Bron Stonetrapper
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A rough looking Dwarf walks in using a great axe as a walking stick.
"boy-yo, you need ta get better locks on this place." Hands over the parts. "Ya see that spring? It will snap like that if pressure is applied wrong.Only took me a couple a seconds to get thru." Hands Auris a business card. "Good thing I work cheap."
Address on the card is listed as Westcrown.
Jaleel Livianna
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Chelaxian vipers aside, we still need to solve our Major's problem. If the Chelaxians keep eaves dropping, they should remember that we didn't have to bail our faction leader out of one of our own prisons. Or try to kill her.
It's not the size of the Major's biceps that intrigue me. I'd like to know how he thinks. What his plans future plans might be.
If the Chelaxian vipers are interested to know, the way to keep a man happy is to keep his stomach full and his "snake" drained of venom.
Menaje Guerra
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Interesting, cryng for new leadership , now just wants ideas...
Ohh by the way Bron you were such a doll with the lock thanks hun, Muah.
Simple men want simple things like food and, well yes THAT.
Simple men do not do sublties and plots as the Major is involved in.
Simple men does not include Major Colston.
If you did not want something scandalous with him, why purpose something easily seen us such?
Occam's razor would suggest well I think we all know...
As I said earlier, takes one to know one.
Tah Tah
Auris Deftfoot, if you are not busy I could use your help with something...
Jaleel Livianna
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Go clean your own house! I know PLENTY to Chelaxians who are tired of being addressed as "meat poppet" and may have relished a change in leadership. I'm trying to save a (hopefully) good man while the Socitety is sending us out to rescue your HARLOT leader in order to maintain a status quo.
If Zarta wasn't smart enough to read the political writing on the wall, perhaps she shouldn't have stayed in power. And if she knows anything about ANY predicament the Major may be in, she should at least repay the favor. We had to risk our lives to save hers. She owes us one.
Qstor
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I have faith in Major Colson Maldris decisions. For the past 4 years I have laid my life on the lines for the Andoran faction. I see some your comments as disgruntled members. These claims belong with the disreputable Shadow Lodge and Grandmaster Torch. No with the freedom loving members of the Andoran faction.If Madris wants a Chelaxian slaver dead. I say when and where...
Sir Grog Eagle Knight of Andor
RobertTHEPerylous
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From the corner, a well dressed entertainer stops twiddling on his lute to lift the broad brim of his hat. He speaks with a carrying voice.
"Do we need a change or just an in depth investigation? It sounds to me much more like the latter. I'm up for whatever is necessary, but only if very necessary on the former."
He lowers his hat brim, and goes back to playing.
Corvus Cailean
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"If we need a change sir, then is up for the People's council to make that change not us. If you do not like your lot with Andoran anymore, then you have the freedom to leave at anytime."
Knight Captain Samuel Revell looks a bit irked by all the underhanded gossip and innuendo being banded about
Well, I'd like to see what he has to say on that matter. Someone dangle a blonde and a bourbon out the window and see if he shows up to answer...
Kyle Saltz
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Umm...Please forgive my presence in here. I do not mean to pry. However I do have a list of potential wrongs that is unbecoming of honor or justice.
I have always admired the Andoran spirit however I believe there is some issues with the current leadership with-in this faction. I have noticed sabotage, assassinations, a foreign policy of terrorist attacks in my homeland of Cheliax, and also started to notice unwanted foreign influence in my region of Verisia. How can freedom and justice be done through bully tactics and terrorist attacks? I have even read stories of starting or financing rebellions. Such activities is reserved for criminals not the brave knights of Andoran. Thank you, and with that I am going to leave with-out too many arrows or blades going for my throat.
Sven von Jeggare of the house of Jeggare.
Galindar Arendale
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**an aging man in brown robes, smoking a pipe that belies his pesh habits, quickly scribbles a note to add Kyle Saltz to "the list" of individuals to meet "Andoran justice" before standing up to speak**
Hmm, this is most disheartening to hear of. I must agree, if there is proof to these claims, then it would be to the best interest of our cause to spread the banner of freedom across the face of Golarion to have our dear Major step down.
I do not fault the man, mind you. In my younger days . . . hundreds of years ago, I too was rather . . . **seems to drift off** . . . where was I? Oh, yes, infidelity.
That said, our leadership must be the flag we tie to our mast to proudly display to all the nations of the world and our enemies of freedom that these are the examples we strive to reach. Anything else makes ourselves seem both vulnerable to reproach and, more importantly, suffer from the same corruption that we fight against in our enemies.
