Actually no because you don't have both
Grit, luck, and panache represent three different means by which heroes can gain access to the same heroic pool, using it to accomplish fantastic feats. For characters with a mix of grit, luck, and panache, they pool the resources together into a combined pool. (Those who use panache and luck gain twice their Charisma bonus in their pool.) For feats, magic items, and other effects, a panache user can spend and gain luck points in place of grit or panache points, and vice versa.
while the POOL resource is combined the class abilities are not, for example if you take an archtype that say you no longer gain panache from crit only from killing (i think the one focused on rapiers does the opposite) you would still gain grit from criting.
the fact you pool it together doesn't give you less.
the fact luck pool (which i don't know how you even get) and panache pool gives double the cha bonus instead of only once show it is stacking the class abilities.
but on an other note.. don't you need to crit with a specific weapon? grit a black-powder weapon and panache a light or one handed piercing melee weapon? how do you get both?
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i guess you can with a light\one handed gun, pistol-whip deed and a feat to change the damage to piercing (or count it as such for panache)
but on an other note.. don't you need to crit with a specific weapon? grit a black-powder weapon and panache a light or one handed piercing melee weapon? how do you get both?
Critical Hit with a Firearm: Each time the gunslinger confirms a critical hit while in the heat of combat, she regains 1 grit point. Confirming a critical hit on a helpless or unaware creature or on a creature that has fewer Hit Dice than half the gunslinger’s character level does not restore grit.
Killing Blow with a Firearm: When the gunslinger reduces a creature to 0 or fewer hit points while in the heat of combat, she regains 1 grit point. Destroying an unattended object, reducing a helpless or unaware creature to 0 or fewer hit points, or reducing a creature that has fewer Hit Dice than half the gunslinger’s character level to 0 or fewer hit points does not restore any grit.
Critical Hit with a Light or One-Handed Piercing Melee Weapon: Each time the swashbuckler confirms a critical hit , she regains 1 panache point. Confirming a critical hit on a helpless or unaware creature or a creature that has fewer Hit Dice than half the swashbuckler’s character level doesn’t restore panache.
Killing Blow with a Light or One-Handed Piercing Melee Weapon: When the swashbuckler reduces a creature to 0 or fewer hit points attack while in combat, she regains 1 panache point. Destroying an unattended object, reducing a helpless or unaware creature to 0 or fewer hit points, or reducing a creature that has fewer Hit Dice than half the swashbuckler’s character level to 0 or fewer hit points doesn’t restore any panache.
Grit requires a firearm.
Panache requires a melee weapon.There are no melee firearms.
Using the pistol whip deed does not make the firearm a melee weapon, so it cannot work for pool double dipping.
/cevah
Using the pistol whip deed does make the firearm a melee weapon
"Pistol-Whip (Ex) : At 3rd level, the gunslinger can make a surprise melee attack with the butt or handle of her firearm as a standard action.When she does, she is considered to be proficient with the firearm as a melee weapon and gains a bonus on the attack and damage rolls equal to the enhancement bonus of the firearm " (added that last part to show it's not like improvising attack with a weapon, since then you don't get the weapon bonus)
for that specific attack the firearm is a melee weapon.
it say a critical hit with a fire arm, it does not say anything about the NEED to use a shot.
if you critical hit while pistol whipping, you technically critical hit WITH a fire arm. and if you have a feat that make it a piercing damage (or count as such) then you critically hit with a melee piercing weapon while at the same time critically hit with a fire arm.
basically is fall down to the question is a 'firearm attack' the same thing as an 'attack with a firearm'. i would say it is, since you know... English and such...
Picaroon gives panache for killing with a firearm, so there could be overlap there.
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the fact you pool it together doesn't give you less.
the fact luck pool (which i don't know how you even get) and panache pool gives double the cha bonus instead of only once show it is stacking the class abilities.
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You get a luck pool by taking the sleuth investigator archetype. Having luck and panache does NOT give you points equal to double your CHA modifier. They do not stack.
Grit, Luck, and Panache Grit, luck, and panache represent three different means by which heroes can gain access to the same heroic pool, using it to accomplish fantastic feats. For characters with a mix of grit, luck, and panache, they pool the three resources together into a combined pool. (Those who use panache and luck do not gain twice their Charisma bonuses in their pools.) For feats, magic items, and other effects, a panache user can spend and gain luck points in place of grit points or panache points, and vice versa. A luck user does not count as a grit or panache user for the purpose of meeting feat prerequisites.
It was errata'd. You do not get double.
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—In the Sleuth archetype’s Make It Count deed, change all three instances of “inspired strike” in the first sentence to “studied strike”. In the Spiritualist’s Strong Life ability, at the very beginning, add “At 2nd level,”. In the sidebar, in the parenthetical third sentence, add “do not” before “gain twice”.
Picaroon gives panache for killing with a firearm, so there could be overlap there.
I know I'm late to the party here, but would this work? A Gunslinger with 1 level of Picaroon would have WIS + CHA to their Grit/Pinache pool (that part's RAW), but would they get a Grit and Pinache for a killing blow or critical hit with a 1-handed Firearm?
(I'm fairly sure the RAI is "no", but this is the rules forum, so let's look at RAW - how do people interpret this?)