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Paizo Employee Community & Digital Content Director

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If you've purchased a hardcover PDF of a Pathfinder product, you may have gotten an email about a new download option. As of today, the PDFs for Paizo's Pathfinder Roleplaying Game hardcovers and the Inner Sea World Guide have been updated to include a more screen friendly Lite download option.

What are the differences?

The Lite versions of the PDF have been exported with compressed and simplified page backgrounds that still resonate with the branding used in all Pathfinder products. They've also had minor tweaks to their export options that make them more friendly to use on lower end machines and on tablets or phones.

The non-Lite versions of the PDF best represent their printed counterparts. They use the fully built backgrounds used in the print versions which contain higher quality background artwork and rendering.

The following products now have this download option available:

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Core Rulebook (OGL)
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary (OGL)
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: GameMastery Guide (OGL)
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Advanced Players Guide (OGL)
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 2 (OGL)
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Ultimate Magic (OGL)
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Ultimate Combat (OGL)
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 3 (OGL)
Pathfinder Campaign Setting: The Inner Sea World Guide (PFRPG)

Going forward, PDFs of hardcover products will have both a normal PDF download and a Lite PDF download. They will continue to be available in One File per Chapter and Single File formats.

Please use this thread to report any issues or ask questions about the Lite PDFs.

Contributor

HUZZAH!

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Words cannot describe the happiness!

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber

Thanks Liz for clueing me in, it didnt even take a clue bat!

Going to grab the book to look at it on a kindle when I get home.


Sweet now to import them all to my phone before work.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

The Core book is looking pretty great and running smoothly on my laptop. Thanks for doing this guys!

Dark Archive RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32

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Sweet deal! I think I might just store my entire collection on my Nook!


Thank you. This is what I really, really wanted.

Regards,
Ruemere

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Well played. This'll be great for use on my iPad.

Sczarni RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Yay! You made my crapbook very happy.


I don't know what dark magic you worked on my core rulebook, but my laptop just got upgraded to "in-game reference." Thanks!

Dark Archive

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Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I weep for the download server tonight and this weekend. Poor, poor download server.

Welp, time to go do my share of damage to it!

Paizo Employee Community & Digital Content Director

Updated the original post to clarify the differences between the download options.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Well, as I feared, the poor server is overloaded, but I did manage to get Bestiary 3 Lite, and a thought hit me almost immediately: what about switching future actual print versions to the "Lite" edition? MASSIVE improvement in readability, for a minuscule reduction in physical appearance quality, if you ask me.

Even on my beast of a new system (i7-2600k, 16 GB RAM, 180 GB SSD), the Bestiary PDFs were slow to load, now I can scroll through it as fast as my mouse wheel will permit. Shocking amount of improvement here, folks.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I am amused that the lite single file version of the APG is 104 MB, whereas the previous non-lite single file version was 50.9 MB. The GMG lite is 145 MB, vs 70.7 MB before.

The core rules actually shrunk, though (49.7 MB now, 66.6 MB before). I haven't checked the rest yet.

Edit: the APG does render faster, though. Bigger size, faster display.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Nice. I have what I need on my Kindle Fire already but I may just go ahead & change what I need with the lite versions for ReaperCon.

Thanks for the option

RM


EXCELLENT! Kudos.


coyote6 wrote:

I am amused that the lite single file version of the APG is 104 MB, whereas the previous non-lite single file version was 50.9 MB. The GMG lite is 145 MB, vs 70.7 MB before.

The core rules actually shrunk, though (49.7 MB now, 66.6 MB before). I haven't checked the rest yet.

Edit: the APG does render faster, though. Bigger size, faster display.

Raster graphics are typically larger than vector graphics, but much easier (read: faster) to render (though I'm far from an expert)


Kvantum wrote:

Well, as I feared, the poor server is overloaded, but I did manage to get Bestiary 3 Lite, and a thought hit me almost immediately: what about switching future actual print versions to the "Lite" edition? MASSIVE improvement in readability, for a minuscule reduction in physical appearance quality, if you ask me.

Even on my beast of a new system (i7-2600k, 16 GB RAM, 180 GB SSD), the Bestiary PDFs were slow to load, now I can scroll through it as fast as my mouse wheel will permit. Shocking amount of improvement here, folks.

Wow, that' s a nice system! Maybe it's time to upgrade...


I love you guys.


Great news! Can't wait to try them out on the iPad!


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Can't wait to check this out. Thank you! I think my iPad just shed a tear of joy.


Might resurrect my iPod Touch.

Grand Lodge

I'll be interested in seeing these on my A500. I had no issue with the originals, so if these run better, well then it should run near perfect.

Paizo Employee Community & Digital Content Director

harmor wrote:
Might resurrect my iPod Touch.

The iPod Touch handles these beautifully! I had been trying them out on mine during testing and they're pretty fast :)

Liberty's Edge

BEST. THING. EVER!

Thank you, Paizo!!!


I just downloaded one of these supposedly lite downloads. They are still terrible, giant, and slow. I won't buy another thing from you until you start offering a version that puts function ahead of form.

I will say they are significantly faster than the original terrible PDFs but not enough.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

I've only had the chance to compare the speed of the Core Rulebook so far but the lite file is much faster on my iPad 2. Kudos to Paizo!


Thank you, thank you, thank you! The originals were unusable on my iPad because they were so slow. I just popped the new Core-lite PDF open, and it is much faster!

