HALP WITH MUH DRAGON DISCIPLE


Rules Questions


Alright so I'm a 3rd level monk and I'm inquiring to find out if this scenerio is plausible and befitting the rules. If I were to take a level in shaman and suppose my spirit animal let me spontaneously cast an arcane spell would I qualify for the dragon disciple prestige class should I acquire the 5 skill ranks in knowledge arcana, assuming dragonic is a language I know? Your help is much appreciated, I feel this is perfectly legal because as long as I can spontaneously cast ONE arcane spell I meet the requirements. If I do not please try to back it up with evidence if you could. Please and thank you

Silver Crusade

What happens when your spirit animal dies?


Could you be more specific. I'm not sure how the spirit animal is allowing you to cast an arcane spell. Spells granted by a divine class's class ability are usually treated as divine spells.


I would say... Yes. Per the FAQ on SLA's I'd say that if the ability grants you spontaneous casting then it should work.

Question is, does the spell you get as spontaneous? Is 'not prepared in a spellbook' always spontaneous?

As for what happens when the animal dies; same thing that happens if you lose your precious headband of increased awesome charisma which qualified you for Eldritch Heritage, you lose the 'levels.' Powers are lost, bab and saves would remain, dragon strength, bite and claws /breath-weapon would vanish etc.


Here is the FAQ that says it counts.

HOWEVER...the dragon disciple's spell progression says this: "+1 level of existing arcane spellcasting class."

So you won't be improving your spellcasting, because you don't have any of the appropriate kind of spellcasting to improve.

Better option? Take that wisdom-based sorcerer archetype for a level, hop into Dragon Disciple refluffing the abilities as being from a Silver Dragon (they're all about healing and shiny holiness and such) instead of a celestial (or you could make references to the [url=http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Celestial_Bureaucracy_%28Scion%29]Celestial bureaucracy and imperial dragons, whatever...) and then party on as your casty-fighty self.

Edit: Obviously I recommend the wisdom-sorceror because I presume you have charisma as a dump stat. If it's a good score you can rock on with some other bloodline, if you wish.

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boring7 wrote:
Here is the FAQ that says it counts.

That FAQ says that SLAs can count for prereqs, but it's also true that all spells and SLAs granted by a spellcasting class are automatically the same type (arcane/divine) as the class that's granting it. So even if, say, a cleric domain lets you cast magic missile, that spell is divine.

There is no way for a divine class to provide an arcane spell/SLA unless it explicitly says "this spell counts as arcane" in the class ability.


^ what jiggy said. A divine class is giving you a SLA, so it'll count as a divine spell, even if it was imitating an arcane spell.

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