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Does anyone know a scenario that has a chronicle sheet with Wand of Fly or Wand of Lightning Bolt as their treasures? I would like to get one of these before level 9 when my prestige would allow. Thanks for the help in this. :)
Generally speaking, GL, we don't encourage this sort of meta-gaming. Sometimes a Chronicle boon or an available item becomes news and people fall to gossip about it, but, really, you shouldn't be walking into an adventure knowing something like this shows up in the scenario, let alone that it is available for purchase.
Sorry.
Not necessarily called for the sarcasm. The point is, they don't want people to play only one campaign to get the awesome stuff, they want to open up all the scenarios for play and have the rewards be a surprise. And your not going up to people asking them "hey you got a wand of fly as a reward." The point of Society play is that you have missions from the lodge. Kinda like taking orders from a commanding officer in the military, you generally just do it. If you want specific gear, play a homebrew.
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Im sorry that the answers are not the one you seek. Most of us on here dont want our game to devolve into a certain other game that people made lists of items and people only played them so they could get certain items. The way to get an item that you have found on a chronicle, but played the "wrong" character is to than GM it so you can give it to the "right" character. I understand that to you this was no big deal, but to me it is uncomfortable to play for the items found, when your PC shouldnt even know what will be found. I hope you can still find fun in our game even though this thread didnt go where you hoped it would.
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Also I didn't sign up in the military for a reason and this isn't the military.
Actually, it sort of is.
Not a uniformed militia, no, but we're all playing agents of the Society.
Someone once described the PCs as "a cross between Indiana Jones and James Bond." James Bond doesn't let M know that he'd like an assignment where he might run into a nuclear launch encoding machine. He goes where he's sent.
If I am playing a character that needs or wants an item to help him, I can inquire and find a quest needed to locate said item.
No, sorry, not in character.
So thanks for all the judgmental, belittling and totally useless posts. I will be sure in the future not to ask for help here anymore.
I sincerely didn't mean to judge or belittle you.
The campaign leadership has mentioned frequently that PFS isn't for everyone. If you're looking for a campaign where your character can set a goal and decide on the adventures necessary for him to find that goal, then it sounds like there's a mismatch between what you want and the way the campaign is set up. You might be happier playing Pathfinder under other circumstances.
Whatevery you decide, good luck.
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Does anyone know a scenario that has a chronicle sheet with Wand of Fly or Wand of Lightning Bolt as their treasures? I would like to get one of these before level 9 when my prestige would allow. Thanks for the help in this. :)
*headscratch*
Wand of lightning bolt 11,250 gp
27 fame is 11,750 so you only need 27 fame.
6 fame per level max= 5-6 levels worth puts you at level 6 to 7 to be able to get it unless you're clanking faction missions.
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Game Links: People aren't shying away from sharing the contents of chronicle sheets because they're unhelpful, they're doing it because chronicles are often full of spoilers for the scenario they're associated with, and sharing that information could be regarded as borderline cheating.
You might be interested in finding out that a scenario features a wand of fly because your wizard needs one, but if that information is openly shared, it also means that people know they should probably go into that adventure expecting a foe that doesn't have wings and which might start flying at a moment's notice.
The culture among the players I game with is that the contents of the chronicle are akin to the contents of the scenario itself, i.e. off-limits until you've played the scenario in question.
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Maybe I'm just lucky, but I have only failed like 3 faction missions among all my characters. This site is generally made up of people that don't like spoilers, and don't like to spoil things for other people. That is why people are reluctant to post spoilers on here. I'm glad you found what you wanted, but please don't hold it against the people on here for not posting that information. In character you don't know what you are going to find when you go on an adventure, and a lot of people that play the game like to play it that way.
Society is very much rules based. It does't want metagaming, and actually discourages it in the rules. Hence why it asks to only play and gm only one scenario for credit (minus lvl 1), and it even states that it discourages the replaying (PC) of a scenario in the case the person replaying might ruin it with metagaming. Up to GM discretion on that part though.
And the society is a militia/military/organization/business (ingame) all four of those have a "boss" figure in them and if you don't do as your told, you get canned...and if you want a specific reward for services rendered, that is what the fame is for. so that you can trick out your character how you want when your character gets renowned enough in the organization. Think of it as a reward for being an outstanding member of the company...you get to use the VIP bathroom.
