Shadow Gambit + Mirror Image


Rules Questions


4 people marked this as FAQ candidate.

How do these two interact?

Shadow Gambit allows you to deal damage with a figment, at the cost of that figment being dismissed.

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Using this feat immediately ends the figment’s duration.

Notice the wording says the "figment's duration" and not "the spell's" duration or even "the illusion's duration".

Then you have Mirror Image which specifies:

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If the attack is a hit, roll randomly to see whether the selected target is real or a figment. If it is a figment, the figment is destroyed. If the attack misses by 5 or less, one of your figments is destroyed by the near miss.

Which suggests to me that each image is it's own figment.

So what I am getting at is, if I have 5 images up, can I use Shadow Gambit to deal damage with each one individually, popping the figments one at a time?

Another question / clarification:

SG states:

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The illusion must be one you retain ongoing control of, such as minor image,

How do you define "ongoing control of"? One can ASSUME it means need to concentrate on or expend an action to control, but that isn't spelled out or worded that way. Am I not retaining control of Mirror Image (until the spell duration ends or they all get popped)? To me, this would be mostly for Instantaneous illusions, like color spray.

Thoughts?


I think this is FAQ worthy and have marked it as such.


You do not retain ongoing control of mirror image - it/they look exactly like you do for the duration. You can't move them around, make them purple, or have them look in different directions.


Majuba wrote:
You do not retain ongoing control of mirror image - it/they look exactly like you do for the duration. You can't move them around, make them purple, or have them look in different directions.

So to you "retain ongoing control" means being able to change or manipulate the figment vs. having to spend a Standard Action to keep the illusion/figment going?

There are different interpretations, because my first instinct is to think they meant that it has to have a Concentration cost involved and has nothing to do with my ability to reshape the illusion as I see fit.

Mirror Image reads:

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These images remain in your space and move with you, mimicking your movements, sounds, and actions exactly.

Sounds like I retain ongoing control of these illusions (as long as they remain up). If I want them to raise their arms, I raise my arms, etc.

Dark Archive

Not sure on the answer so dotting this for future.

I am looking at getting this feat for my Trickery(deception)/Chaos cleric. As he has mirror images and mislead (both of which would be great fun to use with this as a melee cleric).

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