Now, of course, we may desire new leadership and it may come to pass that we will receive this change of leadership within our ranks. However, I do not see anyone stepping up to offer suggestions or willing to put their names forward for leadership.
So, the question is, then, whom amongst us believes that they know of someone that can accomplish greater deeds and rise us to greater heights than our dear Major?
Jaleel Livianna
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The blonde has been dangling and the Major doesn't seem interested in the bait. We STILL need a response and/or a rebuttal from Major Colson Maldris. Perhaps he is too EMBARASSED to respond.
If no one else wants to step up and lead our faction, perhaps our government should get off of it's collective but and choose a new representative. Andor cannot force Major Maldris to settle down and marry someone, Ador could SUGGEST that Major Maldris pick someone and quit "playing the field". It was Major Maldris' orders to cover up HIS EMBARASSMENT that led me to my call for his removal in the first place. Our appointed leader should not be placing himself in any kind of embarassing situation.
Corvus Cailean
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Umm...Please forgive my presence in here. I do not mean to pry. However I do have a list of potential wrongs that is unbecoming of honor or justice.
There's a difference between justice and the law boyo, you're proof of that.
I have always admired the Andoran spirit however I believe there is some issues with the current leadership with-in this faction. I have noticed sabotage
buffs his claws
, assassinations,
They had it coming.
a foreign policy of terrorist attacks in my homeland of Cheliax
you say terrorist, i say freedom fighter. Really is a matter of perspective...
and also started to notice unwanted foreign influence in my region of Verisia.
Its all yours then, the entire region? CAW, someone put out the red carpet boys, we got ourselves some roy al tee here.
How can freedom and justice be done through bully tactics and terrorist attacks?
One dead slaver at a time. Or two, or three. Four on a good day...
I have even read stories of starting or financing rebellions.
That explains what happened to the tip jar...
Such activities is reserved for criminals not the brave knights of Andoran.
Well, when someone tries to do the right thing you toss them in jail. Andoran knights try to do the right thing, so that would make us crimminals.
Thank you, and with that I am going to leave with-out too many arrows or blades going for my throat.
Where's the fun in THAT? Turn the other cheek and all that...
*draws back an enormous yew bow*
Left or right butcheek first?
Sichelgaita One-Eye
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The blonde has been dangling and the Major doesn't seem interested in the bait. We STILL need a response and/or a rebuttal from Major Colson Maldris. Perhaps he is too EMBARASSED to respond.
If no one else wants to step up and lead our faction, perhaps our government should get off of it's collective but and choose a new representative. Andor cannot force Major Maldris to settle down and marry someone, Ador could SUGGEST that Major Maldris pick someone and quit "playing the field". It was Major Maldris' orders to cover up HIS EMBARASSMENT that led me to my call for his removal in the first place. Our appointed leader should not be placing himself in any kind of embarassing situation.
Sichlgaita One-Eye looks her fellow Pathfinder up and down. "Rather you than me, girly," she observes wryly. "Quite the sacrifice you're thinking of making for the Cause."
Her voice becomes serious as she continues. "My own orders have been straight-forward, from an ethical standpoint, but if the Major is using his position for this kind of thing...such conduct is more befitting of the snakes of Cheliax, not the proud eagles of Andoran. My vote would be for his re-assignment to a colder, more polar region, and for a woman to take his place. Preferably a cleric of Iomedae or Sarenrae. With such a one leading us, the likelihood of such behaviour is removed and our younger Faction members can feel confident that the ideals they believe in are cherished as much by their leader as by themselves."
She speaks to Jaleel one more time. "Don't dangle for too long, you may catch cold."
Sichelgaita One-Eye
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"Well, don't look at *me*," Sichelgaita retorts. " The prospect, to me, makes hanging upside down in the Pit fighting off devils with my spit sound relaxing and pleasant by comparison. But each to their own, and if you're willing to make such a sacrifice then you should be honoured for it."
She sighs. "This all seemed simple, when I came to Absalom," she says sadly. "I came from Andoran, I love my country, so following the Major's orders seemed right. But listening to you... Well, if I get any such orders as you describe, it'll be as a Paladin of Iomedae that I act, not a soldier of Andoran.." Her gauntleted fingers tap the hilt of Reason, her polished longsword.
Nesod the Monkchinegun
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A spindly Tien man steps out of the corner. "Sichelgaita! Nice to see you!" HE plops himself down next to her.
