Any chance we could get a permanent section for settlements on the Goblinworks forum site?
Having an e-version of settlement tavern boards would really be beneficial to a lot of players.
This is why I think a settlement forum would be good. If I have a travelling character, or play off-hours, or am new and shopping settlements, I wouldn't want to have to check in at 12 different websites. I don't think it would detract from anyone's third-party solutions, but it would give other players the ability to post and read general settlement stuff.
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Yep, we have had our own "settlement" forums for quite some time. The UNC also has its own TeamSpeak and access to another specifically for Life Is Feudal.
Once PFO truly launches, most people will retreat to their own boards and any official forums will be the playground of Fanbois and trolls, while the rest of us are actually playing (PFO or something else).
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Keeper's, Phaeros, Blackwood, TEO, Callembea/Golgotha, Aragon, Freevale, Tavernhold, Kabal, vVv, Kruez Bernstein, Guardians, Phoenix Brotherhood, Canis Castrum..... blah blah blah
Almost everyone has their own websites dedicated to their organizations/settlements. Bluddwolf is entirely right, if they gave us forums they would be used by various levels of trolls, fanbois, and low level spies. Our own boards are much more secure, and allow us to do exactly what we want, essentially moderating and administrating how we like.
They are already giving us forums (unless the GW Alpha forums are going to close for EE). We'll get more fanboy/troll fun anyway as more people sign up, but it won't be that much different from current forum dynamics.
Everyone will have their own awesome (or less then awesome) solution for communication, and that's great. However, in a game where the end-concept is being pitched as community, we should have basic in-game resources for communicating with our...community. Having a private site for your settlement is great for all of the added benefits, not great because it's the only option for communication.
TL;DR - I'm old, and I don't want to join your mumble or myspace page.
Get off my lawn!
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TL;DR - I'm old, and I don't want to join your mumble or myspace page.
LOL. I subscribe that.
I suspect that the settlement public spaces will see a lot of off topic discussion and several kinds of negative posting, but they will have a valuable function.We will need to recruit people for our settlements, and people need to see that we exist, so a public space is needed.
Think of them as a open messageboard on the wall of a tavern. You will find personal insults, offers of sexual favors, incomprehensible messages and so on. But amid all the dross you will find some useful thing.
Offers of recruitment into local companies, call for semi organized raids against escalations, trade proposals and "I want to buy 100 unit of green ink, contact XXX between 16.00 and 18.00 server time" and so on.
If we can contain the dross to an acceptable level they can be useful.
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I think Keeper's also has a board on the enjin site.
Keepers main forums are here.
Seriously, how's an average guy like myself going to fight in the revolution unless I overhear it at the cafe board? Where will the five same old guys play dominoes every day? The waiter, Nico, always knows when someone is looking for a job to be done. Mind your voice though, the tourists think this is a great spot for a croissant.
(I'd love to see this eventually get pushed to the Taverns...not that I own a tavern)
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There is some settments listed in the alpha forums that one could peruse. Easier than trying to find them on these boards. But as mentioned before, most have their own sites they use.
Sure, and how outsider will know they web addresses? To get to the Phaeros forum you need to know that it is part of the Seventh veil forum. An to get that I need to know that the Seventh veil forum exist.
This isn't EVE where I can click on a character portrait and find his biography where he list that kind of information and the different addresses.In PFO we don't even know if there is people in our hex until they speak or get within our minimap area.
A in or out of game soapbox for public announcements is useful. Especially in a game where being cut out from the companies will severely limit people.
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I am confident that part of Ryan's vision includes having Companies and Settlements appear on the Goblinworks.com site. I'm equally confident that is extremely low priority relative to everything else that's going on right now and likely for the next year or more.
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Maybe, if all the people that have subscribed to EE is already a member of some company.
On the other hand, if there is a good number of unaffiliated people giving them a way to find a company in a game where being unaffiliated is strongly discouraged can be important. Players without an allegiance could enter the game, discover that they can't go nowhere without being members of a group and leave if they find it is difficult to find one.
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If you join a Settlement, via the Land Rush button, you can actually find information on most of the settlements, including their private forums.
All that needs to happen is for GW to allow a little more versatility with the Land Rush, essentially tying it to characters who are in charge of Settlements. Then allowing them to expound upon their settlement (which they already do), give clickable links, allow the posting of pictures, and generally a forum based editor to really get the word out.
They could make the link more noticeable, and in the Help chat in game send people to said destination.
For the benefit it would add to the game, I don't think adding sticky topics under Community in the GW forum would be much work to do.
No one is arguing that companies' third-party solutions aren't best for those companies. The benefits to the company and for hard core players is unquestionable. And yes, interested players will search out those web sites. This still leaves a big void for general communication in the realm, which makes it seem like a very, very quiet world, without much sense of community.
If players are going to work-around with third party solutions shouldn't we at least have a basic PFO option available to the general players (like the AH pricing discussion).
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Not sure what the issue is? On the Goblinworks forum, as mentioned, there is a Recruitment section where people can list both Settlements and Companies. It is up to the poster to give appropriate information such as links to their personal websites and whatnot.
I would hope that the Goblinworks forum is or becomes available to all EE participants.
Not sure what the issue is? On the Goblinworks forum, as mentioned, there is a Recruitment section where people can list both Settlements and Companies. It is up to the poster to give appropriate information such as links to their personal websites and whatnot.
I would hope that the Goblinworks forum is or becomes available to all EE participants.
Eve does this reasonably well. It not only has a recruitment forum but also a corp finder facility in game. The corp finder allows you to specify such things as play style, time zone and many other things. It then displays a list of appropriate corp adverts and provides a button for each corp to apply to them. This should not be hard to code frankly though it probably isnt a priority given how much other work they need to do
The Wilderness Wanderers has this on offer: Posting place for Settlements (or players in Settlements) to put out requests for various sorts of aide. I need to add more settlements to it; but then again I need to have those settlements' leaders tell me they want to be added.
Beyond that, I am not really sure what more settlements need for communications between settlements. If it is important settlement-level business, the leaders will be in touch directly.
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When I tested some of the early Company function, they had a command that brought up a window allowing you to set your goals, like:
PvP, PvE, Settlement Building, Expansion, Crafting, Diplomacy and so on....
Then you could look it up by those colored looking pips.
I think they are just polishing this up before debuting it.
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Morning all.
Ravenlute - All I was really talking about was getting a forum section with stickys for each Settlement for general discussion, not recruitment. Mainly, to keep other forum sections from being used this way, and to sticky Settlements instead of following hundreds of floaty topics.
Sspitfire - That's exactly what I was talking about...almost. You, and a couple of others here, really push out some awesome stuff for the players. I definitely use those resources and will continue to. However, my big issue is being able to play the game within the game's resources. (I'd still love to see this pushed to in-game boards one day)
I think basic and open communication avenues for the players are important for a well rounded world.
There's no shortage of company/settlement sites, and no real issue with people finding them, tools will develop to make all that even better, settlement and company leaders can still handle all the important world-building stuff they would like to, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about all of the other basic stuff that members of the settlements and companies will want to do.
Crafter Bob wants to find some gatherers from another town to work out a trade deal, Player Jane plans on wandering the NE mountains this weekend and wants to find some people to run around with, Fighter Joe wants to let all 7 of the settlement companies that there are bandits nearby (but he's just passing through and not a member of the settlement), a Bard just wants to post a ballad they composed so the people can hear it, etc, and so on.
Third-party solutions are just superior for winning the game, there's no argument. I'm just talking about a basic tool for playing the game and increasing the feeling of community.