Liberty's Edge

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Cabezone wrote:

I just downloaded one of these supposedly lite downloads. They are still terrible, giant, and slow. I won't buy another thing from you until you start offering a version that puts function ahead of form.

I will say they are significantly faster than the original terrible PDFs but not enough.

Classy ...

Silver Crusade

Cabezone wrote:

I just downloaded one of these supposedly lite downloads. They are still terrible, giant, and slow. I won't buy another thing from you until you start offering a version that puts function ahead of form.

I will say they are significantly faster than the original terrible PDFs but not enough.

Work great on the iPad and that's col with me.

iPad just became the convention goers must have.

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber

So, downloaded APG, UM, and UC. Is there a reason that the APG file was almost twice the size of the non-lite version? I thought this was really odd. The other two were almost half the size, but the APG was 104 mb, while the normal file is 59 mb.

EDIT: Downloading ISWG-lite now, and its over 100mb more than the normal file as well. Anyone else see this as counter to what it should be? :/

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber

Oh, other than the file size, the files work great on my wife's Nook Color. Much better than the originals did. Thanks.

Shadow Lodge

I also have a Nook Colour and the Lite files load up quickly and I can easily flip through the pages to find what I am looking for without any delay. Thank you!

~FV~

Liberty's Edge

Eric Clingenpeel wrote:

So, downloaded APG, UM, and UC. Is there a reason that the APG file was almost twice the size of the non-lite version? I thought this was really odd. The other two were almost half the size, but the APG was 104 mb, while the normal file is 59 mb.

EDIT: Downloading ISWG-lite now, and its over 100mb more than the normal file as well. Anyone else see this as counter to what it should be? :/

Not necessarily. Image rendering speed is not directly proportional to the size of the image, due to the various available methods of rasterizing (if necessary) and compressing such files. A bigger image may load more quickly than a smaller image, as a result.

Paizo Employee Community & Digital Content Director

Eric Clingenpeel wrote:

So, downloaded APG, UM, and UC. Is there a reason that the APG file was almost twice the size of the non-lite version? I thought this was really odd. The other two were almost half the size, but the APG was 104 mb, while the normal file is 59 mb.

EDIT: Downloading ISWG-lite now, and its over 100mb more than the normal file as well. Anyone else see this as counter to what it should be? :/

There may something fishy going on. I'll do a double check on monday when we're back at the office. If there's anything else you encounter, please post to this thread.

Liberty's Edge

I am not worthy!
Cann't wait to see how they perform on my iPad and kendle.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Tales Subscriber

My iPad is with the kids - so checking it out will have to wait. But thanks a lot in advance.

Thod


Just tested the APG on my phone (Samsung Galaxy S), and it handled beautifully. :-)

Scarab Sages

Marc Radle wrote:
Cabezone wrote:

I just downloaded one of these supposedly lite downloads. They are still terrible, giant, and slow. I won't buy another thing from you until you start offering a version that puts function ahead of form.

I will say they are significantly faster than the original terrible PDFs but not enough.

Classy ...

Yep. There's always gonna be one. ... "that guy".

I guess we ought to mention Rule No. 1 of PFS: DBAJ.
I can't *wait* to get these on my iPad and iPod Touch. These are gonna be mandatory for game days!
Bravo, Paizo. Bra-vo.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber

Just tested the Core. WOW. I haven't thrown it on any of my portable devices yet but the difference on my desktop (quad-core i5) is huge. I expect I'll shift to using the Lite PDFs for all my prep work.

Thanks!

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Cards, Companion, Maps, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

A very welcome surprise. I downloaded the new files to my iPad last night and the page load times are much, much improved. This is the sort of thing that keeps me a loyal Paizo customer.

Really, this is worthy of a Blog entry.

Liberty's Edge

I mentioned this in another thread, but it appears as though this one would be more proper: all but the GMG and IWSG download and open fine on my iPad. The other two are over 100 MB and will not open/download.

For the record, and to counter what "that guy" said, the lite versions are considerably and noticeably faster than before! Thanks for the awesomeness!


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I'm relatively new to Pathfinder and mostly lurk on these forums. I specifically logged into my account today after receiving the "Rulebooks Lite" notification email to say THANK YOU to the team at Paizo for drastically increasing the value of my purchase of the PDFs, encouraging me to purchase more of the books I'm missing in my collection.

Thanks again for considering your customers' needs and improving your product so significantly even after my transaction with you had completed months ago. Paizo has proven itself time and time again to be a firm worth supporting.


Marius Johansen wrote:
Just tested the APG on my phone (Samsung Galaxy S), and it handled beautifully. :-)

Just tested on my iPhone 4S and speedy peezy.


I was thinking about buying an ereader (Kindle and/or Nook) I was wondering how is the viewing look on a six (6) inch screen?


This is an amazing service. I've become something of an iPad since Christmas. It's so much faster looking through my PDFs now.
I <3 Paizo
Go Go Golem!


Is there any youtube vids showing the difference? Also can you purchase a lite pdf without the regular pdf version? I already have most of the regular pdf's.

Its too bad you can't get a bundle deal with the pdfs

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber

If you have the hardback pdf's already, you get the lite for free.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Works perfect on my Kindle Fire.

thanks!
RM

Prob thou, the Bestiaries are too big for a "wi-fi Send to" thou, ha ha (50MB limit), oh well just connect by USB...

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