Armor and Robe


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Goodday!

On page 207 of the Ultimate Equipment there is an image which explains what item goes on which body part. For example, it's possible to wear a circlet and a headband at the same time even though they both occupy the head.

Link This is the image in question.

Now it states that the body can wear robes and vestments while there is a seperate slot for suits of armor. You'd think both are the same thing but like headbands and circlets, it's different.

My question now is. Can I wear a mage robe which would give me a little bit of AC AND wear leather armor which gives me a tad more AC.
If so, will this stack since it both literally stacks up to protect the body.

Thanks in advance!


If two sources both give you armor bonuses, they do not stack. Also, I don't think there is a robe which will give you AC.

Scarab Sages

I'm not sure what a "mage robe" is in the game (I mean there are a bunch of magical robes but I can't find one specifically called that). Anyway, if they're both the same type of bonus they won't stack, you'll just use the highest. That's always the rule for these things.


RumpinRufus wrote:
If two sources both give you armor bonuses, they do not stack. Also, I don't think there is a robe which will give you AC.

Well that might be homebrew but in the campaign I'm playing in, a wizard once received a robe which gave a little AC. He made it from a basilisk or something.


If the robe gives you an "armor bonus" it will not stack with armor, if the robe gives you a "natural armor" or "deflection" or "dodge" or well, anything but "armor bonus" it will stack. and as a wizard, its usually better to just mage armor anyway :)


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Stikye is correct. Nor does it matter what slot the item is worn, bracers of armor do not stack with a worn suit of armor, you take the highest bonus. Same with robe, worn armor, spell of mage armor, etc. Highest bonus wins, the rest are just backups should the main bonus somehow fail (mage armor spell is removed, for example).

If it was a unique item that gave some different bonus (I have seen a shirt of +3 natural armor in a third party supplement before), they now have issue with any other item or effect that gives the exact kind of bonus.

The only exception I know for certain is dodging, dodging bonuses stack.

Perhaps amulet of natural armor with a creature's true natural armor (perhaps). I'm not clear on that one.


RumpinRufus wrote:
Also, I don't think there is a robe which will give you AC.

Just a note, there is the Robe of the Archmagi (from UE I believe) which gives a +5 armor bonus to AC. Still doesn't stack, but its there.

Grand Lodge

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RumpinRufus wrote:
If two sources both give you armor bonuses, they do not stack. Also, I don't think there is a robe which will give you AC.

There's at least one... The Robe of the ArchMagi.

But no, it would not stack with leather (or any other form of armor)


Amulet of Natural Armor does stack with a creature's Natural Armor, because the Amulet specifically applies an Enhancement Bonus to Natural Armor instead of a raw Natural Armor Bonus. If there's anything else giving an Enhancement Bonus to Natural Armor though, then you're back to not stacking.

For the purposes of the original question though, the rule regarding only one application of each bonus screws it. Take the higher, and if one gets sundered the other will kick in.


KestrelZ wrote:

Stikye is correct. Nor does it matter what slot the item is worn, bracers of armor do not stack with a worn suit of armor, you take the highest bonus. Same with robe, worn armor, spell of mage armor, etc. Highest bonus wins, the rest are just backups should the main bonus somehow fail (mage armor spell is removed, for example).

If it was a unique item that gave some different bonus (I have seen a shirt of +3 natural armor in a third party supplement before), they now have issue with any other item or effect that gives the exact kind of bonus.

The only exception I know for certain is dodging, dodging bonuses stack.

Perhaps amulet of natural armor with a creature's true natural armor (perhaps). I'm not clear on that one.

Unnamed stacks with unnamed, if memory serves (hardly EVER comes up) and circumstantial stack at DM's discretion.

Grand Lodge

boring7 wrote:
KestrelZ wrote:

Stikye is correct. Nor does it matter what slot the item is worn, bracers of armor do not stack with a worn suit of armor, you take the highest bonus. Same with robe, worn armor, spell of mage armor, etc. Highest bonus wins, the rest are just backups should the main bonus somehow fail (mage armor spell is removed, for example).

If it was a unique item that gave some different bonus (I have seen a shirt of +3 natural armor in a third party supplement before), they now have issue with any other item or effect that gives the exact kind of bonus.

The only exception I know for certain is dodging, dodging bonuses stack.

Perhaps amulet of natural armor with a creature's true natural armor (perhaps). I'm not clear on that one.

Unnamed stacks with unnamed, if memory serves (hardly EVER comes up) and circumstantial stack at DM's discretion.

Yes. The following stack (unless otherwise stated):

Dodge
Untyped
Circumstance bonuses from separate sources
Racial

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