This is not to insult or belittle or to push beliefs...it was how it was created. As I said at the beginning, the PFS was made as a rules based system. And your getting mad at us for trying to stay in the boundary of the rules. If you and your players go up to the scenario on game day at a con and ask to see the chronicle sheet before hand to see if it has the item you want, they will probably tell you no.
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@GameLink: The reaction you got was not one of people being unhelpful, it is that of people for whom the contents of the Chronicle sheet are part of the general information for a scenario or module.
Sharing it might be possible in the GM sub-forum, but this is the genmeral players forum, and people try not to include what they consider spoiler information. In the player forum, sometimes they shy away from providing that information even under a spoiler tag.
Mainly because the oinformation that X itme is available also means that it is likely that an enemy in the scenario is going to be using X item against the party. So, going in to play Scenario Y, where you know Wand X is available, and then using a scroll or potion of Resist Energy X during the scenario? Metagaming, and something we try to avoid.
For more general questions, or for character-specific help, we are all over it. For PFS-specific rules questions, we are all over it. In the GM forum, we are all over helping answer specific questions about a scenario for a PFS GM preparing to run it.
But your question strikes most of us as being in the nature of, "Hey, guys! I am going to be playing scenario Y over the weekend, and I have heard that there is a Storm Giant in it. Any suggestions on items I could get that would help us defeat that giant quicker?" As compared to a general thread, probably in the Pathfinder Advice forum, asking for suggestions on how to handle encounters with giants.
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Twice now, I've treated your "help me cheat" question with courtesy, and twice, you've been rude and sarcastic. I would never suggest that you personally have entitlement issues, but you should understand that that's how your posts are coming across.
Also there is no rule that states I can't read and know the contents of EVERY chronicle I play in.
There is a requirement that you notify your GM if that's the case, and he has the right to ask you to leave if you act on that knowledge.
So, just let me be clear: if a player sat at my table, having gone to the trouble to research the Chronicle sheet and find out what goodies were on it, and what threats he'd be likely to encounter, I'd ask him how he found out about that, because it's information he shouldn't have. And if his answer were "I wanted to know where to get a wand of lightning bolts," that wouldn't be an acceptable answer. (Acceptable answers would include "I have already run the adventure as a GM.")
I'd ask him to leave the table. With a Chronicle, but no gold, no XP.
Now you've gotten your nose bent out of shape and threatened us "If you don't want to let me cheat, then I'm not going to play your silly Society and I'll bet a lot of other people won't play, too, and then where will you be? I'll bet you'll have to, oh, go door-to-door to find players."
My perspective is that players enjoy encountering the scenario without a lot of metagame fore-knowledge. When somebody announces that this opponent has a given item, or that opponent is hiding in the secret alcove, or that we need to watch out for a particular type of trap, people don't like that.
I find the idea of people discussing here how to enable cheating (apparently this was succesfully done in another thread) about as appealing and appropriate as people discussing how to pirate Paizo digital material.
PFS includes a mechanic, Prestige, which is meant to cover all the out-of-scenario roleplaying which you might use to gain items (or other benefits), which could be by somebody giving you a hint of where to go on your own quest, somebody giving you a special discount or purchasing opportunity, etc. Bypassing that is just straight up cheating.
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This thread is not going in a positive direction. It hasn't since very early in the thread's brief life. I've removed a number of posts that crossed the line of civil conversation. Personal attacks are never acceptable on paizo.com.
As has been stated upthread, the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign is one in which we hope that players are not reading ahead (either adventures or Chronicle sheets) in order to cherry-pick adventures based on a checklist of monsters they'd like to encounter or equipment they'd like to receive. As such, we consider discussion of such spoilers to be against the spirit of the game. If you'd like to buy a wand, I encourage you to play adventures in an effort to increase your character's Fame, which will allow access to the desired wands. Along the way, you may even encounter a partially charged wand that you can buy at a lower cost or a fully charged wand that you can get at a lower Fame threshold.
Since the OP's question has been addressed and the thread has nowhere left to go but further accusations of other people having badwrongfun, I'm locking the thread.