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Say I'm a tiefling. And I'm taking the dragon disciple prestige class. As part of my tiefling build, I take the maw or claw alternative racial trait. I choose claws. Can I still grow claws from the dragon bloodline? What if I choose to not wear shoes, can I do it then? I'd have two limbs available for clawing things. Same question applies to catfolk that take the draconic bloodline
Claws go on hands only. Talons go on feet only.
Claws go on hands only. Talons go on feet only.I'm just going to leave this here....
The Devs have already said that yes, animals break the rules. PCs do not though. This is a question that has come up several times. I can't recall if there is an FAQ about it, but the answer is no.
Again, claws go on hands, talons go on feet. There aren't currently no abilities that provide talons on feet to my knowledge.
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The Devs have already said that yes, animals break the rules. PCs do not though. This is a question that has come up several times. I can't recall if there is an FAQ about it, but the answer is no.
Again, claws go on hands, talons go on feet. There aren't currently no abilities that provide talons on feet to my knowledge.
You are wrong. Talons belong in two places. 1) Birds. 2)Dinosaurs. Anything else claiming to have talons is lying. Here is a link defining the word claw and talon. In mammals, claws are called nails. Claw is the generalized term for all sharp pointing things on the end of limbs made out of keratin (and sometimes not even at the end of limbs, my dog has dew claws about halfway up the metatarsals).
It is already explained that mammals in pathfinder can get claw attacks. See Tieflings, Catfolk, and Ratfolk. In all of these examples, they call them Claws. Even though in mammals, the correct term is nail. So ignoring the fact that talons don't even come into play here, we get back to the original question. Can humanoids get claw attacks on their feet. This is a 111 post long page discussing this exact issue in which a grand total of [b]0 things[/url] were accomplished. This gets even more difficult with the addition of materials such as Feral Combat Training, which is designed to let the more-beast-like monk use their claws and bites and tail swipes as part of a flurry of blows.
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Out of the mouth of SKR: Please stop trying to break the game
You are wrong. Talons belong in two places. 1) Birds. 2)Dinosaurs. Anything else claiming to have talons is lying. Here is a link defining the word claw and talon. In mammals, claws are called nails. Claw is the generalized term for all sharp pointing things on the end of limbs made out of keratin (and sometimes not even at the end of limbs, my dog has dew claws about halfway up the metatarsals).
It is already explained that mammals in pathfinder can get claw attacks. See Tieflings, Catfolk, and Ratfolk. In all of these examples, they call them Claws. Even though in mammals, the correct term is nail. So ignoring the fact that talons don't even come into play here, we get back to the original question. Can humanoids get claw attacks on their feet. This is a 111 post long page discussing this exact issue in which a grand total of [b]0 things[/url] were accomplished. This gets even more difficult with the addition of materials such as Feral Combat Training, which is designed to let the more-beast-like monk use their claws and bites and tail swipes as part of a flurry of blows.
As Halfing Barbarian pointed out, you are dead wrong. Don't try to make arguments based on Wikipedia or the dictionary, the have virtually 0 relevance to Pathfinder as a game.
Also, when I said animals what I meant was things from the bestiary. They break the rules. Reality has no bearing on the game world. The Devs say claws go on hands, talons go n feet.
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Out of the mouth of SKR: Please stop trying to break the game
thank you for answering the question. That was all that was required. And I'm not trying to break the game. If that were the case, Zen archer. Or synthesist summoner. I had a valid question for something that I could not find the definition for
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The idea is that a creature with 4 or more legs can have claws on the front-most legs that are effective for normal attacks. A lion, while having claws on all 4 feet, will rear up to make what are mechanically "claw" attacks in Pathfinder with only the front two. In order to utilize the claws on the rear legs, the lion must Pounce and use Rake. This, by extension, would apply to other creatures who have more than 4 legs. If a hypothetical animal with 8 legs had claws on all 8 of them, it would still only be able to make Claw natural attacks with the two front-most legs and the rest would need to be used as Rakes on a Pounce attack. Claws on hands don't suffer any restrictions because we don't use our hands for walking and, even if we did (ie. gorillas), they would effectively be the same as the front claws on a quadruped. So, a better answer to the question should be that you can get claws on your feat, but to use them, you need to Pounce and Rake with them; you can't use them on just a normal attack or full-attack.
alright. So barbarians with the greater beast totem can utilize feet claws then? That's the only way I am aware of for a humanoid pc to get pounce.
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As Halfing Barbarian pointed out, you are dead wrong. Don't try to make arguments based on Wikipedia or the dictionary, the have virtually 0 relevance to Pathfinder as a game.
Also, when I said animals what I meant was things from the bestiary. They break the rules. Reality has no bearing on the game world. The Devs say claws go on hands, talons go n feet.
please link to wear the devs said talons are always feet claws, when the only mention of the word talon that I could find is on beastiary entries on birds and dinosaurs
Actually, the only way animals get the claw attacks on their feet is with rake. Pounce simply allows a full attack after a charge, to get the claw attacks from feet they'd have to have the rake ability as well.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pzg0?Standard-Races-Claws-Talons-and-Feet#1
This thread discusses it and also contains a link to a thread where the person who wrote much of the bestiary has some comments, basically affirming bipedal creatures can't have claws on their feet.
The basic resolution was that some creatures in the bestiary break the rules as can Eidolons, but PCs do not. The essential conclusion that it's effectively just gaming the system and trying to get around the built in restrictions.
Also, as far as I'm aware pounce on a bipedal creature will not allow you to attack with your feet in any way.
The claw attack that tengu get is on their hands.
The game designers seem pretty intent that finding ways to make additional attacks beyond the two hands that PCs get should be very limited. I think the Alchemist's arms they can grow, and maybe the tieflings prehensile tail can be used as weapons.