to use my Umbral Power and boost the unravelling of magic.(since we never defined our Gossamer Powers, I have no idea how to handle this so leaving it up to you...just stating it here).


Incidentally, I had an idea last night... something to do in case the dragon is a bit too much for you. XD I'm guessing you'd all like to see the results of that dispel before your own actions...?


Female Changeling Intrigue Oracle 3 (covetous curse)

Yes, that'd be ideal.

Yin knows what spells she dispels, so let's get some spell names first.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

I know what I dispel? Cool!


She does? Cool!

...Out of curiosity, do you have any other ways of boosting your checks versus spell resistance, Yin? You don't know exactly how strong the dragon's defenses are, so on general principle, it's probably best to avoid holding back.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

Nope, I have the Roll Twice. We are only level 13, or Level 12 if dual-side-template applied like in my case.

I had no Feats(since neither class gets bonus Feats) to pick up the +2/4 vs Spell Resistance.
(Needed 4 Feats+Mythic Feat for the fluff(get Skill Focus Shadow Bloodline, Shadow Bloodline Heritage, Shadow Bloodline Mythic Heritage, Improved Familiar, Divine Protection)...which left 2 Feats, one of which is Persistent Spell and one of which I just realized I never locked in during redesign -_-)

But it's why I mentioned I would use a Mythic Point to boost, if applicable.
I just did not know if that would still only be a normal "surge" considering taking apart patterns and structure like that of spells is my Gossamer flavor-path/fate, so brought it up in discussion.


Female Changeling Intrigue Oracle 3 (covetous curse)

Well, the 1d6 surge can apply to any d20, so. That applies.
Not sure Rednal is using the super-Gossamer-powers, so I don't know.


Mythic Surge can apply to any d20 roll. Though, of course, there are limits - you can only use it once a turn, you might want to save that power for other abilities, et cetera.

(Incidentally, should it every become relevant, I'm one of the "Surge changes the final result, not the initial result" people. So a surge can't turn a natural 1 on an attack roll into a success - but it can turn a narrow failure into a success.)

That said, I believe GDM dispels in order from strongest, and Yin would only get to choose when there are two of the same level... how many spell levels are you blasting, again?


Female Changeling Intrigue Oracle 3 (covetous curse)

It's not by level, it's by spell. You start at the highest level, and then go down.

As her spells are, presumably, all at the same caster level, none of them would be dispelled.

The only thing that would mater is if her spell like abilities are at a higher caster level, which they probably are.

So you'd check the dispel roll against the highest caster level spell, and if her roll beats the DC of 11 + caster level, then it's dispelled.

If it doesn't, then you'd proceed down to her actual spells known, starting with the highest level of spell.

Of note, Dispel Magic and its Greater version do not allow Spell Resistance. No check needed.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

I am blasting 3 different spells, as per "Targeted Dispel: This functions as a targeted dispel magic, but it can dispel one spell for every four caster levels you possess, starting with the highest level spells and proceeding to lower level spells."

So the 3 highest-caster-level effects I can get at, would be toasted.

Thing is, if I can't affect anything, thats also something we learned. Because even if someone focused on spell resistance, I doubt others will have much more luck. Because I think I'm the only one to pick up Eldritch Breach, so even if someone has full caster level 13+4(Greater Spell Penetration), he could roll crappy, and would need a 13+ to even beat my result, so around a 33% or lower(depending on by how much I would have failed) chance to affect her per spell.

In that case we can still hope it fails a save against Feeblemind(it's obviously an Arcane Caster so -4 on the save) ^_^


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff
Sashin wrote:
Of note, Dispel Magic and its Greater version do not allow Spell Resistance. No check needed.

Hm, I should go take a nap. I operated under the premise that Dispel Magic had to go up against SR but yeah, that does not really make sense.

I think it's because most Caster Level Checks made, I automatically think about SR checks.
But maybe she has some kind of super-mythic SR that counters Dispel Magic :)


I feel like I -could- interpret that as spell level, not caster level, but... XD

-Fire Shield (Cold)
-Haste
-Protection from Energy (Cold)
-Resist Energy (Cold)
-Resist Energy (Elec)
-Shield

...Which reminds me, Oneidros took 1d6 + 9 Cold Damage for each attack that hit...

Also, I personally recommend trying to dispel the Shield. o wo/


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

Ahem, yep, it is spell level. It's just it affects those things with highest Caster Level first(as per targeted Dispel). Then if goes by Spell Level and goes for highest first.(as per Greater Dispel)

So if it had a Caster Level 19 Mage Armor Spell and a Caster Level 15 Fly Spell, it would go for Mage Armor first.

If everything is the same Caster Level, it goes by Spell Level, I think.

So I think I don't get to pick the Shield, I'm afraid.


Nn, yeah. Fire Shield, PFE, and Haste would be the highest-level spells, I believe.

...Try again next round?


Female Changeling Intrigue Oracle 3 (covetous curse)

Her caster level check was a 31, which means she can dispel spells with caster levels up to and including CL 20.
So, those three are gone.
You don't have to tell her what her CL is, but she just lost those three spells, which is fantastic.

Someone else want to try, or just hit away?

I have normal Dispel, I could try

Also, if we can get that Resist Energy (Cold) down, and someone has cold damaging spells, go to town.
I didn't even think about cold vulnerability.


