Help with Warpriest Spell Storing please ?

[Rumblethorn]

My main question is, is casting a spell into a spell storing weapon (created by the Sacred weapon special weapon ability enhancement) of a neutral war priest a standard action or is it an immediate action much like the magus' spell combat with spell strike combo ? An explanation below...

Ok, so I am building a dual wielding war priest/fighter gestalt cross and I noticed that if I take a neutral war priest I can enhance a +1 weapon with spell storing as apart of the sacred weapon ability. This sacred weapon ability itself adds another +1 enhancement to the already +1 blade so I can trade the +1 enhancement in for the spell storing special ability at a +1 cost. The spell storing special weapon ability description from Pazio states that I can store any (up to 3rd level single target) spell with a standard action cast time into the weapon and then the spell will leave the weapon as a free action on weapon hit. The question is if it suggests it leaves on hit can I attack that round or did casting the spell into the weapon take a standard action or is it like the magus spell combat and casting the spell into the weapon still lets me make an attack ?

Now, I know most people will say if it states that it must be a standard action spell then casting the spell into the blade would be a separate standard action, BUT, That doesn't make sense the special weapon ability only lasts for one round per level PER DAY and they DO NOT HAVE TO BE CONSECTUTIVE therefore it's a single round use per cast of the sacred weapon spell storing special ability and that means even if I use sacred weapon to enhance the weapon with spell storing that spell storing only lasts one round per day per level. So therefore, why would they make storing a spell a standard action if you couldn't use it that round and the next round the spell storing goes away anyways? Does this therefore suggest that casting the spell into the weapon is an immediate action like the Magus spell combat or do I have to swift cast sacred weapon again the next round just to keep spell storing active which really makes no sense.

So recap, as a lvl 4 war priest with a +1 weapon can I, as a swift action, use my sacred weapon ability that creates a +1 enhancement then evoke spell storing on the weapon (at a +1 cost)and cast a spell into the weapon immediately; then, still attack with the weapon same round? The description does say the spell leaves as a free action (it's a special condition of this ability above normal rule, this is much like the spell STRIKE part for the magus) on hit so I'm not worried about that part just the part of how long it takes to actually store the spell and can I attack same round. (make sure you read the apart about the ability only lasting one round per use above).

Thanks,
Game on!
Rumblethorn.

[avr]

Looks like a trap option in most cases. No, there's nothing saying that enhancing a weapon with sacred weapon (spell storing) lets you cast a spell into the weapon as the same action.

Just because an option is bad does not mean that it doesn't work in the obvious way. The obvious way is I'm afraid that you'll need to spend a separate action to cast a spell into the weapon unless your GM house rules otherwise.

[Majuba]

Agreed - nothing about "creating" a spell storing weapon lets you cast a spell into it for free, or immediate, or anything other than a standard action.

In a home game, you might ask the GM about letting you active Sacred Weapon, store a spell, and then have it still be there when you active again. But that's well beyond table variation.

[The Steel Refrain]

I might have thought this should be in the Rules forum.

I think you know the answer, though. Does it say anything about it altering the usual casting time for putting a spell into the weapon with the Spell Storing property? No? Then it doesn't.

I understand your argument, but it's just not how Pathfinder rules work. And it isn't that the ability is totally useless. You can still activate it on one turn, cast into it, then use it on the next turn (or even on an AOO).

[Owen K. C. Stephens]

I actually assume the main use is for the warpriest to create a spell storing item, having his friend the wizard cast something useful into it, and then the warpriest charges into battle.

[AdAstraGames]

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:

I actually assume the main use is for the warpriest to create a spell storing item, having his friend the wizard cast something useful into it, and then the warpriest charges into battle.

So, round 1, Warpriest uses this ability as a swift action. Then delays until the Wizard goes, wizard casts a spell in combat into the weapon, then Warpriest moves and attacks.

So this ties up a swift action, TWO character's standard actions in an early combat round. And possibly a move action on the part of the Wizard.

As opposed to turning on Vicious or Ghost Touch with a single swift action prior to 5' step and full attack.

I would *very quickly* houserule this to some other +1 enhancement, because as designed, spell storing seems nearly useless.

[Melkiador]

I’d maybe rule that the weapon can hold a spell from activation to activation. So during downtime,the warpriest can activate the ability and have a spell put in it. Then later, the warpriest can activate the ability again and the spell will still be there.

What would happen to a spell storing weapon that enters an anti-magic area? Would it lose a contained spell when it came out? This seems like about the same thing.