2014's R3 Location / Encounter / Map round rules posted


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Designer, RPG Superstar Judge

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Edit: The tech team has posted the R3 rules. Here's a summary.

• Overall it's very similar to the rules from last year's Location/Encounter/Map rules, with the following changes...
• Location and Encounter are limited to an urban location (i.e., not a forest, swamp, or other non-urban location)
• Does not have to fit on a Flip-Mat (so you can exceed 24 x 30 squares)
• You have to use someone else's R2 monster
• You can't use your own R2 monster
• No required Trap element (although you can include one if you want to)
• Encounter should be "suitable" for 3rd-level PCs (whether that's easy, average, challenging, hard, or epic is up to you)
• No playtesting period between the R3 reveal and the start of R3 voting

Be sure to read the R3 rules in their entirety and follow the requirements listed there (don't just go by this summary).

Good luck!

RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka michaeljpatrick

Does the R2 monster have to be one of the 8 that get upvoted or any of the 16?

RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka RainyDayNinja

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For a few seconds there, I was thinking to myself "Ah! Of course I have to use one of the Round 2 monsters! Why haven't I been reading and evaluating them yet?!"

Designer, RPG Superstar Judge

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You can use any of the 32 monsters from Round 2, it doesn't have to be one from an author who makes it to Round 3.

(Which, FYI, is how we normally do it... it's easier to say "anything from a previous round this year is allowed" than make it more complex by crossing some things off the list.)

RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka michaeljpatrick

oh right. 32 and 16. I was thinking of the numbers from previous years.

And thank you.

RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka motteditor

Ah, thank you. This saves me a lot of effort of working on some of my non-urban encounters...

I really do appreciate that contestants are getting the encounter "twists" sooner. I think that lets us all put our best foot forward.

Lantern Lodge RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7

Expanded map size, excellent!

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9

This sounds fun, thanks for the info :)

Paizo Employee RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8

Thanks Sean! Can't wait to see the monsters tomorrow!

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8

Sean K Reynolds wrote:

You can use any of the 32 monsters from Round 2, it doesn't have to be one from an author who makes it to Round 3.

(Which, FYI, is how we normally do it... it's easier to say "anything from a previous round this year is allowed" than make it more complex by crossing some things off the list.)

31, Sean - they can't use their own.

Rules are looking good. Pleased to see the urban trend continue.

Designer, RPG Superstar Judge

True, true.

RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6 aka Evil Paul

Thanks Sean. Most appreciated.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 , Star Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka burrahobbit

Thanks for the heads-up, Sean!

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan

Mucho apreciado!

Paizo Employee RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8

Oh man, round 3 is going to be a bloodbath; 75% of those who submit encounters will be eliminated!

I suppose the same is true of round 4, but round 3 still seems more brutal.

Star Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9

Interesting. Not unexpected, but some of these rules might have thrown my hypothetical encounter scenario for a loop had I made it this far. (Though the "non-flip mat" rule would have definitely worked in my favor.)

Good luck guys! Interested in seeing what you came up with for round 2!


I seem to remember seeing a set of blank map templates posted in a previous year's thread, but I can't seem to find it now. Does anyone have the link to those?

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan

In the Encounter thread I started several other ones were posted as well.


Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote:
In the Encounter thread I started several other ones were posted as well.

That's where I saw them! Thanks!!


Sean K Reynolds wrote:

You can use any of the 32 monsters from Round 2, it doesn't have to be one from an author who makes it to Round 3.

(Which, FYI, is how we normally do it... it's easier to say "anything from a previous round this year is allowed" than make it more complex by crossing some things off the list.)

Now that we've seen the other monsters, quick question:

When we use one of the other submitted monsters, do we have to use them EXACLY as written, or can we make shorthand changes to them just like Paizo monsters? Also, if we feel that the CR for the creature was slightly off the mark, can we change the CR when we use it in our writeup?

RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka RainyDayNinja

Tyler Beck wrote:
Sean K Reynolds wrote:

You can use any of the 32 monsters from Round 2, it doesn't have to be one from an author who makes it to Round 3.

(Which, FYI, is how we normally do it... it's easier to say "anything from a previous round this year is allowed" than make it more complex by crossing some things off the list.)

Now that we've seen the other monsters, quick question:

When we use one of the other submitted monsters, do we have to use them EXACLY as written, or can we make shorthand changes to them just like Paizo monsters? Also, if we feel that the CR for the creature was slightly off the mark, can we change the CR when we use it in our writeup?

You'll probably have to wait until the full rules for the answer, but I'm guessing you can't change them (probably not even adding class levels). If you feel the CR is off, you're probably better off using terrain and positioning to correct the difficulty.

Designer, RPG Superstar Judge

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You should treat all of the R2 monsters as you would monsters in a printed book. You can add to them (such as by adding a template or class levels), but you can't "fix" them, as people will freak out and tell you that you changed the CR from the original source. ;) :p

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
You should treat all of the R2 monsters as you would monsters in a printed book. You can add to them (such as by adding a template or class levels), but you can't "fix" them, as people will freak out and tell you that you changed the CR from the original source. ;) :p

[/SilenceMode] Would you consider it "fixing" a monster if a designer changed the feat selection using shorthand to reflect that individual's background? I don't mean bonus feats, just the feats it gets from racial HD. [SilenceMode]

Designer, RPG Superstar Judge

I think that falls within what's allowed for "Variant Monsters" (the 2014 R3 rules should be posted today, and will use the same definition of "Variant Monsters" as the 2013 R4 rules).

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The rules page for Round 3 is now available here! :)

Paizo Employee RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8

Thanks Chris!

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan

Indeed, now to compare for differences!

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