"All honesty, I didn't really believe in the Andoran ideal until a few months ago. I was a slave for almost a year back home, and rebelled in much more of the style of Galt than Andoran. Same sorta thing happened with religion. Eagle Knights gave me an answer to both. That and the fact that Azata was cute, and there was no way I was gonna achieve Nirvana otherwise."
Roland Cross
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Maldris. *spits* Never liked the man.
One murder mission too many and I stopped trusting him completely. This ain't slavers I'm talking about either. I am a Pathfinder, not an assassin. Nowadays I pretty much avoid doing anything he asks just on principle.
You all decide you want to do more than just talk, then you come find me.
Colsоn Maldris
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A nondescript half-elf, well disguised as Colson Maldris, enters and speaks.
Defenders of Freedom,
Far from it for me to request that you stop considering these matters, let me assure you that the Eagle Knight's activities are fully legal and sanctioned by legislation issued by the People's Council. They provide oversight and have renewed our mandate for action every year.
I would suggest you bring your concerns up with your local councilor. Should such a decision be made, I will of course stand aside for another loyal commander to take my place.
Questioning unjust rule is the duty of every citizen, but remember that it should be clear to all that the democratic tide requires coordination, and that you may not all be seeing the big picture.
Remain vigilant and committed,
Major Colson Maldris.
Corvus Cailean
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tosses the bottle of bourbon to the "major"
Its a simple question. Did ya order the guy killed because he needed killin or because you wanted his beak shut for good? If you're hidin from that question behind layers of bureaucracy you can just sashay out that door behind mr fancypants there, cause we AIN"T the chelaxians and don't need to wait for some pantywaist government to sign a pretty piece of paper to tell us who to follow.
Ewan Lutress
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Stealth: 120 + 15 + 3927 = 4062
A halfling sitting on the railing of the stairs speaks up. It's not clear where he came from or how long he's been sitting there.
"I thought I would chime in.
Corvus, it seems that we have much in common. We should get a drink together sometime."
He addresses the whole room, but mostly directed at Colson.
"I really don't care what transgressions you've supposedly done, Major. Every single person has done something they've regretted. Some of them can be quite terrible for some of us, and if we don't admit how imperfect we are, then we are lying to ourselves and everyone around us. Being a courageous leader usually entails buckets of testosterone and that's going to lead to screwing sooner or later. As long as slaves are being freed and we are accomplishing the greater good, bad things can happen now and then. I think people are right to want someone to fess up to their bad deeds instead of covering them up, but I don't claim to understand politics, so it might have been necessary; I don't know. You seem to be doing a fine job to me. I don't think it's fair to judge for the sketchy missions you've assigned here and there and ignore all the good."
He takes out some wine and a tankard sized for a medium creature, and fills it up. He says a blessing to Cayden Cailien and and chugs about half of it.
Samuel Revell
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'There is no need to step aside , Sir.
'As an eagle knight myself, I understand that each and every time we are asked to do something by you, you have weighed up the consequences of asking us.'
'As for you Nesod, Cheliax still lays claim to Andoran and Taldor still lays claim to both Andoran and Cheliax. If we were not ..fiercely independent both nations would have attempted to roll over us at some point. I understand more than most being from Galt that the price of freedom to to be eternally.. fierce. '
Ewan Lutress
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Ewan looks up from his mug.
"Wait, did you say fully legal? HA! What about the Twilight talons? Are what they're doing fully legal and sanctioned? I know as a formal representative of Andoran "fully legal and sanctioned" is what you're supposed to say, but you're talking to a room full of Andoran Pathfinders. We do your personal missions for you, and as Jaleel is saying, we know they aren't always pretty. So, no B.S. please."
Broderick the Butcher
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A large man in a mask and with his hood up has been leaning against the wall the whole night. He has his arms crossed and his head down. He hasn't said a word the whole time.
He raises his head an clears his throat. He speaks slowly. He seems to be having trouble putting his thoughts into words.
"Jaleel. You received a mission. You did the mission." ... "You chose that action. If you did not want to, no one made you." ... "It is on your shoulders." ...
"I was in the Taldor faction. I am not now." ... "I received a mission. The mission was: 'Broderick, you will be beaten by thugs. You will submit to them.'" ... I said: 'No.'" ... "I love my country... but... I will not submit myself... because some noble asked me to." ... "It is your own choice."
He did not gain the prestige point from that mission. Yeah, losing prestige points sucks, but what's more important to you, the prestige points, or playing your character?
