Hello,
Suppose a Horned Demon causes a cohort in my hand to be put into a location deck:
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Before you act, succeed at a Wisdom 12 check; otherwise, shuffle a random card from your hand into your location and the difficulty to defeat is increased by 6.
What happens when somebody encounters the cohort while exploring?
I know that loot cards are automatically acquired in the rare case they are encountered in a location deck.
If a loot card ends up in a location deck, you automatically acquire it when you encounter it.
Is the same thing true for cohort cards?
Ok this a card that can cause a cohort to be banished.
Ouch
What happens when somebody encounters the cohort while exploring?
Very good question! Mike? Vic?
I would say the answer is "Probably should be." We'll take a look at the rules and get back to you.
Well in the spirit of storytelling, cohorts are real big friends that are ready to die for the party helping it in its quest. So would make sense that they join your hand without hesitation (vs an ally that you may have to convince, seduce, intimidate, train...).
Actually that would allow for some nice new scenarios where indeed you shuffle a cohort in a location deck (and as Andrew very well pointed at, would put you vs interestning choices when encountering an henchman, for example).
Of all the cohorts only donahan would truly be at risk. Leryn maybe if played daftly. Interesting mechanic though ... Nice twists being introduced... Else path4 onwards starts to get too easy. Good job paizo!
Before checking the box to allow me to also grab animals when low on health I purposely left Leryn in my hand a few times to discard to damage so I could grab her back for free.
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Of all the cohorts only donahan would truly be at risk. Leryn maybe if played daftly. Interesting mechanic though ... Nice twists being introduced... Else path4 onwards starts to get too easy. Good job paizo!
You'd also be risking some of the scenario-specific cohorts, like Anevia Tirabade, etc. If any of these are banished, they are removed from the game as well, so if a scenario calls for you to pull them out, they're just not there...
Indeed! Need to brush up on my cohorts.. Tricksssys little demon
I would say the answer is "Probably should be." We'll take a look at the rules and get back to you.
So, uh, what's the final answer?
I would say the answer is "Probably should be." We'll take a look at the rules and get back to you.So, uh, what's the final answer?
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Good to know, thanks.
Just had a thought. For the suture cohort, it's not a boon when encountered, so it's compulsory to attempt its acquire condition right?
Just had a thought. For the suture cohort, it's not a boon when encountered, so it's compulsory to attempt its acquire condition right?
The Suture is a support card, so neither bane nor boon. In regards to acquiring it, we have nothing to go by but the FAQ and the card.
The card overrules the FAQ, and the card doesn't make the check sound optional, so I'd say it's compulsory.
Just had a thought. For the suture cohort, it's not a boon when encountered, so it's compulsory to attempt its acquire condition right?The Suture is a support card, so neither bane nor boon. In regards to acquiring it, we have nothing to go by but the FAQ and the card.
The card overrules the FAQ, and the card doesn't make the check sound optional, so I'd say it's compulsory.
Thanks. I thought so too. Makes the storm king scenario scary without scouts.. he he
Cohorts are never boons, and so the rules for acquiring boons do not apply to them.
But in this case, it's the turn sequence that's winning out. You flip over the card and encounter it. The next thing in the sequence, even before you can evade, is Apply Any Effects That Happen When You Encounter a Card. The Suture has an effect that says "when you encounter," so you deal with that check right then. By the time you'd get to the point where you'd automatically acquire the cohort, it's either in your hand or in a location deck.
Hi Mike,
Just in case you plan to reuse the - VERY GOOD - cohort option in future APs and "invent" some scenarios/rules that would lead to having cohorts in location decks, may I suggest an additional rule like :
If you succeed at meeting the When Closing requirement, search the location deck for villains or cohorts. If you find any, banish all non-villain non-cohort cards from the location deck. The location is not closed—but at least you know where the villains or cohorts are!
If you didn’t find any villains or cohorts, perform the When Permanently Closed effect: First, apply any effects that say “before closing.” Then banish all of the cards from the location deck; it is now closed.
Hi Mike,
Just in case you plan to reuse the - VERY GOOD - cohort option in future APs and "invent" some scenarios/rules that would lead to having cohorts in location decks, may I suggest an additional rule like :
If you succeed at meeting the When Closing requirement, search the location deck for villains or cohorts. If you find any, banish all non-villain non-cohort cards from the location deck. The location is not closed—but at least you know where the villains or cohorts are!
If you didn’t find any villains or cohorts, perform the When Permanently Closed effect: First, apply any effects that say “before closing.” Then banish all of the cards from the location deck; it is now closed.
This seems like it would make more sense if you return the Cohort in the box, instead of banishing it with the other cards, but otherwise seems like a good thing to consider. (I could imagine situations where I would be bummed by not having the location closed just because a supposedly 'helpful' cohort turned out to be inside)
Look, Shaggy and Scooby were hiding under the table all along! :)