I'm a druid trying to increase my AC's size from Large to Huge? Would a dire collar work while a wizard casted permanancy on it? If not what other choices are there without dipping into other classes.
I'm a druid trying to increase my AC's size from Large to Huge? Would a dire collar work while a wizard casted permanancy on it?
No. Permanency works on spells, not magic items. There is no spell/effect that will make a magic item "permanent" (always on).
If not what other choices are there without dipping into other classes.
Trying to convince your GM that permanency should work on animal growth on the grounds that it works on enlarge person may be your best bet. I wouldn't allow it, though, as animal growth is a CRB spell so it would have been listed in permanency to begin with if the devs thought it was a good idea.
I doubt there's a RAW option that will do what you want. Maybe some sketchy 3pp?
you can however make an item with permanent animal growth on it - it'd be expensive though - Spell level x caster level x 2,000 gp x 2 for min/lvl = 5x9x2000x2=180k gp - so last few lvls up to 20 you'll be able to get that
you can however make an item with permanent animal growth on it - it'd be expensive though - Spell level x caster level x 2,000 gp x 2 for min/lvl = 5x9x2000x2=180k gp - so last few lvls up to 20 you'll be able to get that
You can make that if the GM allows it, and if they do the price is very much subject to their discretion (i.e. may be even higher). The pricing rules dharkus is citing are only guidelines.
Noting that there aren't even any published items that give always-on enlarge person, I as a GM would be unwilling to allow always-on animal growth.
That said, if you do manage to make your A/C permanently Huge, make sure to wrap a Belt of the Weasel around that sucker's waist to give it the compression special ability so it can go indoors.
Very good points, seems like its unlikely
If you are a goliath druid, you can cast enlarge person on your companion. Then you get it permanent through permanency.
Thus in fact will work! Thank you.
Mammoth Rider prestige class will also do it.
Would the Beastrider Cavalier also work. I seem to recall a size increase with your mount with that. :-)
A friend of mine playing his ranger went Mammoth Rider just get a Huge animal companion. Ranger/Mammoth Rider actually go together very well. I'm not sure if a Druid would have the same synergy.
Purchasing a wish or a miracle might do it for cheaper, but that is open to argument. I assume you want to change your Tyrranosaur AC, Trex, to an actual Tyrranosaurus Rex.
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I wonder if a Polymorph Any Object spell, Tyrranosaur to Tyrranosaurus Rex would work?
Purchasing a wish or a miracle might do it for cheaper, but that is open to argument. I assume you want to change your Tyrranosaur AC, Trex, to an actual Tyrranosaurus Rex.
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I wonder if a Polymorph Any Object spell, Tyrranosaur to Tyrranosaurus Rex would work?
Ya would like to get him permenantly up to Huge status, then cast animal growth on him occasionally to get him up to gargantuan. Slap combat reflexes on him with combat patrol and that reach should be sufficient. Or yes in the case of the polymporh any object spell permenantly bring him to Gargantuan size.
Ya would like to get him permenantly up to Huge status, then cast animal growth on him occasionally to get him up to gargantuan. Slap combat reflexes on him with combat patrol and that reach should be sufficient.Purchasing a wish or a miracle might do it for cheaper, but that is open to argument. I assume you want to change your Tyrranosaur AC, Trex, to an actual Tyrranosaurus Rex.
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I wonder if a Polymorph Any Object spell, Tyrranosaur to Tyrranosaurus Rex would work?
Hmm yes does anyone know if this is possible?
If I could turn him into a real trex through the Polymporh any Object spell that would be great
The polymorph approach would block Animal Growth, so that approach is a bust then.
Just be aware that dispel magic can make your expensive permanent spells, including polymorph any object, go poof.
Hmm yes does anyone know if this is possible?Ya would like to get him permenantly up to Huge status, then cast animal growth on him occasionally to get him up to gargantuan. Slap combat reflexes on him with combat patrol and that reach should be sufficient.Purchasing a wish or a miracle might do it for cheaper, but that is open to argument. I assume you want to change your Tyrranosaur AC, Trex, to an actual Tyrranosaurus Rex.
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I wonder if a Polymorph Any Object spell, Tyrranosaur to Tyrranosaurus Rex would work?
A single level in the Mammoth Rider prestige class increases your companion's size to Huge. Just one level is all you need.
Just be aware that dispel magic can make your expensive permanent spells, including polymorph any object, go poof.
