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That doesn't even mention the idea that there are people in factions with....less than honorable intent. I know that there is a cleric of rovagug who is helping the silver crusade because it offers an excellent opportunity to understand how the "other half" lives. (okay, maybe this is my character). Should we burn down the silver crusade because they have rovagugites or razmirans in it?
In world, I have real problems with many characters being allowed in the society or particular factions. It interferes with my willing suspension of disbelief that a Rovagugite is even allowed in the society, let alone the Silver Crusade.
I understand why the rules are as they are and am not trying to get them to change.
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I still can't see how to reconcile the Cheliax goal, though, with a non-evil PC. The few defenses I've heard include, "she hasn't betrayed the Mendevians yet..." but we know that is her plan; she tells us that directly.Until the Paracountess truly betrays our GLORIOUS SOCIETY I shall continue to honor her requests, as information cannot harm until it is put to use. Should she then turn against us, so shall I and my brother turn against her.
Indeed, my brother! Flame is both beautiful and deadly. It can burn those not of NOBLE EFREETI blood, and yet also shed light and warmth. Shall we extinguish such a useful tool for a fear of what may come in the future?
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That doesn't even mention the idea that there are people in factions with....less than honorable intent. I know that there is a cleric of rovagug who is helping the silver crusade because it offers an excellent opportunity to understand how the "other half" lives. (okay, maybe this is my character). Should we burn down the silver crusade because they have rovagugites or razmirans in it?In world, I have real problems with many characters being allowed in the society or particular factions. It interferes with my willing suspension of disbelief that a Rovagugite is even allowed in the society, let alone the Silver Crusade.
I understand why the rules are as they are and am not trying to get them to change.
Keep your friends close....
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This is the question: whether this statement is in fact correct. Can a character actively support the Paracountess' plans to prolong the Fifth Crusade while not being evil? By doing so, you'd be complicit in the deaths of thousands, all to further an individual's personal power play, while at the same time betraying the Pathfinder Society, who has pledged its support to Mendev both by necessity and by legal treaty (something that should carry weight with the Lawful Chelaxian). Waiting and seeing what happens is one way, as several have suggested. Obviously lots of people are doing it, so I want to know what their story is - how do they reconcile the conflict?
Some people like to play imperfect people. People with foibles, flaws. They want room to grow.
One answer: IF someone else holds your family hostage unless you "serve in their stead" so you work within the Cheliax faction, weighing every single mission with a a heavy heart whether or not this one thing is worth the death of your daughter, your mother, your son.... is that person evil? Truly? Some day, the mission will come when you can no longer follow what you are given and you know on that day, you will sign the death warrant of your loved ones. It isn't the easy way, but it is a way. Just one. There are as many more as there are people out there playing.
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A little off topic, but... Iomedae was Chelaxian, and before his disappearance Cheliax was a very strong supporter of Aroden. I veiw the Chelaxian faction to be more that aspect of the country, less evil than the are made out to be. While Zarta can be misguided at times she is more in line with the neutral Society side of things than the Thrunes... Just my opinion. If I make another Paladin it'll be Chelaxian all the way...
Don't get me started on Sczarni, they are sooo Society it hurts. No political nonsense, just good old treasure hunters with "connections". None of their old faction missions were nearly as extreme as Andoran or Qadiran.
Yeah, I can see more trouble caused by an Andoran PC, especially if he has to deal with PC from Cheliax or of that faction. The Chelish guy isn't going to be the one causing trouble in that situation, in my experience.
I know I'm going to be playing my Andoran PC soon when a friend plays his Asmodean cleric lawyer. I expect entertaining friction.
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In world, I have real problems with many characters being allowed in the society or particular factions. It interferes with my willing suspension of disbelief that a Rovagugite is even allowed in the society, let alone the Silver Crusade.
I understand why the rules are as they are and am not trying to get them to change.
Well, to be fair, my Rovagugite "bard" (hidden priest) of Sarenrae does work on completing faction missions for the crusade, so he is helping the silver crusade's goals: he just happens to be gathering intel on the good aligned churches along the way. Just like paladins have to put aside the willingness to smite him if they happen to figure out what he really is, he is willing to put aside his desire to watch everything burn to cooperate with the society. That's what makes the society great: that a cleric of Sarenrae and Rovagug can put aside their differences and work together for the betterment of all.