Don't have cold spells and I'm not at the range to be doing anything. I have readied my own Dispel if she gets close enough.


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

well, in meta-knowledge, GM has given away the CL in discussion. But won't change anything about my actions. I just feel moderately confident I could dispel more next turn which would have been the plan unless another option presents itself, or it decides to come after me.(In which case i'll flip a coin between Feeblemind and Ray of Exhaustion)
(=>Oh, and if it full attacks me, I will feign death after the second "hit" it scores...it needs to physically interact with me to even get a check to realize I'm not really dead...so unless it's in a frenzy of tearing up enemies rather than refocusing...also, I think I'm a pretty weird knowledge-check so it may now know if I have a soul, in case its waiting for something to gobble up)

@Barrett, just out of curiosity, is your Control Winds still on? Just asking because of the fire in the temple and possibly elsewhere...doubt we want the city to burn down.


Battle Imp [11 CR] Brawler 2 | Harbinger 13, Champion 1 | HP: 315/315 | AC 40 / T 21 / FF 31 (+4 v AoO fr move, +2 if moved 10’) DR10/cold iron, immune: fire | F 21, R 23 (+2 if moved 10’ ), W 22 | CMB +21 CMD 31 | Init +10, Per: +30
GM Rednal wrote:

@Oneidros: You did not note these effects in your post or your stat bar, which is what I'm checking when resolving things. "I have X powers cast such-and-such time ago that I will not mention" is not very helpful - and having neither the stat bar nor additional info in the post be accurate defeats the purpose of having them in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, if it's not in your post, then it doesn't get counted. (This is otherwise known as motivation for everyone to make it very, very easy for me to keep track of things and resolve stuff properly. ^^ And it helps you remember and not forget what you've got up, too - always nice.)

Hmmmm, yeah, I often post a status spoiler like the one in this post

Does that work well enough for you? It's a lot more than can be fit into the stat bar...and I find frequently editing those a pain.

I certainly respect wanting to have things in the way that makes the (significant) work of DMing easier on you...though at this point I'm nearing just saying maybe Oneidros should get eaten since work & family commitments have exploded so much for me.


This is basically the last fight of the campaign - if you can be here to see it through, I want you to, even if it's just taking a few minutes before bed to post. ^^

And status spoilers do help - immensely.


Battle Imp [11 CR] Brawler 2 | Harbinger 13, Champion 1 | HP: 315/315 | AC 40 / T 21 / FF 31 (+4 v AoO fr move, +2 if moved 10’) DR10/cold iron, immune: fire | F 21, R 23 (+2 if moved 10’ ), W 22 | CMB +21 CMD 31 | Init +10, Per: +30

Cool, I'll see it through, and I'll make sure to be more consistent with my status spoiler.

I like to keep my commitments whenever I can, and I'm curious to see how the dragon eats us all this all turns out.

EDIT

BTW, you mentioned that Oneidros took 1d6+9 cold damage / each time he's hit so far...but I don't think you ever told me how many of my swings connected.


Three of your attacks connected. Fire Shield was probably dispelled, so there shouldn't be any more of that damage unless it's cast again. ^^


Ongoing effects:
Clinically insane. Mind twisted and bent, not broken(at least not literally), x/y Mythic Power
Sorcerer(Dreamspun)20 /Oracle(Dark Tapestry)20 / Archmage/Hierophant 10 | Deity of Shinyness and Stuff

@Oneidros, you may want to state how you ready multiple things...because otherwise you would need to delay until after the dragon which is kind of pointless in a "us-you-us-you-us-you battle"...

But if you regularily ready, you can only ready a single thing to do(+5-foot step). You planned a move and a standard so to let them resolve I think it may be useful to include how you do that.

(From Rednal's style up to now, if we fail to show, it will fail to happen)
(on another note@Rednal, that is not meant as criticism, I can work with that quite well and find it understandable. I just feel I should remind him before we go to resolve and find out).


One of these days, I'm just going to make a universal guide for all of my games to make it easier on all of us. *Nods sagely* And yeah, the more you explain what you're doing, the better.


Battle Imp [11 CR] Brawler 2 | Harbinger 13, Champion 1 | HP: 315/315 | AC 40 / T 21 / FF 31 (+4 v AoO fr move, +2 if moved 10’) DR10/cold iron, immune: fire | F 21, R 23 (+2 if moved 10’ ), W 22 | CMB +21 CMD 31 | Init +10, Per: +30

AHhh, my bad. I know you can't ready a full but I thought you could ready a move and a standard. Yin, thanks for catching that!

Give that, please change my readied action to if/when the dragon comes within 60' (55' of Tenebrous Reach +5' step)


stats:
HP: 192/200 | AC: 36 (31) / T: 26 / FF: 36 / DR/SR: see stats | Fort: +14*, Ref: +17*, Will: +21* | M. Touch: +22*, R. Touch: +15* | CMB: +16*, CMD: 38* | Init: +4*, Perception: +42**(take 10)
Witchwyrd 6 / Savant +0 / Cryptic 7 // Psion 5 / Force +1 / Metamorph 7 /// Mythic Genius 1

yeah, sadly it costs a feat to even ready a Charge attack


Let's see... we waiting on anyone else?

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