Broderick the Butcher
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Prestige is finite. Always go with the prestige. ;P
I have no problem giving up a single prestige point if it meant getting more in touch with my character. During that scenario, I was thinking; "Would my incredibly proud fighter submit himself to humiliating defeat just because someone ordered him to?... No, he wouldn't." We shouldn't be so caught up in numbers and rewards that we forget that this is a role-playing game.
(My opinion.)
Jaleel Livianna
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I originally wasn't going to kill the guy at all. The blackmailer was typicially written as the main boss at the end of the mod, and the main boss was doing his level best to kill us. If the blackmailer was a "side mission", I would have told the Major where to shove this particular mission and joined another faction. I've given up prestige before. You should see some of the ohter faction's nast missions.
My all time favorite..."Set a fire and see that the blame falls on another faction. Don't get caught." I REFUSED. This was a blatantly dangerous and evil mission. There should ahve been alignment hits for everyone that completed this mission.
Amedeo Lanatus
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0.o
I just did a faction mission that essentially made me torture something before killing it! I'll be Ragathiel-damned before I do something like that again!
A young man enters. His flawless skin, white hair, white eyes, and white halo, leave little doubt to his angelic heritage. Equally obvious is his alliance, with the black clothes and red cloak he favors, as well as the prominently worn unholy symbol of the Prince of Darkness.
Your obedience to the orders of your superior is commendable. Why would you not willingly follow his instructions in the future?
By the way, your door appears to be broken.
Amedeo Lanatus
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Amedeo Lanatus wrote:
By the way, your door appears to be broken.
The crow easily lifts the door off the ground and places it horizontal over two chairs, then sets a pitcher and a few dingy glasses on top.
"Not broken. Just re-purposed. We have a strict open door policy here... obviously"
So I see.
Still, I am puzzled.
Major Maldris's capable leadership of Andoran's agents has brought your cause unequaled success. Yet, now your talk of a leadership change would seem more fitting to a group that had suffered numerous setbacks.
Corvus Cailean
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Major Maldris's capable leadership of Andoran's agents has brought your cause unequaled success. Yet, now your talk of a leadership change would seem more fitting to a group that had suffered numerous setbacks.
Cause gettin' the job done ain't enough. You gotta do it without becoming the very pox ridden soul sucking font of evil you're fighting.
I don't KNOW if he's crossed that line yet, but thats what I'm askin.
Amedeo Lanatus
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Cause gettin' the job done ain't enough. You gotta do it without becoming the very pox ridden soul sucking font of evil you're fighting.
I don't KNOW if he's crossed that line yet, but thats what I'm askin.
I understand.
Though I do seem to have forgotten my manners. Allow me to introduce myself.
I am Amedeo Lanatus, an Acolyte in the Church of the Lord of Law.
increddibelly
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WE NEED A CHANGE IN ANDORAN LEADERSHIP
Patience, dear, we're already working on it...
The fall of Andoran, part 1
Amedeo Lanatus
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Jaleel Livianna wrote:WE NEED A CHANGE IN ANDORAN LEADERSHIPPatience, dear, we're already working on it...
There is very little need to be provocative, especially toward a group that has enjoyed so much success under the strong leadership that they have enjoyed.
I only came here to introduce myself to the disparate groups of Pathfinders; but, I was dismayed at the argument going on here. If any group has reason to be happy of their leadership, it is Andoran.
Jaleel Livianna
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As a KNIGHT CAPTAIN of the Eagle Watch, I am very happy with the results of Andoran leadership. It is our government appointed representative that I am currently unhappy with.
Amedeo, would you be happier if someone other than Zarta Dralneen was YOUR represnetative? Your government MUST have wanted her gone for a reason.
Why DID the Decemvirate want Zarta back in power?
Dirk Curlyfoot
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Don't hate Zarta. She was very generous with her rewards for being rescued and extremely grateful. She's quite the woman.
I'm willing to bet that Zarta knows quite a few secrets that the Decemvirate didn't want the Chelaxian government to know. Hence, the rescue mission.
And Zarta and I are definitely on a first name basis. She was extremely grateful, after all.
Amedeo Lanatus
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As a KNIGHT CAPTAIN of the Eagle Watch, I am very happy with the results of Andoran leadership. It is our government appointed representative that I am currently unhappy with.
Amedeo, would you be happier if someone other than Zarta Dralneen was YOUR representative? Your government MUST have wanted her gone for a reason.
Why DID the Decemvirate want Zarta back in power?
I do not concern myself with such things. I am duty bound to obey whoever Her Infernal Magestrix sees fit to appoint.
Whoever wants Paracountess Dralneen removed from her position, it is not the Queen. We all serve a the pleasure of Queen Abrogail II, she needs no "excuse" to reassign our duties; she has no need for complex shadow games.
