poundpuppy30 |
I've a question about this arch type. When you hit level 5 under the Pistolero you gain a bonus on damage equal to your Dex Mod and under Gunslinger you get at 5th level Gun Training which adds damage from dex mod. so do they stack and if they stack does the misfire increase of 2 stack, since each gives that if you misfire?
James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies |
LoneKnave |
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Nefreet wrote:You just did. Congrats on your passive-aggression.James Risner wrote:I'm... not touching that one.Samasboy1 wrote:Errata removed Gun Training from PistoleroEven without errata it was crystal clear they were the same ability and wouldn't stack.
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LoneKnave |
Nefreet wrote:I'm... not touching that one.I was so clear that people were dared to build that character because when errata came down they would have a dead character with no way to rebuild or fix.
Like... how? What difference does it make at character building if you don't get two times DEX instead of once to your damage that it kills your character? At worst it hits your DPS hard (about 20-35%), but it doesn't remove on change your abilities that much that your character is forever ruined. Unlike, say, the crane wing nerf.
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Samasboy1 |
I'm considering building that arch type so are you saying that arch-type is no more also?
No, that isn't what he is saying. Pistolero the archetype still exists. It lost Gun Training in errata and only has Pistol Training.
He is referring to the rules in PFS for rebuilding characters when a rules change occurs.
James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies |
Ah ok. Cool then I can still take this arch-type. It's still a good damage out-put arch-type.
Yes you can take it and only get Dex to damage once. I was just saying that PFS leadership said the intent was so clear that they essentially dared you to do it in PFS because if you did and the errata came out your character would be permanently dead at that point and no way to recover.
James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies |
I would think the retraining book would be able to be used
I don't think anyone thought it worked or should have worked, but some people asserted it is "RAW" and were building characters.
It came down that anyone building these characters needed to retrain away, because when the Errata does get published you would no longer be able to retrain it.
Basically a paraphrased "I dare you to use it and retrain out of it before the Errata lands." A game of chicken.
James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies |
James, I believe you are thinking of the Pistolero/Mysterious Stranger combo. That was what they said could not be rebuilt.
I thought there were more than one way to build it to get double dex by ignoring that Pistol Training and Gun Training were clearly the same ability and mutually exclusive.
DarkPhoenixx |
James, I believe you are thinking of the Pistolero/Mysterious Stranger combo. That was what they said could not be rebuilt.
Thank you, i was confused when reading this thread but now when you mentioned that characters were buit by using 2 archetypes that with errata replace 1 feature it makes sense now.