Any idea of the price of getting this spell cast on my AC?
A single level in the Mammoth Rider prestige class increases your companion's size to Huge. Just one level is all you need.Hmm yes does anyone know if this is possible?Ya would like to get him permenantly up to Huge status, then cast animal growth on him occasionally to get him up to gargantuan. Slap combat reflexes on him with combat patrol and that reach should be sufficient.Purchasing a wish or a miracle might do it for cheaper, but that is open to argument. I assume you want to change your Tyrranosaur AC, Trex, to an actual Tyrranosaurus Rex.
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I wonder if a Polymorph Any Object spell, Tyrranosaur to Tyrranosaurus Rex would work?
Hmm what do I lose by doing this? What are the cons?
Just be aware that dispel magic can make your expensive permanent spells, including polymorph any object, go poof.Any idea of the price of getting this spell cast on my AC?
Actually it isn't so bad if you're at a decent level; what are you? For some reason I thought polymorph any object had an expensive material component, but it doesn't.
For polymorph any object, spell level * caster level * 25 = 3000 gp for a scroll of it, or 1200 gp if you can find a 15th-level caster to do it for you directly. Permanency on enlarge person is 5*9*25 + 2500 gp diamond dust = 3625 gp for a scroll of permanency (2950 if you get a 9th-level caster to do it directly) plus enlarge person for 25 gp (scroll) or 225 (directly from that 9th-level caster---both spells must be cast by the same person).
Fuzzy, the polymorph effect blocks a follow on enlarge spell.
Just be aware that dispel magic can make your expensive permanent spells, including polymorph any object, go poof.Any idea of the price of getting this spell cast on my AC?Actually it isn't so bad if you're at a decent level; what are you? For some reason I thought polymorph any object had an expensive material component, but it doesn't.
For polymorph any object, spell level * caster level * 25 = 3000 gp for a scroll of it, or 1200 gp if you can find a 15th-level caster to do it for you directly. Permanency on enlarge person is 5*9*25 + 2500 gp diamond dust = 3625 gp for a scroll of permanency (2950 if you get a 9th-level caster to do it directly) plus enlarge person for 25 gp (scroll) or 225 (directly from that 9th-level caster---both spells must be cast by the same person).
Level 7 currently but it seems like if I can get the gold I can get him to gargantuan then and become a real Rex. If he becomes a real gargantuan sized Rex do his stats or anything change? Does his damage become the same as a real Rex at 4D6 + Str mod. Would I use my own Rex stats or the real beastiary Rex's?
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Level 7 currently but it seems like if I can get the gold I can get him to gargantuan then and become a real Rex. If he becomes a real gargantuan sized Rex do his stats or anything change? Does his damage become the same as a real Rex at 4D6 + Str mod. Would I use my own Rex stats or the real beastiary Rex's?Just be aware that dispel magic can make your expensive permanent spells, including polymorph any object, go poof.Any idea of the price of getting this spell cast on my AC?Actually it isn't so bad if you're at a decent level; what are you? For some reason I thought polymorph any object had an expensive material component, but it doesn't.
For polymorph any object, spell level * caster level * 25 = 3000 gp for a scroll of it, or 1200 gp if you can find a 15th-level caster to do it for you directly. Permanency on enlarge person is 5*9*25 + 2500 gp diamond dust = 3625 gp for a scroll of permanency (2950 if you get a 9th-level caster to do it directly) plus enlarge person for 25 gp (scroll) or 225 (directly from that 9th-level caster---both spells must be cast by the same person).
If you are casting the spells to enlarge him, then you use your Rex's stats +size modifiers. Polymorph would use the beastiary.
So I would just keep the same Rex With the same ability scores and feats but he would be Gargantuan size with the additional reach. Any strength bonus or anything come with that? Or natural armor bonus or anything?
Fuzzy, the polymorph effect blocks a follow on enlarge spell.
Yes, I know. I was addressing his two best options, not a single (nonexistent) mega-option. I realize now my text could be read either way, sorry.
So I would just keep the same Rex With the same ability scores and feats but he would be Gargantuan size with the additional reach. Any strength bonus or anything come with that? Or natural armor bonus or anything?
As with any polymorph effect, you would use the polymorph rules as outlined in the Magic chapter of the Core Rulebook, as well as the rules for the specific polymorph spell you are using.