As to why the Decemvirate chose to become involved, perhaps merely a desire to avoid seeing someone treated unfairly.
As to the other issue, are not the results you are very happy with a direct result of Major Maldris's capable stewardship?
Jaleel Livianna
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I'd be much happier if slavery was at least banned in Absalom.
Major Maldris is just a face passing down the orders. So far, I'd have to admit that I'm happy with the results.
If Major Maldris were sent back into the field, he may learn new insights into the results of his orders. He should get out from behind his desk and mingle with the common adventureres, learn of our complaints against him, and perhaps change his ways before he starts to get soft.
Amedeo Lanatus
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I'd be much happier if slavery was at least banned in Absalom.
Major Maldris is just a face passing down the orders. So far, I'd have to admit that I'm happy with the results.
If Major Maldris were sent back into the field, he may learn new insights into the results of his orders. He should get out from behind his desk and mingle with the common adventurers, learn of our complaints against him, and perhaps change his ways before he starts to get soft.
But, if Major Maldris is merely a "face passing down the orders," does it matter if he "starts to get soft?"
If he is but a link in a chain, then they are not "his orders" but come from your People's Council. Why do you have complains against him at all?
Sarivan Endrini
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Brothers and Sisters in Freedom:
The major offers us numerous opportunities to set free those oppressed by others, and he does so in ways that, perhaps, we may not understand. The greatest offering, however, lies in our freedom to choose to accept his request or not. He does not command us, nor does he dictate acceptance of his request. We are free to choose, and that certainly is worth of this noble faction. If you feel that what he asks is unworthy of, or beneath, a member of this faction, then you simply only must refuse to accept it. To suggest that we change leaders because you may not like the choices he offers is more a reflection of your failure to choose your own path and to blindly accept what is placed before you. Blind servitude is not a characteristic of Andoran, nor should it ever be.
If you desire a change in leadership, that is your prerogative, but it is not one that I will support. You choose the path you walk, and I will do the same.
For me, the major is more than a capable leader, and one worthy of our best efforts.
In Liberty.
Jaleel Livianna
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If we want Major Maldris out, to whom would we go to in Andoran to petition for his replacement?
Who would be crazy enough to even WANT his job?
At this point, with no word from Maj. Colson and much inaction from our home government, I would settle for a public apology from the Major and a reprimand in his service jacket.
Amedeo Lanatus
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If we want Major Maldris out, to whom would we go to in Andoran to petition for his replacement?
Who would be crazy enough to even WANT his job?
At this point, with no word from Maj. Colson and much inaction from our home government, I would settle for a public apology from the Major and a reprimand in his service jacket.
I don't foresee this. Major Maldris has the most important qualification for keeping his job and record intact - success.
Galindar Arendale
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Jaleel Livianna wrote:If we want Major Maldris out, to whom would we go to in Andoran to petition for his replacement?
Who would be crazy enough to even WANT his job?
At this point, with no word from Maj. Colson and much inaction from our home government, I would settle for a public apology from the Major and a reprimand in his service jacket.
I don't foresee this. Major Maldris has the most important qualification for keeping his job and record intact - success.
Agreed, my good fellow. Perhaps some, um, apology is in order. And, to improve the good Major's "public image", perhaps it's high time we saw him properly married. I'm sure any number of young women would be happy to become Mrs. Coulson.
The only question is to whom should we counsel our dear Major to marry? One with both romantic and political benefits would be an ideal match. Any ideas, chaps?
Sarivan Endrini
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Why do we care if the major is married or not? Certainly an adult can determine whether or not he wishes to marry. I thought being a part of this faction demonstrated a commitment to freedom and to liberty, to the free exercise of thought and one's own convictions.
Why must we be concerned with his marital status or his alleged indiscretions? So long as he leads us in a way that promotes liberty and freedom for others, it matters not to me.
Can we not, instead, focus on what really matters and not this distraction?
In Liberty.
Samuel Revell
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Jaleel : If asked I would consider taking on the position. Whilst I am not Andoran, I fully believe in the right of individual freedom for all. I am a seasoned pathfinder who has seen action in Irrisen, Varisia, Geb and other locales. Whilst I am from Galt, I feel I share the same ideals as any Andoran and is my desire that one day Galt finds it's centre and the stability that Andoran shows can exist.
It would be an honor to be the liaison between the People's council and the Pathfinder society. Until Major Colson Maldris decides to step down he continues to garner my full support.
Knight Captain Samuel Revell