Weapon Focus: Weapon Size Dependent?


Rules Questions


Hi, everyone.

I'm looking at the pre-generated 7th level barbarian for Pathfinder Society and I noticed something that seems very specific.

She has Weapon Focus (Large bastard sword).

Do characters that take the weapon focus feat have to specify the size of the weapon that it applies to if the weapon size doesn't match the character's size?

For instance, if this barbarian picked up a medium sized bastard sword, would she not be able to apply her weapon focus feat to it?

Thank you.


Sounds like a typo. Size is irrelevant with regard to Weapon Focus. "Large" is not a weapon type.


they might have put it in there to let people know for sure that she's good to go with her large one. But blahpers is correct, weapon focus is just for the weapon and works for all sizes.


Thank you, both.

Much appreciated.

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Chess Pwn wrote:
they might have put it in there to let people know for sure that she's good to go with her large one. But blahpers is correct, weapon focus is just for the weapon and works for all sizes.

+1

I’m also of the mind it was added to the pregen sheet to cut off “that doesn’t count as they have a large one” responses.


OK. Some more questions about Amiri's large bastard sword.

Pathfinder Core Rulebook wrote:


Weapon Size: Every weapon has a size category. This designation indicates the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed.

A weapon's size category isn't the same as its size as an object. Instead, a weapon's size category is keyed to the size of the intended wielder. In general, a light weapon is an object two size categories smaller than the wielder, a one-handed weapon is an object one size category smaller than the wielder, and a two-handed weapon is an object of the same size category as the wielder.

Inappropriately Sized Weapons: A creature can't make optimum use of a weapon that isn't properly sized for it. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on attack rolls for each size category of difference between the size of its intended wielder and the size of its actual wielder. If the creature isn't proficient with the weapon, a –4 nonproficiency penalty also applies.

The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon (whether the weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or two-handed weapon for a particular wielder) is altered by one step for each size category of difference between the wielder's size and the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed. For example, a Small creature would wield a Medium one-handed weapon as a two-handed weapon. If a weapon's designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at all.

Amiri has the Exotic Weapon Proficiency with the bastard sword. Does this mean that she's able to wield it in two hands, but not one-handed, since the weapon's designation without the feat would be changed beyond two-handed?


A bastard sword is a one handed weapon. It is always one handed when size appropriate. The fact that without ex wpn prof you can't wield it one handed does not make it a two handed weapon.

A large bastard sword is a two handed weapon.


Thanks, dragonhunterrq.

So, if she'd found a large greatsword sword (two-handed), instead, would it have been unwieldable for her?


Correct, oversized two-handed weapons can never be wielded (except by 3rd level Titan Maulers).


Thank you.

Much appreciated.

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